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Alm
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Such a naivety. Your choice may and will be restricted when interests of the society demand so. Democracy is the power of the majority, not a free for
all.
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by Alm]
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  |
Another poster had stated he had never heard of that and asked for sources.
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by JDCanuck] |
I did not say I did not hear of that.
I simply asked for your source for the claim "many Canadians
went to USA for vaccines" and also said I did not know of any Canadian going to the USA for a vaccine shot. Your use of word "many" is misleading.
I am not sure what your agenda is on this topic.
Unscheduled drop-in vaccination sights have been operating in BC for the past few weeks....so not sure why folks think they need to go to USA when
Canada is overflowing with vaccines.
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by motoged]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | ....
I think it is disgusting she is being ostracized and attacked by people she previously believed were friends because she is following her doctors
advice. Is this the way a truly "liberal, tolerant, compassionate "society acts in times of crisis?
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by JDCanuck] |
Are you talking about a society or a small group of folks?
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | the posts were about people who were unable to actually get the vaccines until very recently so were traveling to the US where they had excesses and
getting them there at significant expenses. Until very recently on top of the costs of travel, it cost 3 days stay at around $1000 in a selected
quarantine Hotel, then 11 days quarantine at a site (usually a cheaper hotel)selected by the traveler, and three expensive tests costing about another
$900. My daughter just go back from flying down and getting hers in Utah 2 weeks ago |
Blame Canadian government who failed to procure any vaccine until March and have been unable to manufacture it in Canada. They fell behind many 3rd
world countries when it came to vaccination. As we are heading into the 3rd year of the pandemic, I wonder whether they have learned the lesson.
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Legal Case In Alberta Ends Covid Restrictions and Isolation Due To Lack of SARS2 Evidence of Isolation of Unique Virus
As cases surge, Alberta removes isolation requirements for COVID-19 close contacts
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/live-at-330-p-m-dr...
'Alberta is throwing out public health measures’: Canada’s doctors baffled after province aims to drop COVID-19 masking, isolation
https://news.yahoo.com/alberta-covid-19-rules-mask-isolation...
Legal challenge launched against Alberta's COVID-19 restrictions
https://edmonton.citynews.ca/2020/12/07/legal-challenge-laun...
Justice Centre takes Alberta to court to end lockdowns
https://www.jccf.ca/justice-centre-takes-alberta-to-court-to...
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motoged
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Alberta is not a bright light on the Canadian political front.
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motoged
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | ....
As for society in general, I notice growing confrontational anger at those that do not share our opinions, including personal attacks here on this
site. Last words from me as I no longer wish to be included in it. |
I agree that there appears to be dissention between belief systems.... not a new sociological phenomena, but I think the issue is a global one and
that there is a reckoning going on with societies around the globe.
The vocal battles are a function of the stress and uncertainty created by paradigm shifts...people voicing their stance is a need for attempts at
gaining certainty, predictability, and assurance they know what's going on....
BN is a microcosmic reflection of these processes.
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motoged
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | the posts were about people who were unable to actually get the vaccines until very recently so were traveling to the US where they had excesses and
getting them there at significant expenses. Until very recently on top of the costs of travel, it cost 3 days stay at around $1000 in a selected
quarantine Hotel, then 11 days quarantine at a site (usually a cheaper hotel)selected by the traveler, and three expensive tests costing about another
$900. My daughter just go back from flying down and getting hers in Utah 2 weeks ago |
Blame Canadian government who failed to procure any vaccine until March and have been unable to manufacture it in Canada. They fell behind many 3rd
world countries when it came to vaccination. As we are heading into the 3rd year of the pandemic, I wonder whether they have learned the lesson.
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"The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today (July 27/21) announced that with its most recent shipment, Canada has now received more than 66 million
doses of COVID-19 vaccines – enough to fully vaccinate every eligible person in Canada – two months ahead of the original goal of September.
This milestone in the largest immunization campaign in Canada’s history is the result of a proactive procurement approach, focused on building a
diverse vaccine portfolio. As vaccines were authorized by Health Canada, the government remained engaged with vaccine suppliers to speed up delivery
schedules and get as many doses into the country as quickly as possible. Canada continues to be a world leader in vaccination rates, with over 80 per
cent of eligible people in the country vaccinated with their first dose and approximately 64 per cent fully vaccinated.
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2021/07/27/canada-reaches-major-vaccine-campaign-milestone
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by motoged]
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Slightly of topic but relevant...
We run a laboratory in La Paz and do covid tests. Over the past 2 weeks, over 1/2 of the gringos being tested for their flights home are testing
positive. Everyone of them came to Baja without getting vaccinated first! Brilliant!
Alwayss the first question after getting notice of being positive is, what do I do now since I can't fly home!? More brilliancy from idiots from the
states who chose to come down here without being protected and transmitting their WILL by not getting a simple life saving shot, on our people, and no
back up plan for when they can't fly back and infect their families and others because of whatever for or Hanity or Carlson has told them. Even the
Idiot Governor from Florida
Don't know what happens to them after they leave the lab. They can't board a flight. Probably have no plans for housing.
My guess is these a-holes just continue to run amuck in BCS and infect us all down here. Pathetic POS“s.
PLEASE, if you are one of these antivaxers, Please don't come down here now and spread what you ignore at home. Just keep it up there where you all
obviously want to keep the virus alive and well
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More disinformation.
DeSantis is vaccinated - J&J. He tells ppl to get the vaccine. He tells them that its the best protection possible. And he's gone to great
lengths to get it to ppl, especially seniors.
His take is the govt. isn't going to lock ppl down from working or going to school. And requiring / wearing a mask is the choice of businesses and
individuals.
Stop watching so much CNN.
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by JZ]
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And as a follow up for the less educated...What happens here as an example is a big fat sob republican anti vaxer come down to go fishing. They sit in
the cabin because its really hot and the hired crew goes and hooks a fish for them. They take a photo and claim its theirs. Or ********** others who
feel its their choice not to get vaccinated and travel Baja because they don't feel like its necessary to get a vaccine in order to protect the taco
stand lady and their families. Mean while they pass on their covid to the working crew who then pass it on to their unvaccinated families ( remember,
we aren't vaccinated yet as we have little to go around). Grandma with HTN, diabetes and a slew of other things gets sic and takes up a hospital bed
for weeks and probably dies. Mean while exposing all.
Is it that hard to figure out folks?
Sorry but I'm a little peeed about the selfish people who don't want to participate in ridding me of My Mask! I am tired of wearing this thing!
If not for everyone else, please get a vaccine or wear a mask for me
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by BajaNomad]
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JZ, I do watch your news source for about a 1/2 hour a day divided into small doses until I can't take it anymore. It is completely disgusting and
talk about misinformation..... Go to Florida and please not here!
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| Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson | | JZ, I do watch your news source for about a 1/2 hour a day divided into small doses until I can't take it anymore. It is completely disgusting and
talk about misinformation..... Go to Florida and please not here! |
Be careful not to get sent to the cornfield.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson | Slightly of topic but relevant...
We run a laboratory in La Paz and do covid tests. Over the past 2 weeks, over 1/2 of the gringos being tested for their flights home are testing
positive. Everyone of them came to Baja without getting vaccinated first!
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More disinformation.
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JZ
What disinformation? Are you suggesting CM is not being honest?
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson | Slightly of topic but relevant...
We run a laboratory in La Paz and do covid tests. Over the past 2 weeks, over 1/2 of the gringos being tested for their flights home are testing
positive. Everyone of them came to Baja without getting vaccinated first!
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More disinformation.
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What disinformation? Are you suggesting CM is not being honest? |
Dude lives in LP. He knows what’s going on.
What I want to know. What happens to positive tested gringoes trying to fly home?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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I agree with CM's post except for the incorrect statement re DeSantis. Great first hand stuff from CM and it's troubling. Have updated my comment
to clarify.
[Edited on 8-5-2021 by JZ]
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motoged
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | I agree with CM's post except for the incorrect statement re DeSantis. Have updated my comment.
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Uh, you cleaned up your statement accusing him of providing disinformation? Your post still accuses CM of spreading disinformation
So....your blanket statement would be considered disinformation.
Clean-up on aisles j-z 
[Edited on 8-4-2021 by motoged]
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A couple of questions for charliemanson....
Is it correct that a negative test, or medical proof of recovery from covid19 is required for boarding a flight (a shot record is not good enough)?
Are any people with covid19 vaccinations showing up with positive test results?
Do you have any way of knowing if any of the people with positive tests have symptoms of infection?
What is your impression of the accuracy of the tests, as far as false positive, or negative results?
Thank you for sharing your first hand information!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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That is an interesting question about what happens to gringos who test positive before flying home.
Someone in my own family tested positive for Covid on Monday and had plans to move to Minnesota tomorrow. Guess what? They’re still moving. Jumping
in the uhaul with their Mom and driving to Minnesota to infect others along the way and upon arrival. Complete and utter selfishness right? Or what
do you call that? Low IQ?
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Maybe they could get on a crowded bus for a 20-hour trip back to the border. 
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