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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | Thousands of Xcel customers locked out of thermostats during 'energy emergency' as temperatures soared.
22,000 people lost control of temperatures in their homes for hours Tuesday
DENVER — During the dog days of summer, it's important to keep your home cool. But when thousands of Xcel customers in Colorado tried adjusting
their thermostats Tuesday, they learned they had no control over the temperatures in their own homes.
Temperatures climbed into the 90s Tuesday, which is why Tony Talarico tried to crank up the air conditioning in his partner's Arvada home.
"I mean, it was 90 out, and it was right during the peak period," Talarico said. "It was hot."
That's when he saw a message on the thermostat stating the temperature was locked due to an "energy emergency."
"Normally, when we see a message like that, we're able to override it," Talarico said. "In this case, we weren't. So, our thermostat was locked in at
78 or 79."
[Edited on 9-1-2022 by JZ] |
Pee wee,
The affected customers had voluntarily signed up for the program. Customers receive financial compensation, but give up some control so system
operator can make the system more reliable.
This was first time in 6 years that customers lost some control on a hot day.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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RFClark: Nice to see we can finally buy at least one modern full electric vehicle in Baja. I would think a full electric Maverick 4 by 4 might be the
best for us. Roads have gotten so bad, the contractors are now commonly getting us to drive to the end of pavement and bring them the last few miles
as they are consistently getting bogged down with FWD
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Lencho,
Based on 3 miles/KW that’s 6.5 cents per mile. Gas is at least 20 cents per mile and we have solar charging which is free!
Goat,
Be carful not to set anything on fire while you defend the indefensible by candle light. 25% of California’s electricity comes from those other
states and countries.
That would be a big short fall when you really need it. I’ve got off grid solar so suck it up cause your solar probably won’t work without a grid
tie.
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mtgoat666
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How is ag doing in Baja?
In usa, the current drought/climate change has hammered ag:
The summer drought's hefty toll on American crops
https://www.yahoo.com/news/summer-droughts-hefty-toll-americ...
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Goat,
It’s raining here. Mangos are great. Vegetables are great. Prices are great. Temperature is in the 70’s at night. What’s not to like?
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | The Rivan R1S is the one I'd get first. It's pretty bad ass. 600 to 835hp. Wife's SUV is getting pretty long in the tooth.
[Edited on 8-28-2022 by JZ] |
Rivian is too expensive. It is part of the fad of over priced luxury e cars. Such cars are for posers with more money than sense.
You can buy 2 hybrid highlanders for price of 1 rivian suv.
I got my eye on the e bus by vw. Can buy 2 busses for price of 1 rivian suv. |
On that note,
None of these transportation options are for the poor.
Nice when your part of the Over developed world…..
Has anyone seen the plans for poor remote locations to make it without petroleum?
Lionel 
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Welp, California has their work cut out for them if they want to meet the EV quotas. Read that 21 new nuclear plants will have to come online.
[Edited on 9-7-2022 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | The Rivan R1S is the one I'd get first. It's pretty bad ass. 600 to 835hp. Wife's SUV is getting pretty long in the tooth.
[Edited on 8-28-2022 by JZ] |
Rivian is too expensive. It is part of the fad of over priced luxury e cars. Such cars are for posers with more money than sense.
You can buy 2 hybrid highlanders for price of 1 rivian suv.
I got my eye on the e bus by vw. Can buy 2 busses for price of 1 rivian suv. |
On that note,
None of these transportation options are for the poor.
Nice when your part of the Over developed world…..
Has anyone seen the plans for poor remote locations to make it without petroleum?
Lionel |
Let them eat cake??
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
Harald Pietschmann
"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
Bajazly, August 2019
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | The Rivan R1S is the one I'd get first. It's pretty bad ass. 600 to 835hp. Wife's SUV is getting pretty long in the tooth.
[Edited on 8-28-2022 by JZ] |
Rivian is too expensive. It is part of the fad of over priced luxury e cars. Such cars are for posers with more money than sense.
You can buy 2 hybrid highlanders for price of 1 rivian suv.
I got my eye on the e bus by vw. Can buy 2 busses for price of 1 rivian suv. |
On that note,
None of these transportation options are for the poor.
Nice when your part of the Over developed world…..
Has anyone seen the plans for poor remote locations to make it without petroleum?
Lionel |
In the course of history technological advances have rolled out to the poor and rural areas.
How did the poor and rural ever get automobiles? Electricity? Refrigeration? Telephones? Facebook?
Don’t worry, be happy, patience grasshopper.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Welp, California has their work cut out for them if they want to meet the EV quotas. Read that 21 bew nuclear plants will have to come online.
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Pee wee zee:
Shortages are momentary problems. shortage of toilet paper during early days of covid never stopped you from chitting, did it?
You will find a way to deal with it!
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I can't take you seriously after that comment.
Maybe the worst analogy I've heard in my lifetime.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly | | Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | The Rivan R1S is the one I'd get first. It's pretty bad ass. 600 to 835hp. Wife's SUV is getting pretty long in the tooth.
[Edited on 8-28-2022 by JZ] |
Rivian is too expensive. It is part of the fad of over priced luxury e cars. Such cars are for posers with more money than sense.
You can buy 2 hybrid highlanders for price of 1 rivian suv.
I got my eye on the e bus by vw. Can buy 2 busses for price of 1 rivian suv. |
On that note,
None of these transportation options are for the poor.
Nice when your part of the Over developed world…..
Has anyone seen the plans for poor remote locations to make it without petroleum?
Lionel |
Let them eat cake?? |
Exactly. The State of Arizona is about to destroy a square mile or section of trees next to my section to feed a “ renewable energy “ biomass
plant in Snowflake Az. The State has a right to do with its property what’s within the law but some of the things done in the name of renewable
energy can be deceiving.
The heavy equipment used will no doubt be diesels and the resulting damage to that oxygen producing ecosystem will be long lasting. It all started
here as a way to thin the forest to reduce intensity of wildfires but now in some remote areas they’re clear cutting. Biomass is profitable for the
operators.
I’m all for new or cleaner energy but the world will be using petroleum products until that transition comes to fruition.
One way out is using less and procreating less but we keep trying to come up with alternatives so we can continue down our path without change to our
consumer lifestyles.
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Check out Planet of the Humans on YouTube
##### WARNING ##### in the end of the film Orangutan are hurt while clear cutting the forest.
It covers the Biomass and other “ renewable energy “ in the United States and the profiteers and environmental groups in on it.
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Goat,
The rural US was electrified as a result of the REA 1936 which allowed rural households to buy electric rather than gas refrigerators. This
contributed to the downfall of Servel the major producer of non-electric refrigerators in the US.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
The rural US was electrified as a result of the REA 1936 which allowed rural households to buy electric rather than gas refrigerators. This
contributed to the downfall of Servel the major producer of non-electric refrigerators in the US. |
but it didn't lead to more production and new companies producing electric appliances? I guess your right, the economy nosedived when this happened
- and never recovered.
same thing happened with all the wagon producers got squeezed out by the new fangled automobile becoming popular. a whole bunch of wagon maker
craftsmen lost their jobs - never ever to recover - and the US economy when Tango Uniform - and we've been in recession since then - a sad
cautionary tale for sure!
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
The rural US was electrified as a result of the REA 1936 which allowed rural households to buy electric rather than gas refrigerators. This
contributed to the downfall of Servel the major producer of non-electric refrigerators in the US. |
but it didn't lead to more production and new companies producing electric appliances? I guess your right, the economy nosedived when this happened
- and never recovered.
same thing happened with all the wagon producers got squeezed out by the new fangled automobile becoming popular. a whole bunch of wagon maker
craftsmen lost their jobs - never ever to recover - and the US economy when Tango Uniform - and we've been in recession since then - a sad
cautionary tale for sure! |
Those shifts didn't leave us dependent on China and other foreign nations for raw materials. Or push an electric grid that was already on the brink
of collapse.
Not sure if you saw what Russia just did to Germany this week. And Germany was clearly warned to not put their energy security at risk. But they
didn't listen.
No one is against EVs. It just needs to be done the appropriate way.
[Edited on 9-7-2022 by JZ]
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JZ,
Servel gas/propane refrigerators were made in Indiana (over 3 million). Currently the only home refrigerators, that I know of, made in the US are
Amish made gas refrigerators. All of the others, electric and gas are made elsewhere.
Adsorption refrigerators are great in cool climates as they keep food cold and warm the house. The CO problem when using propane is overrated! That
said they stop working at 90 degrees ambiant!
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Propane refrigerators made in the US:
https://www.ezfreezerefrigerator.com/propane-refrigerators/
I have 3 propane fridges. A tall one in the trailer, and two 1/2 sized ones recovered from RVs. We keep one of the small ones on the patio full of
brewskis, the other is backup, just in case.
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Yes, I believe those are the ones built by the Amish. They don’t like electricity but D cells are ok. We had one 20 years ago they were great. 40+
plus years ago we had a couple of Servels on the ranch. (Before all night electricity!) they were cheap and easy to convert to propane.
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I had a kerosene fridge in Central America. Used about a liter@day.
It would often freeze the contents if not monitored.
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