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wilderone
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This just makes me ill.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/loretobay/270420249/
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bajabeachbabe
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Nellie's Place
I thought with all this Loreto Bay talk, I would post Nellie's blog link. According to Nellie, there are only two full-time residents of Loreto Bay
at the moment. Nellie and another couple. Nellie owns Baja BOSS and Nellie's Place Bar/Hotel and I truly enjoy reading her weekly blog about living
in Loreto.
She is (literally) invested in the town. I see her as one of the positive outcomes from the Loreto Bay project.
http://whereintheworldisnellie.blogspot.com/
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Don Alley
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But, they have organic veggies!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/loretobay/116446407/
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Sallysouth
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Egads,m y goodness, how much has happened since I was there last,two years ago (three month stay?) in Nopolo.To me it is very sad, but at least I knew
how it was back in the 70's and have my memories to refer to for that good ol feeling of days past. And the organic vegis? Irrigated in the brackish
waters from LB?No thank you, I know what goes into that water!!Don Alley, do you eat those vegis?
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Paula
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Sally,
I have it on good authority he doesn't eat the veggies.
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Don Alley
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It's going to take a lot more than eco-veggies to win me over to Loreto Bay and the dark side.
Like, uh, maybe Chicken McNuggets!
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elizabeth
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I'm busy avoiding work, and a complicated budget projection, so I clicked on the link to Nellie's blog where I found the following piece of mind
boggling (at least to me) information. It seems Nellie is the agent for the condo project at the former Whale's Inn, where you can get a
"10% pre-construction discount off initial Public Release pricing, which will range from $655,000 for a 2-bedroom condominium to $1,550,000 for a
4-bedroom penthouse..."
What's the current entry level price for Loreto Bay? I was told last month in Loreto that it was $360,000.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elizabeth
I'm busy avoiding work, and a complicated budget projection, so I clicked on the link to Nellie's blog where I found the following piece of mind
boggling (at least to me) information. It seems Nellie is the agent for the condo project at the former Whale's Inn, where you can get a
"10% pre-construction discount off initial Public Release pricing, which will range from $655,000 for a 2-bedroom condominium to $1,550,000 for a
4-bedroom penthouse..."
What's the current entry level price for Loreto Bay? I was told last month in Loreto that it was $360,000. |
With that 10% discount, sounds pretty inviting.
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Phil S
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Oh well. I don't see the end to this Nopolo developing. Only the beginning!
Don Alley. I did run into my friend at Loreto Bay, and he said he "couldn't comment" regarding Mr. Wardle!!?? So I guess I won't be getting the
"other side of the story for you". Sorry.
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David K
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Everyone looks pretty happy in Nellie's pictures!
Capt. Mike, how about that Jet from Scottsdale?
Seems to be a millionaires' hangout, this Loreto Bay place!
I would like to try the sushi... Phil, can you get me in? 
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jerry
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david the sushi time place was a block notrh a month a go and the food is very good
looks like the developers are tapping in to the rich and famous
jerry and judi
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flyfishinPam
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I don't make it a point to pick up hitchhikers but maybe I'd like to pick one or two up and hear their stories. Out of touch comes to mind when I
read Nellie's blog. She's a nice lady and running a nice business but does not truly understand the people here, and its the people that make up
Loreto. Also I have a hard time believing the guy who posted and gave the story of the hitch-hiker worker at LB.
Hard to imagine an ex-pat in a beefed up diesel $50K+ truck getting the "true story" from a worker from the mainland. Don't you know that they tell
you what you want to hear? I have "pizza insurance" and no money, speak the language and have itegrated even though I'm a blonde gringa. I'd like to
see if I can get the story out of my own curiosity. Yeah, lots changed in two years in Loreto. I'm really trying to enjoy the simple things like
watching "las botas" (our name for the boot-wearing sardinero) net sardinas off the dock and boats shoving off the beach on a glass calm morning.
Wonder how long it will last. I have received a loud and clear message that I'm not invited to "the club" but that's not what bothers me. What
bothers me is that the Loretanos aren't going to be invited either. They will be bought out, moved away out of eyesight, and bussed in to clean the
toilets and prune the water demanding introduced ornamentals of Loreto Bay and environs.
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Dave
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You knew it, I knew it...
| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
What bothers me is that the Loretanos aren't going to be invited either. They will be bought out, moved away out of eyesight, and bussed in to clean
the toilets and prune the water demanding introduced ornamentals of Loreto Bay and environs. |
Then why didn't the Loretanos know it?
Are they the most gullible people in the world...or ostriches?
This project could not have begun without their approval nor continue without their support.
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jerry
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did the loretanos really have any say in it?? wasnt it decided by fonature a long time ago??
even if they had i dought if it would have changed anything
loreto was a fishing village . when the people who lived there saw the light of the end of fishing as they knew it and were seeing there kids
moving to other places with opertunity and more money was being made.
what choices were there?? stagnate and die or grow with the flow
does anyone really wish the people of loreto would have stoped progress??
if so at what point??when the missonaries came?when the first gringo came with a fishing pole? just after you or i bought our propertys??
jerry and judi
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
did the loretanos really have any say in it?? |
Don't know how it works in Loreto but here in Rosarito building permits are issued by the city.
No permit....No building....No nada. 
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Skipjack Joe
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Progress
The point is that that is NOT progress!
Progress is a relative word. What you see as progress I see as destruction.
The links show a series of images of the land being scraped by bulldozers next to others of pelicans and whale sharks. To me that's absurd and
offensive. The developers on the other hand see them somehow complimenting one another in a wonderful representation of progress.
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jerry
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a small percentage of the development is going on in the city of loreto
i dont think that the citys development is whats being chastized its the surrounding areas
jerry and judi
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
did the loretanos really have any say in it?? |
Don't know how it works in Loreto but here in Rosarito building permits are issued by the city.
No permit....No building....No nada. |
Ah, but from what I've seen, a select few Loretanos have been "invited to the party." Or at least given that impression. I've seen them scmoozing with
development folks in local restaurants. And these are the people with power to approve permits, although I doubt any official in Loreto ever had the
clout to oppose Fonatur by denying building permits.
This is all going to change things. For some, it will be change for the better, for others, change for the worse. Right now, everyone thinks they know
which camp they fall into, but time will prove that many of them are wrong.
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
What bothers me is that the Loretanos aren't going to be invited either. They will be bought out, moved away out of eyesight, and bussed in to clean
the toilets and prune the water demanding introduced ornamentals of Loreto Bay and environs. |
Then why didn't the Loretanos know it?
Are they the most gullible people in the world...or ostriches?
This project could not have begun without their approval nor continue without their support. |
The presidente and the deputados can approve whatever they wish to and grant permits without the backing of the citizens of Loreto. Many locals I've
talked with see their cost of living going through the roof, and the new jobs are not causing an increase in their incomes.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
...does anyone really wish the people of loreto would have stoped progress??
if so at what point??when the missonaries came?when the first gringo came with a fishing pole? just after you or i bought our propertys??
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Yes I am sure that some wish that no development came to Loreto, or anywhere else in Baja for that matter.
But most have to resign to the fact that it is inevitable. What I take exception to re LB is the railroading of environmental concerns. The apparent
lack of longrange planning for the water needs of LB and the city in general.
I see down the road that to accept a solution to the water needs, the probable environmental damage from a poorly planned Desal plant will become
"acceptable". As there will be few alternatives.
I don't see LB and other poorly planned developments (the La Paz develpment mentioned recently) in Baja as anything other than a very sad situation
for all. Including the smiling and happy owners.
Owning property and seeing paper profits, while these develpments push up prices, is no excuse to accept the probable damage to the native population
as well as the sealife that makes Baja so precious.
just my 2 cents
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