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Cielomar
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Thanks for the post David. Last summer I got fed up with the Pemex stations in Todos Santos and Pescadero pocketing up to 15% when I simply
said"lleno". Complained to Profeca in La Paz and nothing happened. Of course all the locals knew they were being ripped off and have been ordering
by the liter for years. I also understand that the pumps farther to the inside of the station are calibrated to rip you off even more, so say the
locs. I drove back to the US and got 12% better gas mileage using the liter method than when I came down two months prior. I don't think the price
went down (does it ever?). Maybe I had a strong wind to my back!!
PS-The Pemex outside of Todos going toward La Paz is owned by the local ejido and is honest. I filled up a 5 gallon can there and it was right on the
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Roberto
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What he's saying is pretty clear, actually, and simple:
| Quote: | | The pumps must be accurate when dispensing by product quantity rather than peso amount, to keep PROFECO off their butt. |
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Mothballs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=liters
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bob and Susan
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i think this is an "urban myth"
let's ask antonio "bajacatus" if this can be done with the gas pumps
i dont think it can
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Roberto
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It does seem weird that 16 liters of gas will cost two different amounts depending on whether you buy by the liter or by the peso.
How does the pump know which one you ordered? 
By hand it would seem impossible - perhaps with the automated device the pump could be controlled differently if liters are entered vs pesos? I don't
even know if you CAN enter liters in the automated device.
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Bob and Susan
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hahaaha
in mexico jaajajaj
i do know in the usa the gas shuts off at the nozzel
in mexico at the pump
there is alot of gas in the black tube that can drain out
gas station attendents did that all the time in the states in the 60's
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
It does seem weird that 16 liters of gas will cost two different amounts depending on whether you buy by the liter or by the peso.
How does the pump know which one you ordered?
By hand it would seem impossible - perhaps with the automated device the pump could be controlled differently if liters are entered vs pesos? I don't
even know if you CAN enter liters in the automated device. |
yeah bro., i'm having a problem wrapping my brain around this.  guess the
only way to know for sure is to try it both ways. heading down january.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
It does seem weird that 16 liters of gas will cost two different amounts depending on whether you buy by the liter or by the peso.
How does the pump know which one you ordered?
By hand it would seem impossible - perhaps with the automated device the pump could be controlled differently if liters are entered vs pesos? I don't
even know if you CAN enter liters in the automated device. |
Yes, you can buy by the liter at the automated PEMEX pumps. The attendant has a choice to enter liters or pesos amounts on the keypad/screen
I checked my truck's owner's manual and figured the liters required to full, 3/4, 1/2 and 1/4 of a tank.......one of these days I'll do a comparison
fill up from the indicated 1/2 tank level of liters vs "fill it up"
[Edited on 11-28-2011 by bajaguy]
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I don't know about other pemex stations around baja, but the one here in BoLA that has diesel is about 10% off in their favor. I have an '83 Ford
truck that I bought new. In the 28 years I have had the truck I have never been able to get more than 20 gallons in the rear tank. The station here is
able to get a little over 22 gallons into my tank. At least they are charging me for that many liters and when I do the math it comes out to more than
22 gallons.
Larry
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bajaguy
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5 US gallons converts to roughly 19 liters. Mark off the 5 gallon line and tell the station you want 19 liters.....see what you get:
http://www.metric-conversions.org/conversion-charts/volume/l...
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rob
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Bob - you ask how this can be done? Just order the chip of your choice from your friendly aftermarket PEMEX-accessories salesman. In Mexico City you
can also buy a CFE chip for your (new, electronic-type) power meter.
Incidentally, saying "lleno" is the same as buying in pesos . . .
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
hahaaha
in mexico jaajajaj
i do know in the usa the gas shuts off at the nozzel
in mexico at the pump
there is alot of gas in the black tube that can drain out
gas station attendents did that all the time in the states in the 60's |
me too. As a teen I would drain all the hoses into my tank... probably got a half gallon at most... but it was free
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Phil S
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If I had quit coming down here because of the station 'rip off', I would have quit 24 years ago. Soooooo. I don't worry about the price of gas,
because I 'have no control over it", and if you get bad service at a restaurant and you love the food every time, you'll not "QUIT" the restaurant.
I wonder about those that take it personal over the 10% surcharge some stations charge. I've been coming down for about 24 years now, & sometimes
twice in one year (from Oregon-quite a drive) Heck folks. Your in a 3rd world country. If something like that bothers you. Quit coming down, if it
hurts you financially.
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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It seemed hilarios to me too until I fed eighty eight liters into a 16 gallon tank at a gasolinera on mex 37 between Patzcuaro and Morelia. Eduardo
and Jesus were howling in agony. I told them about gringos disbelelieving that liters and pesos can be manipulated and they just rolled their eyes.
I cannot subsidize gasolinera owner's incomes with four dollar a gallon magna thank you.
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Bob and Susan
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ok tomorrow
i have two one gallon plastic containers
pictures will be attached
we will END this 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
ok tomorrow
i have two one gallon plastic containers
pictures will be attached
we will END this |
So, you're going to:
1. ask for three liters exactly. Then, note the amount charged in pesos.
2. ask for this same peso amount in the other container and see if the pump reads exactly three liters, right?
I'll be shocked if there is any difference either way.
Of course, this wont determine IF you actually got a true three liters. But it should dispense with this "urban myth" or whatever it is.
[Edited on 11-29-2011 by Hook]
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Bob and Susan
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yes
and at the same time to have the same temp for expansion
yes i will get what i get...you are right but
the argument here is you get a BETTER flow if you order in liters
actually i was going to order 2 liters and see the level
so NO spillage
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Hook
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Go for three. It will be a better indicator of any disparity.
That still leaves approx. .8 gallon headroom in the cans. Should be no spillage there.
Also, dont tell the attendant what you're about to do. Place the orders separately. Let him complete one order and then place the other.
One other urban myth is that they can flip a switch and make the pumps pump correct. So, dont let on that this is a test.
[Edited on 11-30-2011 by Hook]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
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One other urban myth is that they can flip a switch and make the pumps pump correct. So, dont let on that this is a test.
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That would indicate an attendant's interest in how much is dispensed. Highly unlikely.
They just work there.
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Hook
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Hey, it's MY urban myth......................
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