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lol.gif posted on 5-17-2007 at 11:33 AM
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[*] posted on 5-17-2007 at 06:01 PM


Old Hippie........Just who is this man??... a certain Mr. Steve Games-CEO of Prudential California Reality....... claiming that "Loreto Bay" is the best real estate deal in Mexico today. This sounds about as bogus as it gets....... maybe he is just another snake oil majician. ++C++
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[*] posted on 5-18-2007 at 06:29 AM


When you go to their website and click the mexico button in the left nav you get this reassuring message:

"You Are Leaving PrudentialCal.com
By clicking Continue , you will be leaving the Prudential California Realty site. The websites you are being directed to may offer a different privacy policy and a lower level of security than available on PrudentialCal.com. Prudential California Realty is not responsible for and does not endorse, guarantee or monitor the content, availability, viewpoints, products or services that are offered or expressed on other sites.

You are requesting information on property in Mexico."

I like that last sentence. It should have been preceded with:

WARNING YOU FOOL!

http://www.prudentialcal.com/Content/Content.aspx?CategoryID...

Mr. Games and his wife Sandy are La Jolla elitists. The following page takes a while to load, it's not coded correctly.

http://www.sandiego-mls.com/Prudential-California-Realty.htm

I bet Sandy would not be caught dead in Loreto. At least not until the new shopping center is completed.

This guy is just another 6 percenter who probably is in "partnership" with LB. A paid hypster.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2007 at 07:04 AM


Old Hippie......Thanks for the help.....I was not having any success diging into this company. I can see they are shuffeling around alot of info. and making claims that are not relevent or true. He is just another insider puppet with his greedy little hand out looking for a free ride, exactly like a Mexican politician, and could care less about the workers or the environment or the historic significance and the people of Loreto. Too bad.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2007 at 07:46 AM


Maybe we're being too hasty in our decisions about the labor report. Do they need a library? English and Spanish? Money management seminars maybe -- investment advisors? How about some R & R after all that hard labor. Pilates classes or hookers? Mota or latte? Mariachis or Muzac? Right now they need lockers, blankets, towels, new clothes and more privacy. There were labor strikes that slowed down many of the pyramids in Egypt for lack of sanitary facilities. I hope the contractors remember that these hardworking lads aren't walking to work from their happy homes -- they are dispossesed of everything they ever knew -- a long way from home and loved one. They don't need the services of socialogists, they need a little help from somebody in the LB company who care about the Mexican people -- their report says they care.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2007 at 09:01 AM


They need a rec center; a pool; a patio with a view; some place where they don't have to drive a car - close enough so they could walk to work. Hey, I know just the place - how about the Villages of Loreto Bay? Someone should go over to the camps and tell them about the rental opportunity.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2007 at 12:55 PM


Oldhippie

I sent an email to Mr. Games and found out both he and his partner are Loreto ghetto owners !!! Why am I not surprised. I deleted the answering email without thinking, i should have posted it here. The basic message was that Loreto Bay was a wonderful thing for loreto and with time and millions of dollars, fishing, the environment and the quality of life will all be improved by this WONDERFUL development. Sigh
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 08:32 AM


Poor Kyla. Somebody should clue her in that landscaping is a well known trade in Mexico. And the local landscapers from Santa Rosalia to La Paz are probably very aware what plants do well in that climate. In fact I think I know - cactus.

Freaking marooons building a golf course in a desert. Especially when what water there is isn't enough for what's there now. What a waste.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 09:54 AM


how much water does a golf course require?

UC Riverside Study - golf course water use = 615 acre feet per year in Tuscon

http://ucrturf.ucr.edu/topics/trends_in_golf_course_water_us...

1 acre foot = 325,851 gallons

http://www.western-water.com/Acre-Foot_formula.htm

therefore 615 * 325,851 = 200,398,365 gallons

so 200 million gallons a year in Tucson

draw your own conclusions

astro turf and silk plants?
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 11:49 AM


guess all the golf courses in phenix, tucon, yuma should all be abandoned ?? that water was going to mexico before??
but if they were abandon non of these citys could exist because there watered from the effluent from the sewer plants aireation is part of the system there is no way that this amout of effluent could be relesed into the rivers system or disposed of

i expect that the LB course will be watered by effluent too
golf course are not to just play golf on anymore




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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 11:52 AM
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 12:48 PM


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golf course are not to just play golf on anymore


That is one of the most rediculous arguments in favor of building desert coast greens I've ever seen. :lol:

Say, anyone for a game of croquet? Lawn bowling?

I think I understand Jerry. You are implying that golf courses are built to mediate effluents.

I would suggest they are built to deal with affluence. First.




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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 03:18 PM


Sharks, wanna join our lawn dart league??? Loreto Ghetto will make a fine spot to play.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 04:10 PM


Jerry,

Let's see you're going to pump the effluent to the gulf course using electricity generated by wind mills on the other side of the peninsula after the stinky stuff is mixed with water coming from the desalination plant.

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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 04:17 PM


Also Jerry, the mighty Colorado waters many if not most golf courses in the American southwest desert. Does the Colorado River have a river mouth anymore, or is all used up before it leaves the continent?

There ain't no water in Loreto.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2007 at 11:11 PM


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That is one of the most rediculous arguments in favor of building desert coast greens I've ever seen. :lol:

Say, anyone for a game of croquet? Lawn bowling?

I think I understand Jerry. You are implying that golf courses are built to mediate effluents.

I would suggest they are built to deal with affluence. First.


I have an old friend, David Brancaccio (host of NOW on public TV) .... I met David when he was host of NPR's "Marketplace" syndicated radio program, and he was on a sabbatical writing his first book "Squandering Aimlessly"... anyway David interviewed me in Seattle (some fun pages about our meeting and discoveries), and we became friends.... oh yes, back to my point....

David coined a great phrase "Affluenza" a disease that impacts those "burdoned" with too much money.

This discussion about Golf Cour$e$ in the desert for those affluent people contributing to and partaking in lavish consumption (come hell or LOW water) ~ like little Loreto, hyped in LBC's slick literature, being robbed of its water ~ siphoned off via that recurring mix of money and politics ~ to supply an "authentic Mexican village" .... and it all just sounds like Affluenza to me.... or would that be effluenza?

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[*] posted on 5-20-2007 at 01:14 AM
Fore.....


I believe it's both. TIME TO SHORTEN THE FAIRWAYS!:P

Really you guys, does it seem odd to you for folks to haul clubs around Baja? Get a grip. Look at Hawaiis' coastline, don't we/you/they wanna be just like that??

Idea!:light:

Ask a Maui, Kona or Kauai local what and how they feel about all those (foriegn owned) greens that line so many shores. Many locations have ample supplies of water but that does not make them a good thing.
They will tell you why. It has to do with culture and subsistence and a way of life. One generally based and lived in or near the sea. When this is stolen or bought or whatever, then mis-developed it robs just that much more culture away from the original inhabitants. I doubt many golfers there are of Hawaiian origin. It's pretty much the same in Baja. Take away their coastline, take away a culture? You be the judge.




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[*] posted on 5-20-2007 at 12:21 PM


sharks that be the case you me and every gringo in mexico shout leave and while we are at it we best give our busness that are on the coast (oregon Coast included back to the native people
it isnt gona happen and baja is gona get developed and yes there will be golf courses
what make you think that your fun is any more honerable then someone elses fun perhaps there should be a law prohibiting gringos from building houses close to rivers and back washes in mexico as in muelege??
then theres the boat that the gringos bring down and fish with they should be prohibited too
oh gringos shouldnt fish at all it hurts the locals catch
the local should be left alone to fish and eat there catch not to progress
im not even a golfer and would prefer that LB didnt exist but i think the holyer then thou attatude people. should be looking at them selves when pointing fingers
the i got mine screw you people speak with a forked tounges




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[*] posted on 5-20-2007 at 12:30 PM


jerry! It's only 12:30 down your way, but it's 5:00 towards the east somewhere.:?:
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[*] posted on 5-20-2007 at 12:37 PM


Jerry:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: I think that you are about to be:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
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