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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 06:14 AM


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Skeet/Loreto= site pest.:lol:


Yes, skeet thinks he is the high moral ground, what a load of BS :lol:

As to the ship ... the harbor master must have given clearance for the ship to enter .

Also there are several times I have not disembarked at a port as all that was for sale was overpriced junk ...




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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 03:41 PM


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I say "community" but didn't I hear that only monied interests were allowed to sit in on discussions about the future direction of the Marine Park? That no public individuals would be allowed in?

Sounds like it could be business as usual in the heralded Marine Park. Will it become the new fatted calf, now that Loreto Bay is virtually defunct?

[Edited on 5-22-2009 by Hook]


Well I was mis-informed and then corrected during the sport fishing sector meeting. It is open to the public and Don was welcomed and will be next time. (june 10) Between me and Don we could scrape together at least $50 bucks so we've got the money part covered.

No, this time it will be different. It is already different. I could go on for a long time at how different it is now than when the last plans were decided upon. We're using the transparency laws and they're a beautiful thing. I hope that Guaymas, being ready for it, gets all the large cruise ships and resorts and we keep the smaller lower impact eco cruises and resorts. Our infrastructure wouldn't be overburdened and either would our population and its resources.
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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 03:50 PM


Is Mexico embracing Sarbanes Oxley?

If so, that would be a significant shift in the status quo.

And, a great positive guidance plan for the future for the bureaucracy.




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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 04:02 PM


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Is Mexico embracing Sarbanes Oxley?

If so, that would be a significant shift in the status quo.

And, a great positive guidance plan for the future for the bureaucracy.


well since I didn't know what the hell this was I looked it up and found this in Espanol

http://www.gestiopolis.com/canales3/ger/oxley.htm

seems like the answer to your question is yes.

I think it called La ley de transperencia and applies to a wide range of issues political, public and private. Obviously needs some work here :lol: but as far as Marine Park issues here and public hearings its looking pretty impressive.

one thing the Public hearing for the Puerto Escondido project, proposing $1.6 Billion to develop PE. I went to that meeting and it was obvious that Fonatur had no idea what they were up against. Like deer caught in headlights. They are being challenged and have to meet these challenges before they can proceed. Same for the Loreto Riviera Project. this is all new and only being exercised now.

Here's a bit of info for all you Baja lovers... did you know there are already permits approved for over 45 new golf courses in BCS? well there is but they're not built yet and they are being challenged. the people's voice is important they are in charge. we're educating them and our voices are coming together. I think we will have a major decision on how this place develops. AND people in other places will be watching and learning from our example.

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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 04:04 PM


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Someday, someone is going to be injured trying to get on or off a small boat or panga because the docks are closed for the exclusive use of visiting cruise ships.


So who they gonna sue? :rolleyes:


I don't know about private boats mr roll eyes, but we carry insurance. Its a requirement to operate here.

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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 04:32 PM


Pam- As exorcised as you were about this ship, considering it has the world to travel, and very wealthy people aboard, chances are you might see that ship once a year, if ever again. The Holland America itinerary only runs for about four- five months a year, and, although you may feel slighted, the primary destination for that ship is Topolobampo, for a day long excursion into the Copper Canyon. They use Loreto, more as a convenient stop on the way.
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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 04:38 PM


I already looked at their itinerary and through january 2011 it will be busy in other places. I know we may never see it again but I'm wondering what will be next.



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[*] posted on 5-22-2009 at 07:22 PM


it's anchored off the north end of Danzante tonight (May 22) and, yes, it's UGLY. however I'm sure it's lovely inside.



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[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 07:55 AM


My parents went on this ship a few years ago....they got it for free cause my mom was selling one or something. My dad didn't care for it. He said you had to wear a sport coat everywhere and the people were so rich you couldnt really relate to them.
They said teh only cool thing was the units are equiped with a fancy fire system that allows the unit to have a kitchen and then you can buy meals to be cooked in your unit.
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[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 02:38 PM


Just wonder who, that could afford to be aboard, would even know how to cook? Or ever did.
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[*] posted on 5-23-2009 at 02:48 PM


There's nothing to do on these floating hotels except to to eat and poop. You can play shuffle board, dance, play bingo, and dink around with all of the above, but the bottom line is the same.;D
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