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AKgringo
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I agree, Ralph Nadar killed them! I have to admit that I did experience an unexpected 360 while riding shotgun in a friend's Corvair.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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TMW
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Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  | | Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | yeah Fords been known to recycle model names...my mexican buddy's ride is a thoroughly rusted out behemoth of a mid 60's F-series truck badged
"Ranger"
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Yep, I remember the Ranger models of F series trucks.
Somehow, I think the name "Ford Pinto" has been cast into the dustbin of history. Along with the Edsel.
John
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I had a Ford Pinto in the late 70s. It didn't explode on me, but it did chew up and spit out a transmission like a piece of bad tobacco.
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Hey don't be picking on FORD Pintos. I had one and loved it.
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John Harper
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This morning in NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/30/business/economy/electric...
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weight of Nissan Leaf battery: 303 kg
weight of Rivian battery: 1755 kg
less is more
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No sane person wants a mine in their back yard. It ruins the neighborhood for generations, and history shows that the reclamation often never gets
done because the money is all gone when the mine shuts down,… meaning 99/100 mines leave a mess at the end. History has shown that reclamation is
all talk, no action.
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | yeah Fords been known to recycle model names...my mexican buddy's ride is a thoroughly rusted out behemoth of a mid 60's F-series truck badged
"Ranger"
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Yep, I remember the Ranger models of F series trucks.
Somehow, I think the name "Ford Pinto" has been cast into the dustbin of history. Along with the Edsel.
John
[Edited on 8-29-2022 by John Harper] |
I had a Ford Pinto in the late 70s. It didn't explode on me, but it did chew up and spit out a transmission like a piece of bad tobacco.
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Hey don't be picking on FORD Pintos. I had one and loved it. |
Ditto
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AKgringo
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
No sane person wants a mine in their back yard. meaning 99/100 mines leave a mess at the end. History has shown that reclamation is all talk, no
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The Usibelli coal mine near Healy Alaska is a shining exception! I worked on a construction project there in 1982, and even then they were committed
to being a good neighbor, and steward of the environment.
Their reclamation of the area being mined when I was there is complete, and today you would not believe it was ever mined. Care has been taken so
that river system that drains the mine area has not been damaged by run off silt.
There is a coal fired power plant at the edge of the mine which ties directly into the power grid. It is right by the railroad that is used to ship
coal to a seaport in Prince William sound.
Ironically, the power plant with an extremely efficient source of supply is going to be phased out and replaced with renewable sources. I don't know
how that will work out during the long, dark, frozen winter, but the plan is to start work in 2025.
It probably won't hurt their bottom line, since instead of burning coal at the plant, they will ship it to Fairbanks, Asia, and South America.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
No sane person wants a mine in their back yard. It ruins the neighborhood for generations, and history shows that the reclamation often never gets
done because the money is all gone when the mine shuts down,… meaning 99/100 mines leave a mess at the end. History has shown that reclamation is
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We all know that, Chicken Little Goat. Nothing is perfect, but we all seem to realize things can't stay the same. You always seem to be the "poop"
in the ice cream. Must be an aggravating life to always look at the downside of everything.
John
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JZ
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Never trust the NYTs.
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SFandH
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Nickel, cobalt, manganese, lithium.
Cobalt is the most expensive element and battery manufacturers are finding ways to substitute other elements.
But..........
"If batteries are to be made without cobalt, researchers will face an unintended consequence. The metal is the main factor that makes recycling
batteries economical, because other materials, especially lithium, are currently cheaper to mine than to recycle."
Reducing the use of scarce metals — and recycling them — will be key to the world’s transition to electric vehicles.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02222-1
[Edited on 8-30-2022 by SFandH]
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I actually believe in climate change, because of course the climate changes. I'm just skeptical that humans are the ones causing it and not nature
itself. For example the earth doesn't orbit the Sun in the same exact path every time. It slightly changes over time.
Let's pretend humans are the cause though. What exactly am I supposed to do about it? Dumping my non-hybrid car that gets 44 mpg for an electric car
isn't going to do anything. Maybe when they ground all of the jet airplanes that use 5 gallons of fuel every mile, I'll start to listen. Or maybe when
the people that preach this stuff start using EV's cross country and quit flying altogether I might be more inclined to listen. Problem is no one
seems to want to live the lives they want to impose on everyone else in the name of "Climate Change".
My challenge to people on this board that believe in climate change and want to make a difference would be to quit flying to Cabo or anywhere else.
Lead by example. Of course I doubt that will ever happen, because complaining about it on the internet to make yourselves feel good is easier.
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SFandH
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Salton Sea - Lithium Boomtown?
"A Lithium Rush Is On at California's Salton Sea: Who Are the Players?"
"Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway is one of the "prospectors" in California's Lithium Valley."
https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/06/08/berkshire-hathaway...
More info about Salton Sea lithium.
https://www.google.com/search?q=salton+sea+lithium
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Don Pisto
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AMLO had a deadline of last week of august to build his state run company to oversee all things lithium....anyone hear if it happened?
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
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| Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | | AMLO had a deadline of last week of august to build his state run company to oversee all things lithium....anyone hear if it happened?
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Here's something:
"MEXICO CITY, Aug 23 (Reuters) - Mexico, which nationalized lithium resources in April, has created a state-run company to mine the metal, President
Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said in a decree issued in the national gazette Tuesday afternoon.
The company will be called Litio para Mexico, or Lithium for Mexico, the decree read, and will begin operations within the next six months."
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/mexico-creates-stat...
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Even "if" man could make a difference:
- Until China, India, Russia and a whole bunch of others decide to play along, nothing the US does will make a dent.
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Peewee,
Think global, act local.
Once the tech for sustainable/green energy becomes better, the less Developed countries will adopt it. Oil won’t last forever, we will need to have
alternative energy sources someday,… why not work on it now?
You gonna just be an ostrich (a short one) and stick your head in the sand?
[Edited on 9-1-2022 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
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RFClark
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Goat,
Yesterday the California Grid Authority warned everyone that unless they used less electricity there would be rolling blackouts just like in La Paz!
They specifically asked electric car owners not to charge during the flex-alerts. Currently less than 4% of the cars and almost none of the trucks in
CA are electric. You do the math if even half of the cars are electric.
Speaking of electric trucks, the Los Cabos Ford dealer has one of the electric Ford delivery trucks for sale. Don’t look for it in the US cause you
can’t buy it there!
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Thousands of Xcel customers locked out of thermostats during 'energy emergency' as temperatures soared.
22,000 people lost control of temperatures in their homes for hours Tuesday
DENVER — During the dog days of summer, it's important to keep your home cool. But when thousands of Xcel customers in Colorado tried adjusting
their thermostats Tuesday, they learned they had no control over the temperatures in their own homes.
Temperatures climbed into the 90s Tuesday, which is why Tony Talarico tried to crank up the air conditioning in his partner's Arvada home.
"I mean, it was 90 out, and it was right during the peak period," Talarico said. "It was hot."
That's when he saw a message on the thermostat stating the temperature was locked due to an "energy emergency."
"Normally, when we see a message like that, we're able to override it," Talarico said. "In this case, we weren't. So, our thermostat was locked in at
78 or 79."
[Edited on 9-1-2022 by JZ]
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Remember what some in this thread have been saying about giving up control?
Thousands of Xcel customers locked out of thermostats during 'energy emergency' as temperatures soared.
22,000 people lost control of temperatures in their homes for hours Tuesday
DENVER — During the dog days of summer, it's important to keep your home cool. But when thousands of Xcel customers in Colorado tried adjusting
their thermostats Tuesday, they learned they had no control over the temperatures in their own homes.
Temperatures climbed into the 90s Tuesday, which is why Tony Talarico tried to crank up the air conditioning in his partner's Arvada home.
"I mean, it was 90 out, and it was right during the peak period," Talarico said. "It was hot."
That's when he saw a message on the thermostat stating the temperature was locked due to an "energy emergency."
"Normally, when we see a message like that, we're able to override it," Talarico said. "In this case, we weren't. So, our thermostat was locked in at
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Camaroncito,
Has it crossed your mind this might be used when overloading the system is at risk? It's not Big Brother Biden or the evil liberal cabal trying to
control your life. I'd bet ($10 okay with you?) the executives at Xcel are probably Republicans as well. The CEO is a former Goldman Sachs
employee, hardly a nest of commie subversives.
https://co.my.xcelenergy.com/s/about/leadership/bob-frenzel
I'll PM my address so you can send me my $10, loser.
Your consistent "bomb throwing" gets tired.
Can't you just grow up from being such a troll? Or, find another forum to be a pain in the ass?
John
[Edited on 9-1-2022 by John Harper]
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pacificobob
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Bingo john. tiresome indeed
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
Yesterday the California Grid Authority warned everyone that unless they used less electricity there would be rolling blackouts just like in La Paz!
They specifically asked electric car owners not to charge during the flex-alerts. Currently less than 4% of the cars and almost none of the trucks in
CA are electric. You do the math if even half of the cars are electric.
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Clarkie,
Brown outs are common during heat waves, world wide. Not just a california problem.
Electric vehicle numbers will grow, electric capacity will grow. Will there be growing pains? Perhaps!
Woke!
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