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chuckie
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That's interesting, and surprising, no regs re: new construction...Thanks for keeping us "in the know".
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Pescador
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The biggest palm frond fire I have seen was Tripui trailer park south of Loreto that went up in just a few minutes from an overturned bar-b-q grill.
They stopped all palm roofs there as well.
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ElCap
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| Quote: | Here's the scoop on the recent Palm fire in Mulege 2014:
There were three houses burned.
One was concrete and had a wood roof with synthetic tile overlay (called maxi-teja).
The other two houses were wooden with palapa roofs-- you are correct, ElCap, and get the gold star for the day!
There is no building code prohibiting construction with palms in town. |
We own a large property along the river in San Ignacio, and unfortunately have experienced two large palm fires along the river in the past four
years. The fire in Aug. 2010 burned down three different wooden structures (w/palapa roofs)that had been on the property for at least 60 years. The
damage actually occurred on the second day after everyone thought the initial fire was out, but the wind came up again and ignited some hot spots.
The palm forest looked like a bunch of black sticks afterward, but within a year nearly all the palms were green and healthy (albeit with blackened
trunks), and heavy with dates. The intense heat did kill a few fruit trees though. We have made a large effort to keep our palms clean on our
property since that time, and it seemed to pay off in the most recent fires. Properties that have been kept clean were generally spared from damage,
while other areas (both privately owned and in federal zone) that are never cleaned went up in flames more readily.
My partner had an interesting conversation with a 3rd generation San Ignacio resident - her perspective was that previous generations were farmers and
they took better care of the land and the orchards in the oasis, and that fires were rare. BUt now many of these properties were left to their
children, who have no interest in farming or caring for the land as in past generations, and the palms groves are now full of fuel.
We have to remember that the date palm groves are not a natural or indigenous environment in Baja - the missionaries brought them here, and they have
flourished in the oasis regions of Baja. But these same Baja towns now don't have the resources to maintain and protect these areas from the
inevitable fires that will come. Hopefully these recent fires in Mulege and San Ignacio have gotten the attention of the right government folks who
might be able to help protect these important and beautiful oases (hey, I'm an optimist!).
Does anybody want to buy some delicious San Ignacio dates this Fall . . ? We will have them by the ton!
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Mulegena
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So right you are, ElCap.
Date palms were introduced by the Spanish missionaries. Coconut palms are not native, either. All palms are beautiful but messy.
More to the point, the orchards that were created so long ago are now largely untended. The need for a system of management is recognized and, the
overseeing agency is CONFIR which is akin to the forestry service.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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ehall
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How about some before and after pics?
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durrelllrobert
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Roasted Date Appetizer
| Quote: | Originally posted by ElCap
Does anybody want to buy some delicious San Ignacio dates this Fall . . ? We will have them by the ton! |
Ingredients
12 Medjool date
12 thinly sliced piece of smoked prosciutto
12 teaspoon shredded Fontina goat cheese
Honey and balsamic vinegar
Wild arugula
Instructions
Preheat oven to 350F.
Make a small slice (length-wise) on the Medjool dates and remove the pits.
Fill dates with Fontina fontal then wrap with sliced prosciutto.
Place dates on a baking sheet pan and cook for 15 minutes, or until the prosciutto is crispy.
Place wild arugula on a serving tray and add the dates. Top with goat cheese crumble and drizzle with vincotto or balsamic vinegar and honey.
Bob Durrell
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chuckie
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STOP THAT!
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