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Hook
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I will accept the stoning I am about to receive but on the developers website, the land on the bluffs north of the arroyo sure looks like a nice spot
for a house. Build a nice L-shaped house with the back towards the NNW and have blockage from the north winds on your front porch and perfect breezes
from the SE in the summer.
Are all the lots in the arroyo, Perry?
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Skeet/Loreto
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Hook: No stoning. I would buy up on the Bluff at either end of the Airstrip.
There is very little water-At about 7 or 8 feet there is and underground stream near the South Side of the Arroyo- Good water when there are Rains in
the Mountains to the West.
If you do buy and build take some Geese with you and keep them close to the House to warn you when the Rattlers come visiting!
South on the Beach toward Punta Pulpito there is several small but nice beaches.
Of the 38 years I fished and plyed the Waters, that is my very Favorite Place-The People-The Surroundings. The Isla- The Fantastic Fishing and Diving.
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vgabndo
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Hook, I can't say for sure how much Daniel Murillo owned. It may include land on the mesa. That would be my choice. There is also a little flat spot
about mid way up, with an old trace of a road from Fernando's place. You could pump water up from the arroyo. Nice views, but as you say, you'd have
to design around the wind. It is on the bluff at the left center of the attached photo with another road coming in from 2 o'clock. I've always
thought I could live there, but the land wasn't for sale.
Aldo Espino has a little place on the south rim. He's got a low volume high pressure pump that runs off our pila.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Hook
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ASsuming a major rain incident, Perry, would you be cut off from access to Hwy 1 if you were on the bluffs south of the arroyo? On the bluffs north of
the arroyo?
Or are there other major washes that would cut you off on the route in from Hwy 1?
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vgabndo
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Hook
In answer to your question...Yes...
South side you have to wait for the water to go down. Otherwise, if you fly the road on Google Earth, you'll see that it crosses or runs in several
smaller arroyos. After Marti, I got in with an F 250 2WD pulling a boat trailer, but there were some places that were a bit sketchy. There hadn't
been any work other than what the locals had done.
I'm pretty sure that there is no land available on the south mesa; at least not from the developer with the website.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Skeet/Loreto
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Hook: What you have to consider if you do get out of San Nicolas is Hwy 1.
Going North, when you get to the Arroyos near San Carlos it might take a couple of days unless someone has Equipt. to pull you thru. Same at the
Arroyo just South of Sta. Rosalilla.
South if you can get past "Bomdero"{ Which feeds San Nicolas} you can be held up a couple of days getting across the Arroyo just North of Loreto. As
well as Kilometer 28 near San Juan.
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comitan
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Skeet before you give advise on driving HWY 1 you'd better drive it, many changes.
[Edited on 8-25-2007 by comitan]
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Skeet/Loreto
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Cpmitan: Did I miss somethin on my recent Trip?
A bridge over the Deep Arroyo north of Loreto?
Kilometer 28 also North.?
Bombero?
The Dips Near San Carlos?
The Arroyo before Sta Roasillia?
Please let me know as I know I am getting old and my Memory is sometimes Dim.
Vag. Got the Photos.
I do not know much about the old Pool Hall, only that it was there.
When I made my 2nd trip to San Nicolas and started staying there, Enrique Murrillo had several pieces of Fishing and Diving Gear left there by an
Americano. I located the owner who was from Wyoming, Montana area. He was Miner who later wrote a very good book about the Conditions of the Mines
where he had worked.
Is the "Old Road : drivable in a 4 Wheel Jeep?
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comitan
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Many chages but the most notable would be the arroyo south of Santa Rosalia a large curved bridge must be getting close about now.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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vgabndo
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Skeet...the arroyo is MOSTLY drivable, but the big "S" curves just up stream from the "secret" pictographs have a lot of very deep "dune like" sand
hills that could be impossible. A quad might be a better way to make the trip. I've walked it to the point where it climbs out of the arroyo and
neads NW up to where the new road goes through.
Glad you got the photos.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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vgabndo
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I had a chat with the developer...
I e-mailed some questions to the address on the developer's fancy web site. Got a call back after a couple of weeks. In my judgement the web site is
the fanciest part of the whole idea. It is, at this point, just dreams in search of financing. They DO have some land, and they DO have some plans,
but if you had a hundred grand in your hand they couldn't sell you any land.
Sheesh I love illiteration.
I'm a lot less worried after getting the word from the horses mouth. Can you invision a dung salesman with a mouth full of samples?  He couldn't pronounce San Nicolas'.
Here's the control tower staff up on the runway at San Nicolas' International Airport.
[Edited on 10-5-2007 by vgabndo]
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Sharksbaja
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Wow, what a legacy. Gee, now you're part of it.
Thanks for the language primer. "illiteration" I had no clue coming from you why those few continue to mew.
How many people live there Perry. How many non-Mexicans? Which one is the aduana in that airport photo?
[Edited on 10-5-2007 by Sharksbaja]
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Skeet/Loreto
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Perry: Looks like the same Donkeys that Alfreda would scare off before I could land my little Cessna 170 B on that "Very Short} 1200 Ft. Strip.!!
I think it will be many years before there will be any Development, due to the lack of Water, a better Road, and the result of Lorteo Bay Villages
failing will cause a slow down.
San Nicolas is for the Adventuer type of Person, not the Groupies of Todays Culture.
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vgabndo
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Sharks:
No lesson THERE. Illiterate starts with an "I", ALLITERATION begins with an "A". I'm going to claim I have always known that, or that it was a
senior moment, or something.
I do love alliteration, I'm thinking that perhaps illiteration means the crafting of a stupid statement using the wrong words which begin with the
same letter or similar sound!!!
Sheesh...
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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