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John Harper
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This seems like a sensible idea:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/27/opinion/electric-car-batt...
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | Solar and wind are great for home use. Solar and wind are not good for powering the grid as they are terribly expensive and do massive damage to the
Earth.
Germany is in for a very bad winter because they shut down fossil fuels, turned away from nuclear, tried to use wind/solar, and built up reliance on
Russian oil.
This is a cautionary tale for the US.
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so - let me get this straight:
You are very concerned about solar and wind for the grid are bad because they do "massive damage to the earth"? - but extracting processing and
burning fossil fuels does not?
and you better check your stats on prices of energy by renewable vrs fossil - because thats not the data i'm seeing?
and a brief history / climatological lesson for you, most of Europe, as well as the northern USA BTW traditionally did not put in AC - because it
was not needed.
But guess what - with climate change - all of a sudden, its needed. My place in Northern Mich never had AC - didn't need it, but when it came
time to update/ replace the propane powered furnace - the obvious choice was to switch to a heat pump. It was cheaper than replacing the whole
furnace system, PLUS it gives me AC in the summer and Heat in the winter.
and BTW Germany is actually using this Russian Crisis to accelerate their solar and wind programs, so they are not dependent on foreign oil!
I will give you a bit of credit JZ - I, like you, think Nuclear is a part of the solution - as the problems associated with it are much more
manageable and and addressable - particularly intriguing with the breeder reactor systems - but they are ungodly expensive to build!
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‘You Want an Electric Car With a 300-Mile Range? When Was the Last Time You Drove 300 Miles?”
I probably drive 300+ miles minimum 10+ days per year…
I want to go all electric, need a solution!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
‘You Want an Electric Car With a 300-Mile Range? When Was the Last Time You Drove 300 Miles?”
I probably drive 300+ miles minimum 10+ days per year…
I want to go all electric, need a solution!
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Do you drive 300 miles without buying gasoline?
I never drive 300 miles in one shot. On my twice-annual road trips, I stop after about 200 miles max to gas up and stretch my legs. I'm seldom in such
a hurry that I couldn't spend more time filling up with electricity instead of gasoline. Especially if there were an Electron Drive-In Burger joint
where I could enjoy a Megavolt Double-Double and Faraday Fries while zapping the car.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
‘You Want an Electric Car With a 300-Mile Range? When Was the Last Time You Drove 300 Miles?”
I probably drive 300+ miles minimum 10+ days per year…
I want to go all electric, need a solution!
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Do you drive 300 miles without buying gasoline?
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Yes. My truck easily does 600+ miles with 36 gal gas tank.
Woke!
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Well, I didn't ask how many miles you get on a tank of gas, I asked how many miles you drive without stopping to buy gas. if you want to drive 600
miles without stopping then a BEV is not in your future.
Or, you could stop once in a while and charge up. Of course.
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Guys,
An electric car with 300 miles range won’t go 300 miles between charges! Common sense dictates 20% reserve electric or gas. So 240 miles is safe.
240 miles won’t get you to the first charger south of San Felipe. That’s why we bought a plug hybrid with a 900KM range. Gas in SF, gas at the
28th, gas at Loreto, gas at La Paz! We charge at home south of SF, charge in San Ignacio, charge at Loreto or La Paz we average 30+ KM/L
Remember we actually do the US to Todos Santos drive in a plug hybrid!
If I can’t drive it to Todos Santos I can’t use it.
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Well, as this article points out, there will always be a few people "at the end of the bell curve" so to speak. So you will be in the minority.
Even if only 10% of vehicles are ICE, that's a 90% reduction, right?
Remember how clear skies got during the worldwide covid lockdowns over China and other industrial areas? We saw the effects in real time, and
relatively quickly. How quickly that has been forgotten as well.
Like the song says Goatster, "You Can't Always Get What You Want."
John
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Goat,
Drove to Cabo lately?
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I only really drive 300+ on my summer fishing trips to the Sierra and Wyoming the last few years. So, maybe one long excursion. It's about 800 miles
from Carlsbad to southwest Wyoming. It's realistically two days drive.
I find 350-400 miles a day is about as much "windshield time" as I care for as well. So, that kind of range would really not require much change in
my driving habits. An EV might work out fine for me.
Now, driving into the backcountry for a few days might be an issue, although much slower speeds on FS roads might be more battery efficient, IDK.
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funny how the anti EV group never change. 5 years ago they were all lamenting the 100 mile range was a deal breaker.
so now its the 300 mile - never work for them
so whats their excuse when the 500 - 700 mile range vehicles come out in the next few years?
Yu guys really need to get proactive - you need to come up with new excuses and reasons now - so you actually may have something constructive to say
- when ranges exceed 600 miles on a charge.
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cwj13,
I’m Conservative and have owned EVs. They’re great for short trips. Thw reason we have a PHEV is range not politics! Tesla has a few destination
chargers in Baja. Some even work. I have an adaptor to use some destination chargers with my PHEV. 400 miles is probably the minimum range necessary
to drive to Cabo. Even then you need to know the secret places to charge.
Range and fuel not politics are the issues we use our PHEV as an EV around Todos Santos because we can charge it off our solar.
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Not that it will change anyone's mind, but I have a couple of dear friends who take their Tesla on roadtrips every year, including up to BC and back
with nary a problem with recharging. They also have solar to recharge their ev at home. They just got back from a west coast trip to Canada and back
and spent zero dollars on gasoline. That future is now.
Baja charging stations will catch up. I saw a couple of spaces at a hotel in GN, Hotel Sal, three years ago and would bet there are more now at other
hotels. If anyone can add to the list of chargers anywhere in Baja, please do.
Antonio's in EL Rosario would be a great location before that 200 mile Valle de Cirios stretch to top off the batteries. Antonio has been ahead of the
curve in many other ways which we all can appreciate. I'm sure he will provide charging if he is not already doing so.
Grabbing a bite at Momma's would be a great time to recharge if the day comes when an EV could be possible and Baja has the chargers to encourage not
ever having to buy another gallon of gasoline again.
Imagine that. Never buying another gallon of gas. I hope to live long enough to see this become a non-factor everywhere. There are a couple of other
non-related issues that I am happy to have lived long enough to see come to fruition. I have to thank my genes for keeping me around this long and may
those genes keep on doing their thing for another couple of decades. Baja is the stuff many of our dreams are made of and from. Peace and love is rare
these days, but we need all we can get.
This missive has been as non-partisan as I can manage, but I bet that will not last long with some here who cannot resist the impulse to interject
their point of view. Speech is still free in most places, but it is being compromised and you darn well know it. Sharia is alive and well for the
time being in the States. Have at it.
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The Rivan R1S is the one I'd get first. It's pretty bad ass. 600 to 835hp. Wife's SUV is getting pretty long in the tooth.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Me inside the Kremlin next to to the Tsar’s Cannon. (The Russian love of big artillery goes back a long way)
Perhaps the 1st SX-70 picture ever taken there.
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That is soo cool. When was this? Why were you there?
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | The Rivan R1S is the one I'd get first. It's pretty bad ass. 600 to 835hp. Wife's SUV is getting pretty long in the tooth.
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Rivian is too expensive. It is part of the fad of over priced luxury e cars. Such cars are for posers with more money than sense.
You can buy 2 hybrid highlanders for price of 1 rivian suv.
I got my eye on the e bus by vw. Can buy 2 busses for price of 1 rivian suv.
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One person's freedom of speech should not be used to cancel someone else's!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Rivian SUV was only 65,000 when it was in pre-order stage, so was a very good price at the time considering the performance and utility features.
They've been raising prices since. Try to find a gas SUV equipped similarly that can do what it can for that price.
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A $40K Toyota Highlander doesn't match up? What can the Rivian do it can't. I don't really know much about Rivians.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
A $40K Toyota Highlander doesn't match up? What can the Rivian do it can't. I don't really know much about Rivians. |
It's like the difference between a Lexus and Toyota.
Telsa's interiors leave a lot to be desired. Rivian is going for a higher end inside. I'm guessing the specs are better as well, but that's just a
guess. For example the Rivain can go 0-60 in 3 seconds.
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