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David K
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"Has anyone had the extreme pleasure of driving slowly across very straight and wide-open stretches of the Baja Road on a bright, clear moonlight
night? ...with zero traffic?"
Yes, it is great... even on moonless nights when the stars are so bright it lights up the desert!
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J.P.
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There is a thing called International rule of Etiquette .That applies to all means of transportation. Air, Water, and land all human powered vehicles
have the right of way in the order of Human over Air, And Air over Power. Get over your self respect everyone's right of way. 
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ncampion
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I hate to say it, but "Common Sense" is becomming a very scarce commodity these days.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Obviously, there is an attempt at creating a new special interest group, award it some special rights or privileges, and make the others
pay or be inconvenienced by them, instead of asking the tiny percentage of these recreational riders avoid a danger
to them and others?
Instead of all that additional 'government', how about some awareness, that's all...? It would seem many of these recreational bike riders have never
been south of San Quintin, had a clue there was no shoulder (paved or dirt), and don't mean to cause harm or panic to all the users of Highway One?
Common sense should make this a no brainer. |
so, in your case, your ant-bike feelings are all about being inconvenienced. thank you for clarifying!
did a bicyclist ever ask you to pay them?
bicyclists are not asking for special rights or privileges! they just want to exercise their existing rights without being endangered by people that
drive too fast and don't or won't share the road or complain incessantly about sharing the road
Slow down, share the road!
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David K
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Obviously, there is an attempt at creating a new special interest group, award it some special rights or privileges, and make the others
pay or be inconvenienced by them, instead of asking the tiny percentage of these recreational riders avoid a danger
to them and others?
Instead of all that additional 'government', how about some awareness, that's all...? It would seem many of these recreational bike riders have never
been south of San Quintin, had a clue there was no shoulder (paved or dirt), and don't mean to cause harm or panic to all the users of Highway One?
Common sense should make this a no brainer. |
so, in your case, your ant-bike feelings are all about being inconvenienced. thank you for clarifying!
did a bicyclist ever ask you to pay them?
bicyclists are not asking for special rights or privileges! they just want to exercise their existing rights without being endangered by people that
drive too fast and don't or won't share the road or complain incessantly about sharing the road
Slow down, share the road! |
Goat, your (and a few others) insistance on not dealing with the reality of this 'bike vs motorized vehicle' dilemma is just mind-boggling to me!
It is a similar subject to spectators running across the race-course along the Baja 1000 (etc.), or worse, those that stand too close to the passing
race cars----------do you also champion their right to do these dangerous things?? (perhaps you do!?!?!?)
Think about it.
The reality is that people will, and do, drive too fast on Mex 1 whether that is right, or not, and the road is VERY narrow. Bicycles are no match
with motor vehicles when collisions occur, and that is a FACT!!!
It's really as simple as that, to me anyway, and I am a bike rider (but NOT on THAT road).
Barry
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akshadow
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maybe you should take a poll and ask what we would like to be in when we are passed, Rv, Truck, car or a bicycle.
My guess is on a bicycle is the thing we least like.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Be nice if the debaters in p!ssing contest could haul it back over to the other multi-page p1ssing contest.
Lordy, ask a simple question....... |
But then this fascinating thread would just end, eh?
[Edited on 1-29-2014 by Barry A.]
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bent-rim
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A bit off topic, but my favorite vehicle to be on while passing other vehicles is my motorcycle. It's also nice for when a truck towing a travel
trailer coming the other way 12-18" over the line. Funny thing is I've never encountered a semi 12-18" over the line coming the other direction.
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Ateo
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In my Del Mar race announcer voice:
And "passing a bicycle" is in the lead..................
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captkw
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Over the line !!
| Quote: | | I've never encountered a semi 12-18" over the line coming the other direction. |
Hola,, as someone that has
driven more miles than anyone you will ever meet ...I can say that semi's cross the line more that any other unit on a hwy !! and is the norm thru out
the world on smaller roads....
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BornFisher
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
In my Del Mar race announcer voice:
And "passing a bicycle" is in the lead.................. |
Do you remember that rainy day at Del Mar-- announcer was all over it that day!! Here`s the call------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byBE3GTqfj0
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bajadogs
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bent-rim
A bit off topic, but my favorite vehicle to be on while passing other vehicles is my motorcycle. It's also nice for when a truck towing a travel
trailer coming the other way 12-18" over the line. Funny thing is I've never encountered a semi 12-18" over the line coming the other direction.
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Yes! Me too, on my KLR650. It just rolls past everything no matter how bad the road and it is really nice to have so much space in a lane when the
on-coming trailers are going across the line.
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mtgoat666
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Follow the golden rule
Slow down
Share the road
Peace out!
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Follow the golden rule
Slow down
Share the road
Peace out! |
I suppose that we all should realize that "the Goat" is simply a computer, not a human, and just responds to certain prompts. 
Barry
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Follow the golden rule
Slow down
Share the road
Peace out! |
I suppose that we all should realize that "the Goat" is simply a computer, not a human, and just responds to certain prompts.
Barry |
Come on, Barry, use some cognitive behavioral motivation here!
Nobody got called an idiot or any other name and the message was simple and helpful!
I'll take it over the constant I'm right/your an idiot crap!
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Huh????? I just looked at Wiki for an interpretation/definition of "cognitive behavioral motivation" and read down for about 4 paragraphs and came
away with ----"Huh"??????
You (and Wiki) are way over my head.
Granted, 'the goat' did not insult anybody in this last post, but he apparently refuses to even SEE the other side of the issue, NO MATTER WHAT (or at
least he won't admit to it). I fail to see how his comments were "helpful"----stubborn beyond reason, yes, but not "helpful".
I am use to "the Goat's" caustic comments in Off-Topic, so granted I am probably over-reacting to him.
Barry
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J.P.
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Narrow roads in Baja Sur
No one has mentioned the DEADLY GAME that some of the Truck Drivers play. When they meet a Oncoming Rv they will quickly veer over the line and back
on to thier side so that the end of the trailer is on your side as you pass and your drivers side mirror explodes. It happened to me twice on the
straight stretch south of Guerro Negro. the second time i was watching carefully and saw the whole thing unfold. as a string of trucks approached they
were traveling close together the last truck set up for the hit just as it approached.
A truck driver that was following me stopped to help and was the one that explained it to me, He had a extra mirror and helped me jerry rig it on my
R.V. 
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
No one has mentioned the DEADLY GAME that some of the Truck Drivers play. When they meet a Oncoming Rv they will quickly veer over the line and back
on to thier side so that the end of the trailer is on your side as you pass and your drivers side mirror explodes. It happened to me twice on the
straight stretch south of Guerro Negro. the second time i was watching carefully and saw the whole thing unfold. as a string of trucks approached they
were traveling close together the last truck set up for the hit just as it approached.
A truck driver that was following me stopped to help and was the one that explained it to me, He had a extra mirror and helped me jerry rig it on my
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My brother-in-law had the exact same thing happen to him, twice. After the second time, he never went to Baja again!!! True story.
Barry
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I am use to "the Goat's" caustic comments in Off-Topic, so granted I am probably over-reacting to him.
Barry |
Ah, Barry, don't be an old goat!
I was yankin' your chain!
Just nice to see a post without labeling someone, from someone who constantly baits the easy fish on here, be it an America destroying liberal or
idiot or whatever....
Peace! |
Good point, Soulpatch-------------I will pull back my jerking knee a bit.
Barry
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
No one has mentioned the DEADLY GAME that some of the Truck Drivers play. When they meet a Oncoming Rv they will quickly veer over the line and back
on to thier side so that the end of the trailer is on your side as you pass and your drivers side mirror explodes. It happened to me twice on the
straight stretch south of Guerro Negro. the second time i was watching carefully and saw the whole thing unfold. as a string of trucks approached they
were traveling close together the last truck set up for the hit just as it approached.
A truck driver that was following me stopped to help and was the one that explained it to me, He had a extra mirror and helped me jerry rig it on my
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My brother-in-law had the exact same thing happen to him, twice. After the second time, he never went to Baja again!!! True story.
Barry |
Maybe we should poll the truck drivers since they really own the road. Are RVs or bicycles a bigger safety problem on the highway?
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