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So I think it’s fair to say that we both built our own houses. This was our 4th from scratch house BTW.
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No, I don't think it's fair to say we built our own houses, when we had crews of workers for months on end. We did "some" of the work ourselves.
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Like the definition of “indoctrinate” and the use of exclamation points it will be something else we don’t agree on. Go figure!
I did the design and carpentry of some of the furniture as well.
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | S,
Like the definition of “indoctrinate” and the use of exclamation points it will be something else we don’t agree on. Go figure!
I did the design and carpentry of some of the furniture as well.
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RFClark
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Thanks, but I didn’t build it because someone helped me. Someone hasn’t read the definition of owner builder.
https://www.thespruce.com/building-your-own-house-1821301
Many states do allow homeowners to act as a contractor for their own home. With this arrangement, you become what is frequently termed an
owner-builder. In order to contract out for a large-scale project such as a house (rather than an outbuilding or small, lower-cost building), you need
to apply for an owner-builder exemption and to sign the building permit application.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | T,
Thanks, but I didn’t build it because someone helped me. Someone hasn’t read the definition of owner builder.
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I wonder if all the guys who worked away day after day for months building your house would characterize what they did as "helping" you.
And American building code terms are not universal definitions.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | S,
So I think it’s fair to say that we both built our own houses. This was our 4th from scratch house BTW. |
The bones of your house are shipping crates built in China.
So it is correct to say chinese built >50% of your house! 
Built in china, assembly and finish work in mexico!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Goat,
By value the containers represent about 20% of the cost. The locally manufactured components were the largest percentage of the cost.
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gunkid,
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surabi
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Gnu- neither I nor Goat offered RFC building advice. Try reading what's actually written.
And I didn't learn my construction skills "on the interwebs", I learned through other people with those skills, hands-on, and by doing that work
myself for many years.
And since you are so unaware, experienced builders and contractors have online forums where they exchange information about techniques and products
and aren't too full of themselves to ask for construction advice.
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G&S,
Talk is cheap! I’ve shown you mine! Let’s see yours or back under your respective rocks!
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | Gnu- neither I nor Goat offered RFC building advice. Try reading what's actually written.
And I didn't learn my construction skills "on the interwebs", I learned through other people with those skills, hands-on, and by doing that work
myself for many years.
And since you are so unaware, experienced builders and contractors have online forums where they exchange information about techniques and products
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Generally speaking there is a crisis of lack of experience and willingness to learn construction techniques in Baja, which results in failures in
foundations, floors, ceilings, and especially openings for doors and windows, plumbing and electrical. While, people with experience as contractors
and owner builders from USA or other places where codes and licenses exist, have experience and willingness to learn and adapt to soil conditions,
temperatures, architectural style and go the distance to ensure a house is well built, solid and that plumbing and electrical are safe and
functioning. This is construction skill crisis today, there is no other route than owner builder or find the very few capable builders that exist
here.
Let's be clear, Surabi and Goat are not qualified to build a home or critique, nor think critically about health and covid vaccines, yet here they
are... interjecting, again.
[Edited on 9-20-2023 by gnukid]
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So gnukid somehow knows what people he doesn't know are qualified for. Okay then. I guess I just imagined that I bought a lot 20 years ago, designed
my house, oversaw the construction, laid every tile myself, and built a rock shower surround. I guess I also imagined that I have lived in said house
for 18 years, that everything works just fine, and that everyone who visits and stays here compliments the design. Good thing gnukid is here to to set
me straight.
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RFClark
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Great, talk is cheap. Lets see the pictures! You built a house a long time ago. You are to be commended if that’s true. Not many people would be
successful or even try. That doesn’t make you an expert. House design and construction have changed along with the complexity of the systems houses
require to make them as green as possible. Green because it saves a lot of money if done correctly. It also makes you more self-sufficient.
I don’t consider myself any more then a hobbyist when it comes to building, even after building 4 homes from scratch.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Let's be clear, Surabi and Goat are not qualified to build a home or critique, nor think critically about health and covid vaccines, yet here they
are... interjecting, again.
[Edited on 9-20-2023 by gnukid] |
Let’s revist some of oldkid’s post about health and covid
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | S,
Great, talk is cheap. Lets see the pictures! You built a house a long time ago. You are to be commended if that’s true. Not many people would be
successful or even try. That doesn’t make you an expert. House design and construction have changed along with the complexity of the systems houses
require to make them as green as possible. Green because it saves a lot of money if done correctly. It also makes you more self-sufficient.
I don’t consider myself any more then a hobbyist when it comes to building, even after building 4 homes from scratch. |
More mansplaining. I guess you just can't help it, you must believe that women need to have everything explained to them as if they know nothing and
in the language you would use with a kindergartner.
I never once claimed to be a construction "expert". Being qualified to undertake something doesn't mean one considers themselves an expert.
And considering that I have the lowest utility bills of anyone I know, you can save your "green" lecture for someone else. FYI you said you use 32KWHs
of electricity per day. I use one tenth of that.
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RFClark
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You hide behind a “nom de plum” and take cheap shots at those you disagree with and never in my memory post any pictures of baja. Why would anyone
take you seriously?
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surabi
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Oh, posting pictures of Baja is the criteria for taking someone seriously?
Take cheap shots at those I disagree with? Very telling that you don't say that to those here who "hide behind a nom de plume" that do nothing but
insult others.
So it's obvious that it isn't the nom de plume or "cheap shots" you object to, it's an objection based on the poster's views.
[Edited on 9-20-2023 by surabi]
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Read my posts. I have condemned everyone who takes cheap shots at others. Without regard to who. An “insult” sometimes is in the eye of the
recipient or others reading it. You for example are often insulted to hear why you are wrong!
Your CFE and Hydro bill equates to CO2 generated no mater how small they are. Solar doesn’t no matter how large. Solar used to cook or heat also
reduces propane use as well.
None of which deals with your invisibility!
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[Edited on 9-20-2023 by RFClark]
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L,
So was that designed to keep Cartel drones from dropping grenades on the car like in the Ukraine?
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