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bajalearner
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What's strange to me is that I rarely get aggressive toword someone in person. I don't yell FU to their face or get rage'd off. I just turn the
other cheek and think the person's culture or personality sucks.
It's only in the large metal extension of my "space" that I am compelled to lash out at another person.
Why is that???
Maybe it is that the metal protects me from getting my a*# kicked.
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Udo
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That's not a move, JP...
That is Mexican law!
| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
I think JP has the right description.
However, every time I head south, some new move by a Mexican driver appears in front of me.
I fail to be surprised any more.
My attitude is "ONLY IN MEXICO"
In some instances, I am now imitating them. |
 I under stand
the move that I admire most is the one where when the light changes the guy or more often gal in the far right lane charges ahead and turns left in
front of everyone. I just cant work up the courage to try that one. |
Udo
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Udo
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My experience of driving in Europe, is also of no amazement, no matter what anyone does.
Although the best maneuver I have seen by European drivers is the one when I was on a two-lane highway...a car oncoming...and the driver behind me
passes me! The driver coming from the opposite lane just moved over to his right and let the guy pass!
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
According to a cousin visiting me a few years ago, American drivers are very polite compared to their European counterparts.
He said a 4 way stop, so common here, would never work in Europe and would result in one giant fustercluck, since everyone would try to beat the other
guy to the intersection.
And road rage is very common, with lots of incidents.
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Udo
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DavidE
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All the Italian drivers I saw in Roma must have all been from North Dakota and Minnesota...
Flailing hand gestures and
"Upper U.S.! Upper U.S.!"
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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mtgoat666
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all you stressed, uptight drivers and road ragers would do well to heed my instructions:
slow down
and
share the road
p.s. what's the rush? if you are late, so be it (next time you will know to leave earlier).
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dasubergeek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
My favorite maneuver is what we call the third world, third lane, left hand turn. The car is in the shoulder on the right side of the road but just
before the light turns green, the driver races into the intersection to turn left in front of all the people who are actually in lanes. In some case
there is a left turn lane, you know the one on the left side of the lanes.
I forgot...no rage involved, amazement maybe but no rage!
[Edited on 4-21-2014 by bajajudy] |
Do that from the actual left lane and you've just described the reason why New Jersey had to install jughandles—even my driving examiner at the DMV
made sure to tell me not to stomp the gas at the green light—otherwise I'd get broad-sided by the people turning left ahead of the crowd.
Oh, and in France, there's a rule called "priorité à droite", which means that unless a tiny yellow sign tells you otherwise, someone coming from a
road joining from the right has the right-of-way. So imagine you're headed down a busy road and there's a dirt road on your right. The person coming
off that dirt road and turning right onto the main road has priority, and you, the driver on the main road going straight, have to stop. This is why
it takes forever to get around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris: there are twelve roads joining that circle. You get to jet onto the circle from whatever
road you're on, then stop dead at the next road while traffic from that road piles on.
My personal favorite in Mexico is the 135D toll road from Orizaba to Oaxaca. It's a two-lane, undivided road, but everyone makes it a three-lane road
and sometimes four.
[Edited on 4-21-2014 by dasubergeek]
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dougf69
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Back in the 80s I flew into LAX on the red eye from DC, picked up a rental car and headed out to my meeting in San Bernardino.
Coming out of the airport there are 2 left turn lanes onto Century Blvd and 1 straight ahead lane. I was in the number 2 left turn lane and a guy in a
Mazda truck was next to me in the go straight lane.
When the light turned green he punched it and chopped in front of me. Without thinking I honked the horn and flipped him off. So he slammed on his
brakes, opened his door and got out with a baseball bat in his hands.
There was no one in the number one lane next to me so I punched it to go around him. He saw me coming and jumped back in the truck but left the door
open. As I passed him I caught the door and knocked it completely off the hinges. I watched to door skidding down the road in my rear view mirror and
just kept going.
When I returned the rental car the next day there was minor damage to the front bumper and right fender but nobody said anything and I was never
billed for the damage. However I worried for weeks that someone had taken down my plate number and that the police would track me down and charge me
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bajalearner
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
All the Italian drivers I saw in Roma must have all been from North Dakota and Minnesota...
Flailing hand gestures and
"Upper U.S.! Upper U.S.!" |
Yeah, keep thinking that. hahaha, very good
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Skipjack Joe
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I no longer have road rage in neither the US or Mexico. It's one of the advantages of aging. You no longer have road rage, but you cause it.
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bajalearner
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What is the deal with the drivers in the border crossing lines on the MX side? They don't give an inch. They are ruthless and won't let anyone
change lanes. Turn signals don't mean a thing most of the time.
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I no longer have road rage in neither the US or Mexico. It's one of the advantages of aging. You no longer have road rage, but you cause it.
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I cured my occasional rage after dating a lovely woman for several years----she was the slowest driver and not really very good at driving
overall...after that whenever I saw someone not driving well I just imagined it was her, doing her best.
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Pompano
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I certainly agree, Road Rage seems to be worldwide. I've driven through all categories of it... whether in Italy, Baja, the USA, or Canada. But I've
always found that a good sense of humor will get you through most situations.
- An honest man was being tailgated by a stressed out woman on a busy boulevard. Suddenly, the light turned yellow, just in front of him. He did
the right thing, stopping at the crosswalk, even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.
The tailgating woman hit the roof, and the horn, screaming in frustration as she missed her chance to get through the intersection. As she was still
in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up into the face of a very serious police officer. The officer ordered her to exit her car with
her hands up!
He took her to the police station where she was searched, finger printed, photographed, and placed in a holding cell. After a couple of hours, a
policeman approached the cell and opened the door. She was escorted back to the booking desk where the arresting officer was waiting with her personal
effects.
He said, "I'm very sorry for this mistake. You see, I pulled up behind your car while you were blowing your horn, flipping off the guy in front of
you, and cussing a blue streak at him.
"I noticed the 'Choose Life' license plate holder, the 'What Would Jesus Do' bumper sticker, the 'Follow Me to Sunday-School' bumper sticker, and the
chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk.
Naturally, I assumed you had stolen the car."
p.s. I'll be pulling a long fifth wheel with a pickup truck through Portland later today and will try not to become either a victim or the cause of
any Road Rage. I've always thought Portland traffic is plumb crazy...but it's the only way to reach my destination. 
[Edited on 4-22-2014 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
p.s. I'll be pulling a long fifth wheel with a pickup truck through Portland later today and will try not to become either a victim or the cause of
any Road Rage. I've always thought Portland traffic is plumb crazy...but it's the only way to reach my destination.
[Edited on 4-22-2014 by Pompano] |
I normally think that Salt Lake City traffic is even crazier, but it's all relative I suppose. 
Barry
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bajalearner
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10 years ago, I was stopped on the offramp from n/b I5 to e/b SR-79 in Temecula (toward the mall). The guy on my left side was also in a right turn
lane but edged his r/f fender into my lane inches in front of my bumper.
Green light and we both started to move which caused his entire right side to be gouged by my left front end of my bumper as he tried to get in front
of me.
We stopped and he was rage'ed that I did not stop to let him in. We exchanged info and I contacted his ins. co. to learn he told them I turned left
into his lane and hit him. It seemed to be a draw as far as fault.
After thinking about several days, I submitted a foto of my rig with the left front bumper bent forward at about a 45 degree angle. I told his ins.
co. that if I turned into him my bumper would have bent in to my front end.
His ins. accepted my facts and charged him with the fault. I did not have a claim because I inched up to a concrete light pole foundation and pushed
the bumper back in place. But he had severe damage and his ins. probably increased in $$$. His claim to my ins. was thrown out.
I should have stopped and let the goofball go ahead but I didn't. But in this case he paid for his actions.
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