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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 08:52 AM


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"A selfish and boundless thirst for power and material prosperity" that misuses natural resources and degrades the environment also leads to social ills by excluding those who are physically, economically or politically weak, he said. "Economic and social exclusion is a complete denial of human fraternity and a grave offense against human rights and the environment."

Amen.
Pope did not "refuse" to address population growth. He said what he said. Strip mining is an abuse of natural resources. Black lung disease, polluted water, cancer is the result. Slashing and burning thousands of acres of the Amazon forest to plant opium poppies is an abuse of natural resources. Disruptive fishing that destroys ecosystems that prevents marine species from re-populating. C'mon - you know the instances of abuse of natural resources, the slave labor that supports it and resulting (literal) ills. Greed is one of the cardinal sins.


Some just refuse to listen.

Pope Francis urged world leaders to "set aside partisan and ideological interests" and work together to protect the environment and care for all of humanity on Friday in his address to the United Nations General Assembly.

But hell, we continue to get nasty here on Somads. How re world leader supposed to get it together?
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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 09:04 AM


they don't listen to us peons. they listen to the multi-national corporations who pay slave wages and no taxes.

vote them all out EVERY election.




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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 11:22 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  

Pope did not "refuse" to address population growth.


Please provide a link to where he has spoken out about the absolute necessity of birth control as an effective component of population control.
It's disingenuous of him to speak about one and continue to ignore the other.




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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 01:07 PM
Papal Pontificating


Saw a Good Editorial cartoon in the newspaper.:

The Pope speaking.................."The majority of ALL scientists agree that Anthropogenic Climate Change is occurring........"

With a scientist in the background saying "AND we also agree that there IS NO GOD'.

Like everyone, Francis selects which statements to agree with.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 03:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DavidT  
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  

Pope did not "refuse" to address population growth.


Please provide a link to where he has spoken out about the absolute necessity of birth control as an effective component of population control.
It's disingenuous of him to speak about one and continue to ignore the other.


"If-a you don' play-a da game, you don' make-a da rules!" Personally, I think population control globally is the most important issue to address. Yes, we should all have the freedom to procreate, but somebody needs to head-slap the Buggar family and talk realism to the masses. That includes head-tappiing the opponents to Planned Parenthood funding; turn 'em loose with free condoms for anyone, puberty-upwards. How about donations of container-loads to 3rd world countries? FREE. The scariest number statistics I've seen in print is the global population explosion in the next 30 years.... aye, therein lies the rub! Er, so to speak.......




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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 04:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Quote: Originally posted by DavidT  
Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  

Pope did not "refuse" to address population growth.


Please provide a link to where he has spoken out about the absolute necessity of birth control as an effective component of population control.
It's disingenuous of him to speak about one and continue to ignore the other.


"If-a you don' play-a da game, you don' make-a da rules!" Personally, I think population control globally is the most important issue to address. Yes, we should all have the freedom to procreate, but somebody needs to head-slap the Buggar family and talk realism to the masses. That includes head-tappiing the opponents to Planned Parenthood funding; turn 'em loose with free condoms for anyone, puberty-upwards. How about donations of container-loads to 3rd world countries? FREE. The scariest number statistics I've seen in print is the global population explosion in the next 30 years.... aye, therein lies the rub! Er, so to speak.......


We all think our issue is the most important, don't we.

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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 04:47 PM


hence the popularity of the forum boards.....



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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 04:48 PM


Instead of focusing on birth control - similar results can be achieved differently as this report shows (one of many that have come to the same conclusion):

Educational attainment is a very critical factor in accounting for lifetime fertility differentials. Women with 1 or more years of college have sharply lower lifetime fertility than less educated women, regardless of race or Hispanic origin. Women with college degrees can be expected to complete their childbearing with 1.6-2.0 children each; 1.7 for non-Hispanic white, 1.6 for non-Hispanic black, and 2.0 for Hispanic women. For women with less education the total expected number of children are: 3.2 children for those with 0-8 years of education; 2.3 children for those with 9-11 years of education and 2.7 for high school graduates.




excerpt taken from: "Birth and Fertility Rates by Educational Attainment: United States, 1994," by T. J. Mathews and Stephanie J. Ventura is also available from NCHS by calling (301) 458-4800.

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I also think that surely there are alternatives to mining being that it causes such horrid consequences.








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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 05:24 PM


The pope should stick to religion and stay out of politics and this thread went way left and right LOL

Progress is a force of nature...stop fighting it, the middle east has resisted and look at what a chit hole it is




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[*] posted on 9-26-2015 at 06:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
We all think our issue is the most important, don't we.


Are you implying population control is NOT critical? Or just feel like attacking the poster?

[Edited on 9-27-2015 by lencho]


Just pointing out to Woody the obvious when he stated he felt the most important issue was....... You obviously have your favorite issue as well. Once you realize this, you start to listen to what others have to say.
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