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DavidE
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A pregunta por favor...
Why do these things ALWAYS end up being second or fifth hand related or posted by a newbie who then goes away and never returns?
Even Transitos Tecatitos are not stupid enough to try and fine a passenger for not wearing a seat belt. There is and never has been a law anywhere in
Mexico that even mentions non-drivers and seat belts.
After standing in a parking lot of a restaurant in Ciudad Constitucion for TEN MINUTES with a transito and seeing seven gringos flagrantly breaking
the law (one guy towing a three axle boat was doing around 50 mph downtown on the main street not the paralelo), and two motorhomes that made illegal
left turns into a gasolinera, I have to wonder about how tightly many gringos have their head screwed on.
Many towns have extremely strict laws about the display of a machete or a knife. They should be kept hidden. Tecate has no industry downtown that
allows the display of a knife.
And, it is close to Navidad. A big biter has a mistress to support, jewelry to buy, a casa chica to maintain. So the possibility of getting nipped
increases and even though Mexicanos may accelerate and do 70 through an amber traffic light, your doing 50 kph in a 30 zone makes a stop justified.
After all the cop will have to work his butt off to squeeze a hundred pesos out of the light blower, and merely sing a song of six pence to milk a cow
with the gringo.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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bill erhardt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
......After all the cop will have to work his butt off to squeeze a hundred pesos out of the light blower, and merely sing a song of six pence to milk
a cow with the gringo. |
A good line, and right on the money. Every time a gringo antes up on mordida it perpetuates the game.
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QUETZALCOATL
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Very interesting topic, it always amuses me that machete and hammer were openly carried yet a leatherman could get you in a bind. When the border wait
road rage thing sept-dec 2001 happened many of the daily border crossers took to long screw drivers and tire irons.I thought there would be an
opportunity to types of hidden weapons one could carry in Baja. The obvious choice being a small pistol in the shape of a cell phone. So I got on the
web to see if any one had thought of that and sure enough a cartel leader had already been caught with 1. If you want to have a holstered knife in Mx
the best way is a folded (non straight blade) multipurpose tool with a blade no longer then 4 inches. Hope this helps-have a great day.
in otin ihuan in tonalin nican tzonquica-Aztec saying for \"here ends the roads and the days\"
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Marla Daily
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We are one of the cars (F250 4WD with camper shell, often towing a Wells Cargo trailer) that has had more trouble than not in Tecate these last two
years. We are now EXPECT to get stopped. We have always politely refused to pay their "fines". We also politely refused to follow them to the ATM to
get cash—yes it was demanded we do that as well since we had no cash. Of our alleged egregious violations (running a stop sign, speeding), as
variously claimed by motorcycle cops, cops in a truck, and cops in a car, we have only been "guilty" of having our dogs in the cab with us. That too
we simply and politely refused to pay in what resulted in a Mexican stand-off. The cops left first. It is Russian Roulette transiting Tecate now.
Cops are greedy; too often they are successful in shaking down cars with US plate. Sad.
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jkruk
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Dogs
What is the law regarding Dogs in cars?? My truck, going down is usually so full the back seat is the only place left for the big guy.
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captkw
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IMO
sounds like alot of folks are not calling or email the tourest department !! they do take tourest biz important !!! and about a knife .. never had a
problem with BIG fishing knifes.. Yo pescador !!
[Edited on 11-28-2012 by captkw]
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Marla Daily
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Although I do not know what the law actually is, one of our cop stops was for the alleged violation of dogs in the cab of our truck (in the seat
behind the front seats). We were told our dogs must ride in the camper, and he made us put them in it. I firmly believe this is patently untrue and
just an excuse to shake down gringos who get scared and pay up. We complied and refused to pay. Once we got into the border line awaiting crossing,
the doggies rejoined us in the cab.
It is rare to see a Mexican in a vehicle with a dog unless maybe he is a rancher and there is a dog in the back of an open pick-up. Traveling with
dogs in a car is much more of a gringo activity—one which is now targeted as "illegal", at least by Tecate cops!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marla Daily
Although I do not know what the law actually is, one of our cop stops was for the alleged violation of dogs in the cab of our truck (in the seat
behind the front seats). We were told our dogs must ride in the camper, and he made us put them in it. I firmly believe this is patently untrue
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"Although I do not know what the law actually is,... I firmly believe this is patently untrue" 
marla, thank you for the morning funny!
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Hook
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Remember, folks.....
Christmas is coming,
the geese are driving fat.
The cops would like some money
for their kid's.....and more than that.
If anyone doubts that this was a shakedown, then why was the Leatherman returned to the owner, if it was illegal?
Silly gringo. Never keep that much in your wallet for the cop to see.
Thanks for all information. Information is good.
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Marc
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My only problem at Tecate is our ass***e border agents.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
........ Every time a gringo antes up on mordida it perpetuates the game. |
Sometimes, well, it is just easier like being stopped on a holiday weekend miles down the road, when one would have to drive back to Ensenada and stay
there over the weekend. Does that make it right? I don't think so, nor does it necessarily make it wrong. It is part of the system, I fear.
Paying mordida is not just for the gringos. Over the years we have known and seen many locals pay mordida. Once on the mainland we hired a taxi
driver to be a tour guide for a day and during that day, he paid mordida three different times. He grumbled, but said it was not worth taking time
away from his business to fight it.
Tecate? Well, we will continue to pass through there and our dogs will be with us --- I guess since we don't have a truck, we will need to tie the
dogs on the roof rack. 
[Edited on 11-28-2012 by DianaT]
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marla Daily
We are one of the cars (F250 4WD with camper shell, often towing a Wells Cargo trailer) that has had more trouble than not in Tecate these last two
years. We are now EXPECT to get stopped. We have always politely refused to pay their "fines". We also politely refused to follow them to the ATM to
get cash—yes it was demanded we do that as well since we had no cash. Of our alleged egregious violations (running a stop sign, speeding), as
variously claimed by motorcycle cops, cops in a truck, and cops in a car, we have only been "guilty" of having our dogs in the cab with us. That too
we simply and politely refused to pay in what resulted in a Mexican stand-off. The cops left first. It is Russian Roulette transiting Tecate now.
Cops are greedy; too often they are successful in shaking down cars with US plate. Sad. |
Marla.........have you done anything about your experiences other than post here?????......have you protested to the chief of police, the mayor, the
state director of tourism or the governor of Baja?????.....You can't expect anything positive to happen unless you take steps to solve the problem.
If you can take the time to post here on Nomads, you can take the time to send an e-mail to the officials.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
........ Every time a gringo antes up on mordida it perpetuates the game. |
Sometimes, well, it is just easier like being stopped on a holiday weekend miles down the road, when one would have to drive back to Ensenada and stay
there over the weekend. Does that make it right? I don't think so, nor does it necessarily make it wrong. It is part of the system, I fear.
Paying mordida is not just for the gringos. Over the years we have known and seen many locals pay mordida. Once on the mainland we hired a taxi
driver to be a tour guide for a day and during that day, he paid mordida three different times. He grumbled, but said it was not worth taking time
away from his business to fight it.
Tecate? Well, we will continue to pass through there and our dogs will be with us --- I guess since we don't have a truck, we will need to tie the
dogs on the roof rack.
[Edited on 11-28-2012 by DianaT] |
Asking for (extortion), or paying (a bribe) mordita is a crime in Mexico. Would you offer to pay a bribe in the US????? I think not. Call their bluff
if you are right, tell them to write a ticket and you will pay officially if you are wrong.
Justify it however you want, everyone who pays mordita is contributing to the problem....yeah, look in the mirror, that's you.
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Ateo
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I deserved to be pulled over last month when I was in Tecate. As I was coming into town from the Ensenada road, winding down the final stretch into
Tecate proper where you make a hard left by an OXXO. There was a billboard with a women's breasts prominently displayed overhead. I peaked at it for
one second and I blew thru a stop sign and immediately thought, "oh crap, I'm getting pulled over". Little did I know my wife's wrath would be
harsher than a police stop.
Seriously though, it was a mistake and I was embarrassed I made it. There wasn't cross traffic at the stop sign, it was just a stop sign randomly
placed....
Just a reminder to always be paying attention to the road and not breasts. 
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mulegemichael
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off all the dozens and dozens and dozens of times we've passed through tecate over the years, we've never once been hassled there by
anyone..never...but now y'all got me looking over my shoulder....especially since we'll be passing through there this next week.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
Every time a gringo antes up on mordida it perpetuates the game. |
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Justify it however you want, everyone who pays mordita is contributing to the problem....yeah, look in the mirror, that's you.
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And the problem is the moral corruption of communities caused by mordida paying gringoes. Tragic.
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captkw
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the bite !!
IMO its always worse right before xmas & valatines day...just a saying what I've noticed........
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Are all of these good fortune reports a rebuttal to the first post or are they just efforts to share happiness?
If they're the former, perhaps it would just cut to the chase by calling the story a lie.
If it's the latter, maybe they should be followed with some puppy and sunset pictures. |
Have every one noticed that Dennis the last few days is getting back to is old form,, glad he is feeling better
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
And the problem is the moral corruption of communities caused by mordida paying gringoes. Tragic. |
Lee.....I think the problem is that the majority of residents here (both Mexican and Americans/Canadians do not invest in their communities.
I don't see a community based/wide effort to pick up trash or paint over graffitti. I see municipal, state and federal workers drive by the same burnt
out streetlight or stoplight or driving over the same pothole without reporting or fixing it......Until the residents invest, nothing will change.
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I deserved to be pulled over last month when I was in Tecate. As I was coming into town from the Ensenada road, winding down the final stretch into
Tecate proper where you make a hard left by an OXXO. There was a billboard with a women's breasts prominently displayed overhead. I peaked at it for
one second and I blew thru a stop sign and immediately thought, "oh crap, I'm getting pulled over". Little did I know my wife's wrath would be
harsher than a police stop.
Seriously though, it was a mistake and I was embarrassed I made it. There wasn't cross traffic at the stop sign, it was just a stop sign randomly
placed....
Just a reminder to always be paying attention to the road and not breasts. |
yeah that billboard will get
ya everytime!
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