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Ateo
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Quote: Originally posted by ehall | Why don't they count the people that had covid and are carrying antibodies into the total percentage that are vaccinated? |
That is an easy question to be answered and readily available for you to find in the data that science has accumulated.
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gnukid
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Why don't they test vaccinated people to see if they produced antibodies associated to their local regional SARS2 type of influenza to know if they
reduced risk or increased risk?
How is possible that a vaccine targeting a computer model in China in Dec2019/Jan2020 would correlate to each individual's local current variant?
This is always the failure of influenza type vaccines by the time you get one, the influenza is different.
These vaccines supposedly produce specific SARS2 spike proteins, forever, while those infected now have an entirely different variant, which produces
spike proteins, but we would never know because there is no testing or evidence of efficacy, but there is ample evidence that spike protein production
is a cause of blood clots?
Should the vaxxers chase the variants with quarterly mRNA booster shots until their bodies are mass producing spike proteins of endless variants,
throughout their organs and bloodstream, causing blood clots.
The entire fiasco has no logical no evidentiary support while the risks of adverse events are high, all based on a faulty PCR RT picking up dying RNA
at high cycle counts.
No point vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19: Findings of Cleveland Clinic study
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinat...
While we're reminding vaxers of of Fauci failures, why did he hide the benefits of Hydroxychlorine, Ivermectin and the benefits to immunity of
nutrition, exercise, fresh air and sunshine?
[Edited on 6-17-2021 by gnukid]
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pauldavidmena
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Back on topic
Massachusetts ended its 15-month "State of Emergency" on 6/15, and most mask and capacity mandates 3 weeks earlier (just before Memorial Day weekend).
I'm still working from home and timing my trips out in public to avoid crowds. Living on Cape Cod, we're used to keeping a low profile during the
summer anyway, but now we've had plenty of practice. Vaccination rates here are high, but we do get plenty of out-of-state visitors during tourist
season, so I'm not licking doorknobs just yet.
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StuckSucks
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MrBillM: well said.
I enjoyed this sign in the door of Tom's Place on 395:
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gnukid
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Makes tremendous sense that to wear a mask to walk through doorway then remove it sitting in a chair...
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JZ
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The days of wearing masks are over in the US. It's been over for many months in a lot of states and CA is now on board.
If ppl want they can sit in their basements wearing them all they want. That's their personal choice.
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Mood: Got Baja fever!!
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I don't care whether the unvaccinated wear a mask or not, I'm tired of stupidity. Let em get sick, or hospitalized, or dead. Their choice and
nothing we can do about it.
Unless you are in a private environment. CAL/OSHA meets today and will vote within two weeks to mandat their rules. It is looking like you may be
required to wear a mask if you are not vaccinated. Thus far in the Bay Area you answer a form that asks if you are vaccinated. Options are
yes/no/decline to answer. All but a yes will require a mask in the workplace. Gnukiddo don't bother responding, I don't read your posts.
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gnukid
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Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama | I don't care whether the unvaccinated wear a mask or not, I'm tired of stupidity. Let em get sick, or hospitalized, or dead. Their choice and
nothing we can do about it.
Unless you are in a private environment. CAL/OSHA meets today and will vote within two weeks to mandat their rules. It is looking like you may be
required to wear a mask if you are not vaccinated. Thus far in the Bay Area you answer a form that asks if you are vaccinated. Options are
yes/no/decline to answer. All but a yes will require a mask in the workplace. Gnukiddo don't bother responding, I don't read your posts.
[Edited on 6-17-2021 by BajaMama] |
If you are so confident in yourself, what affect does others behavior have on you?
Why would an experimental unproven synthetic mRNA gene modification product with a long list of adverse affects, that is intended to hyper produce
SARS2 spike proteins be better than naturally recuperated that does demonstrate broad immunity?
Refocus, rethink, why promote these synthetic mRNA products, what is your logic? Why would facemarks provide a benefit to anyone except those working
with large dust particles? Virus is much smaller than the pores of the facemarks material?
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pauldavidmena
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Avoiding crowds: Are you vaccinated? Not a charged question, I'm just curious about how different individuals perceive the threat level before and
after vaccination.
Personally, I suspect that post-Pfeizer exposure is most likely just going to re-enforce my synthetically-induced immunity, so I'm not much concerned
about what's currently floating around out there. But a year of conscientious social avoidance has formed habits... |
I think you've hit the nail on the head. My wife and I are fully vaccinated, as are roughly 70% of Cape Cod's adult residents, therefore our risk
level is practically zero. For better or worse, we've been conditioned to be hyper-cautious, so it will take a little while to feel normal about doing
normal things.
Continuing to work from home has many advantages: I avoid 1.5 to 2 hours of commuting each day and get to be in a familiar environment with minimal
distractions. And avoiding tourist crowds is par for the course for Cape Cod full-timers, not so much for health reasons but certainly to avoid
inflated prices. We know where and how to shop for our essentials, and we'll return to the restaurants when they need local revenue.
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