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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
ILLEGAL MEXICANS |
Perhaps that should be ammended to, "All things illegal."
Of course, the immigration activists would want to sue somebody for referring to their carnales as "Things."
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MrBillM
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Mendacity not marooonic
The REASON that the Ruling Party wants to promote the idea that an attack on Illegals is an attack on Hispanics is simple politics.
The Dems, and Hussein in particular, have benefited at the polls from the Hispanic vote. B.O. received 67 percent of that group. Knowing that the
Dems are going to lose a significant portion of other Independents from 2008 in November, this is an attempt on their part to stir up base support.
Simple as that. Fear and Anger are always the best motivators.
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DianaT
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Here the thread goes---down, down, down into the sewer.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
The REASON that the Ruling Party wants to promote the idea that an attack on Illegals is an attack on Hispanics is simple politics.
The Dems, and Hussein in particular, have benefited at the polls from the Hispanic vote. B.O. received 67 percent of that group. Knowing that the
Dems are going to lose a significant portion of other Independents from 2008 in November, this is an attempt on their part to stir up base support.
Simple as that. Fear and Anger are always the best motivators. |
 Do illegals vote in the USA? Do Mexicans have any power at the polls? If
they did, how would AZ have passed this new law? Most people who have applied for and entered the USA legally highly resent those who have taken
shortcuts and thumbed their noses at their new host country. So does that make legal aliens conservatives?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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MrBillM
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Actually, No Disagreement There
What polling has been done has consistently shown mostly majority support among the Various Hispanic communities for enforcing the Immigration laws
and that is WHY the Obamaniacs are "Attempting" to draw a link between the AZ (and like) laws with Anti-Hispanic Discrimination. IF they are
successful in moving only a few percentage points, it can make the difference in many races.
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irenemm
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chnlisle
I grew up in Los Angeles well Wilmington, Carson area and then on to La Puente. My brother in laws are retired LAPD. Both worked EAST LA not the best
place to be.
I will only tell you the truth about here it is safe. I have lived here for almost 30 years and feel very safe. If you don't, don't come. I would
never lie to someone to make a buck maybe you would. Those who want to come will.
I was quoting henshaw who though he would just camp on the streets of East LA.
Maybe you should have read his post first.
Well now I know you check out our web page.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
What polling has been done has consistently shown mostly majority support among the Various Hispanic communities for enforcing the Immigration laws
and that is WHY the Obamaniacs are "Attempting" to draw a link between the AZ (and like) laws with Anti-Hispanic Discrimination. IF they are
successful in moving only a few percentage points, it can make the difference in many races. |
So the polls show legal Mexican immigrants are willing to discriminate against illegal Mexican immigrants? Then who besides the government of Mexico
is complaining?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
So the polls show legal Mexican immigrants are willing to discriminate against illegal Mexican immigrants? Then who besides the government of Mexico
is complaining? |
Immigration activists. Reconquistas etc.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
So the polls show legal Mexican immigrants are willing to discriminate against illegal Mexican immigrants? Then who besides the government of Mexico
is complaining? |
Immigration activists. Reconquistas etc. |
Don't they think Mexican immigration has been active enough with 11 Million illegal in the USA already? How much more active could it get without
moving the US border down to Guatemela? 
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
How much more active could it get without moving the US border down to Guatemela? |
The Reconquistas want their land back. They want to erase history.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16245
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chnlisle
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
I will only tell you the truth about here it is safe. |
Well, there is truth and then there is TRUTH. Remember this post? You can find it here.
| Quote: | In three years of renting a house in Mexico and traveling there monthly I never had any problems. 2003 to 2006 must have been off years for banditos.
This last trip made up for it in triplicate.
I am going to make this as short as possible. On the way down to Mulege my wife and I stopped for the night to camp at El Paballon RV park, on 17th of
February. When we woke up the next morning at 5:30, there were two Mexican guys acting like they were looking at some old whale bones at the parks
entrance. We could tell they were checking us out. My only thought was that we were lucky we woke up so early. We broke camp and were on the road only
a few minutes later. We had only taken out the necessities, as we were just camping for the night. We were driving a late model Toyota Tacoma extra
cab. As the road turns up into the hills that go over to El Rosario I notice in my rear view mirror a truck rounding the corner behind us that was
going way too fast. I immediately said a commented about it to my wife, and recalled a story I had read on the internet where some guys tried to stop
an American on the Toll road outside of TJ. We decided to speed up and try and stay ahead of them. No matter how fast I went they were still catching
up with us. At that point I decided that there was no way I was going to let them pass. I pushed my truck as hard as I could, and then a little bit
more. They were right on our bumper now. At the exit of every curve, they would try and come along side of us, but I would gun it and our truck had
more pick up than theirs. Thank God. I had more of a load than they did though, so they would catch up on the curves. My wife was looking back and
could see the passenger had a rifle between his legs, and that they were the same two guys from that morning in the camp ground. We were in a race for
our lives. Finally we could see the top of the mesa where the army check point is. I floored it and we started to pull away from the banditos. At
which point they turned around. We told the army guys what had just happened, but they were uninterested.
This was a total set up. The care taker of the place heard me tell the people travelling south with us, all our plans. They went on to Rosario to get
a room for the night while we camped. She overheard the time we were leaving, the direction, and took a good look at all the stuff in the back of our
truck. The two guys were definitely waiting for us in the morning.
On the way north we saw the same mid 80’s model red Toyota parked off the highway at the entrance to the road out to El Paballon RV park. No doubt
they were scouting for their next victim. Be safe out there, and be very careful if you camp at this spot. |
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DavidE
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Oye! No hookup!
Aqui es esprea para trolls...
PSSSSSTTTTTT>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Vete a la..........
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bajalera
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A rifle could be seen between the dude's legs? Now that's damn good eyesight!
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalera
A rifle could be seen between the dude's legs? Now that's damn good eyesight! |
I remember that post although I can't recall the poster.
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desertcpl
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rifle
no it was John Holms
I am not making fun us this at all,, I am taking this on face value, I was not there, and I am sure what she saw was the truth, I am sure it was way
scary
[Edited on 7-10-2010 by desertcpl]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
no it was John Holms
[Edited on 7-10-2010 by desertcpl] |
I thought John Holmes was dead? Was elvis driving?
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irenemm
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chnlisle
I am sorry that happened to you. But I am not in Pavallon. I am more than 30 miles north of there. I am talking about here in my town, I know how I
feel safe here in my town. Pavallon is out there by it self. I have a night watchmen and even when we did not I feel safe. I feel safe traveling by
my self. I have be doing it for almost 30 years.
I am always aware of what is going on around me. As one should be.
Do you speak Spanish? Perhaps at the check point they did not understand you. Especially if you told them they had a rifle.
I would not camp anywhere by myself.
When we were kids we would go north to visit our grandparents. my parents did not have money and we would just pull off the side of the road on Hwy
99 in California and sleep in the car. I would never do that now even if we could. I will not stop where I do not see many people.
I never said there is not crime of opportunity. That is what takes place a the Paballon prehaps.
Do you still come to Baja or not?
Maybe you should stop where I believe it is safe. At the Posada Don Diego
Irene
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
I highly recomend all Gringos living in Mexico dump B of A. Now we can truly leave all those Stateside games up north.  |
B of A is now a partner with Santander Serafin - I pulled out my Pesos from Santander without any fees to speak of. 
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bajafam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Do illegals vote in the USA? Do Mexicans have any power at the polls?
If they did, how would AZ have passed this new law? Most people who have applied for and entered the USA legally highly resent those
who have taken shortcuts and thumbed their noses at their new host country. So does that make legal aliens conservatives? |
This "new law" wasn't voted on by the people of AZ. It's a Senate Bill.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
What polling has been done has consistently shown mostly majority support among the Various Hispanic communities for enforcing the Immigration laws
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While there are few things that Mr.BillM and I would agree on, what he says about the attitudes of pochos (offspring of Mexicans living in the U.S.)
towards the less fortunate undocumented workers from Mexico seems to be true.
Over the years, I've had many undocumented Mexican friends. Those who have been deported have said that, while INS agents who were White, Black,
Korean, or Filipino treated them with dignity and respect, INS agents of Hispanic heritage often treated them poorly.
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