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pappy
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a possible twist in this could be the plan of saving salton sea,part of which includes opening up to sea of cortez to accomodate shipping which could
eliminate the need for port at colonet,etc.
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where you get that info? will they dredge the mouth of the colorado all the way upstream? seems kinda fishy, seeing how they can't even keep santa
rosalillita open to yachts, much less cargo ships......
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there are three major proposals in regards to saving the salton sea, eg divide in half, keeping the southern half as game preserve, the northern for
recreation.one includes dredging, canal maybe? ( i don't recall exactly) to open it up to cortez so a thriving shipping industry could exist there,
plus the rail lines are right there already in use...this is all U. S. driven.... of course it's political and $ driven....so who knows what will
happen(if anything).
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I read recently that the Port of Ensenada is expected by the year 2010 to have the capacity to transfer 400,000 containers each year. The goal for
this year(2007) is 155,000 containers. I believe the additional 250,000 containers per year for a total of 400,000 or 1100 containers per day should
suffice and should eliminate the need for Colonet.
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Three times 2007's goal is a drop in the bucket for the projected demand.
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This is not accurate!:
Punta Colonet is a sparsely inhabited inlet on the Mexican coast, about five miles inland from the small village of Colonet. Here, an agricultural
community of about 3,000 consists mostly of ejidos, or communal farms.
Punta Colonet is NOT 'inland' from the village of Colonet!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pappy
there are three major proposals in regards to saving the salton sea, eg divide in half, keeping the southern half as game preserve, the northern for
recreation.one includes dredging, canal maybe? ( i don't recall exactly) to open it up to cortez so a thriving shipping industry could exist there,
plus the rail lines are right there already in use...this is all U. S. driven.... of course it's political and $ driven....so who knows what will
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Pretty funny to see your posts. I had thought of starting a satirical thread about predicted sea level rise and the new Puerto de Palm Springs.
If you look at some of the maps about projected sea level rise. Much of the area between the Sea of Cortez and 29 Palms could be underwater in the
near future. The Salton Sea is already a few hundred feet below sea level.
A little help with some earth moving equipment and So. Cal could have a huge port just south of I-10. We could turn the engineering disaster of the
Salton Sea into a engineering marvel.
The biggest problem with this idea is the need to ships to navigate all the way around the cape. A big delay for any traffic to or from Asia.
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Sea level has not risen in the Gulf of California in the past 40 years because all the places I camped as a kid (on the beach), are still there!
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I've always liked the idea of connecting the Salton Sea to the SOC to keep it from rotting away...but never heard of the shipping port idea...makes
sense if it pencils out cheaper to go around the Cape than using rail from Colonet. would Mexico let us use the right-of-way when it isn't in their
best interest?
Wonder though, they'll have to use locks to control water heights, otherwise Mecca and other low lying areas around the sea could be submerged.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Sea level has not risen in the Gulf of California in the past 40 years because all the places I camped as a kid (on the beach), are still there!
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As they say:
"Past performance is no indication of future performance."
You have heard about the polar ice caps, glaciers, and very large parts of Greenland melting in an accelerating fashion haven't you?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
I've always liked the idea of connecting the Salton Sea to the SOC to keep it from rotting away...but never heard of the shipping port idea...makes
sense if it pencils out cheaper to go around the Cape than using rail from Colonet. would Mexico let us use the right-of-way when it isn't in their
best interest?
Wonder though, they'll have to use locks to control water heights, otherwise Mecca and other low lying areas around the sea could be submerged.
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The cost of digging/dredging required to connect the Salton Sea with the Sea of Cortez would make the cost of the Colonet project look like a kids
allowance. El Centro and the surrounding areas up to Brawley are also below sea level.
For the container ships to travel clear up the Sea of Cortez to some new port - (have to be port facilities built, along the line and size of the
Colonet one) would be expensive. Cheaper for them to wait offshore the LA/Long Beach harbors for a week or two to unload. I'm sure the people at
Loreto would like to see 10-20 containerships passing by each day.
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That's true Lou, it would be expensive! But I was thinking of the economic payback of running a port would help out, plus the probable economic
stimulus to the Salton Sea area would be astounding...just think of all the new "coastal property". And no, the SOC residents wouldn't want to see
container ships going by...although to tell you the truth, growing up in South Orange County we could see the container ships heading to Long Beach,
making their way past the offshore oil rigs of Huntington Beach(with the jets flying overhead to the old El Toro Marine Base!)...didn't do much to
hurt housing values.
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