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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 09:16 AM
the proof is in the pudding no?


Over the last 25 years I have seen quite drastic changes in the lagoon..notable there as it is so flat that even a small rise in sea level floods more ground. We kept having to move our camp every few years. Our first camp and where the original ticket shack was is completely underwater now at any high tide.

They had to make a new road as the old one gets flooded alot...it is between the rocks in this photo of a high tide last season. The opening in the middle of the photo was a popular campsite. The ejido has now closed all the beach sites and made new camps further up on the other side of the road.



Izaak loved playing in the shallow water of the old road.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 09:29 AM


Thank you Shari... is that every high tide now, or just the extreme lunar tides that flood the road?

For example, same place on two different trips, one year apart, high tide:



Not so high:





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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 09:32 AM


Quote: Originally posted by shari  
Over the last 25 years I have seen quite drastic changes in the lagoon..notable there as it is so flat that even a small rise in sea level floods more ground. We kept having to move our camp every few years. Our first camp and where the original ticket shack was is completely underwater now at any high tide.

They had to make a new road as the old one gets flooded alot...it is between the rocks in this photo of a high tide last season. The opening in the middle of the photo was a popular campsite. The ejido has now closed all the beach sites and made new camps further up on the other side of the road.



Izaak loved playing in the shallow water of the old road.



[Edited on 12-8-2014 by shari]


hmmm I expect the rising water will also affect the Federal Zone.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 09:35 AM


yes DK, it was at a very high tide but the point was that years ago even at extreme high tides, the water didnt come up to where it comes up to now.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 10:34 AM


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The video wasn't about sea levels rising but land thawing out and sinking . The sea levels are falling in Alaska and BC or I suspect the land is rising.
see map here, http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html
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That's a great resource. In most places sea levels are rising, sea levels are falling mostly in northern latitudes, due to the land rising from retreating glaciers exerting less weight on the land.



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Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by Ricardo  
The video wasn't about sea levels rising but land thawing out and sinking . The sea levels are falling in Alaska and BC or I suspect the land is rising.
see map here, http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html
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True where the permafrost is melting the ground is sinking.
The island in the video is also being affected by erosion due to less sea ice.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 10:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

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I have many liberal friends, and I even tried being friendly to you and Diana T years ago.


Nice troll DK--- just right along the level you are. :barf:

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hmmm I expect the rising water will also affect the Federal Zone.



It will be interesting to see what happens to the Federal Zone in many places, especially in places where the gringos have had to legally fight to keep from having it changed over and over.

Thanks for the interesting links. And that map is an interesting study.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 10:40 AM


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Can't wait to get out and fish all those new reefs....
Yeah, one of those reefs might be your house someday.:lol:



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[*] posted on 12-8-2014 at 11:57 AM


We are seeing this along our coastline as well.

Quote: Originally posted by shari  
yes DK, it was at a very high tide but the point was that years ago even at extreme high tides, the water didnt come up to where it comes up to now.
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[*] posted on 12-9-2014 at 04:08 AM


I feel my temperature rising ...

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[*] posted on 12-9-2014 at 08:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DianaT  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  

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I have many liberal friends, and I even tried being friendly to you and Diana T years ago.


Nice troll DK--- just right along the level you are. :barf:



Oh, and this entire thread isn't a troll "Is Laguna Percebu going to share the same fate" LOL. I was honest... and I have tried many times since. I don't understand why some people don't want to be nice?




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[*] posted on 12-9-2014 at 01:09 PM


You continue to amuse. I had nothing to do with this thread until after your lame troll. Amusing and crazy response.:lol::lol:

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Quote: Originally posted by DianaT  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  

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I have many liberal friends, and I even tried being friendly to you and Diana T years ago.


Nice troll DK--- just right along the level you are. :barf:



Oh, and this entire thread isn't a troll "Is Laguna Percebu going to share the same fate" LOL. I was honest... and I have tried many times since. I don't understand why some people don't want to be nice?
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[*] posted on 12-9-2014 at 03:43 PM


That would be a nice start!:light:



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[*] posted on 12-9-2014 at 04:05 PM


yes it would...but at 9.5 posts per day over the last 12 years its not likely to happen.
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[*] posted on 12-9-2014 at 05:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by monoloco  
Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Can't wait to get out and fish all those new reefs....
Yeah, one of those reefs might be your house someday.:lol:


Excellent!, maybe I'll be able to cast from my deck in my golden years.:lol:




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Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
A different more scientific approach

http://cal-adapt.org/sealevel/

http://pacinst.org/publication/the-impacts-of-sea-level-rise...

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/08/21/3474061/californ...

WOW..... Thinkprogress, the CA state legislature and the San Fran Examiner as a more scientific report! Cmon man.

I guess for some its important to think that they matter that much. Besides, I thought we were through with "Global warming" and now it was "climate change".




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[*] posted on 12-10-2014 at 08:28 AM


Bingo Tom! The people who think they are more powerful than God are really something. The climate has always been changing, and the sea levels as well... long before man was here... and long after we are gone.



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[*] posted on 12-10-2014 at 08:44 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Bingo Tom! The people who think they are more powerful than God are really something. The climate has always been changing, and the sea levels as well... long before man was here... and long after we are gone.


David, does pollution change the environment?




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[*] posted on 12-10-2014 at 08:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Bingo Tom! The people who think they are more powerful than God are really something. The climate has always been changing, and the sea levels as well... long before man was here... and long after we are gone.



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