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SFandH
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29 Aug 2021 - Active Cases in Hospital
50% increase in BC in the past 10 days.
Slight decrease in BCS
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BC - Comisión Estatal de Servicios Públicos de Tijuana -
https://m.facebook.com/CesptOficial/
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
Note: There's a break in the data between fall 2020 and spring 2021. That's when I'm on the beach on Bahia Concepcion.
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Does anyone know if Regeneron is available at any hospitals in Baja.
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You might try a search for Monoclonal Antibodies as up here it is not, but similar alternatives from other suppliers such as Lily are. I think I saw
three separate ones listed. Good to be prepared if it's needed.
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  |
You might try a search for Monoclonal Antibodies as up here it is not, but similar alternatives from other suppliers such as Lily are. I think I saw
three separate ones listed. Good to be prepared if it's needed. |
I'm vaxxed. But if I get symptoms I'd very likely do this treatment asap. Still researching it.
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JDCanuck
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From NBC yesterday:
Dr. Anthony Fauci says monoclonal antibody treatments for Covid-19 are “underutilized” and can reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by up
to 85 percent. With hospitals filling up, Florida is opening up pop-up sites for the treatment and other states are using the antibodies in nursing
homes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/states-expanding-acc...
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JZ
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Good info.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | 29 Aug 2021 - Active Cases in Hospital
50% increase in BC in the past 10 days.
Slight decrease in BCS
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These tables are active cases. Meanwhile, daily cases in BCS have been dropping a lot: https://datos.covid-19.conacyt.mx/. If we disregard daily cases less than 14 days old (which we should), it has still been dropping since early
July.
Weird. If past experience is any indication, things will change - either BC will drop or BCS will go up. BC is mimicking the situation North of the
border, with some delay, so I wouldn't expect a drop soon.
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On the ground report from La Paz at our lab is showing no Gringo positive tests for those who are flying out.
It is probably a small sample, but a good trend nonetheless .
I find it funny that there are people who are all about trying to find a way of a Covid fix and just don't get the fact all Americans can just get a
shot and we can ALL be done with this problem. Personally, I hope the doubters just try other stuff and get Darwined. Just my opinion.
I can't say I know anybody with Polio, measles or any other disease we ALL have been vaccinated for. Unfortunately the US had a leader that made all
this, all about him and his sheep.
We went to the US a couple weeks ago and the contrast between there and here is remarkable.
There all fighting about vaccines, wearing a mask, what party do you support.... Here, everyone wants a vaccine, all (except a select gringos cruising
the malecon) wears a mask without question and all are actually afraid of transmitting covid to someone else.
An huge contrast to up north where all are in combat about wearing a mask or getting a shot.
Makes me feel really good about my decision to move here permanently. Might be a little hard with all that is happening, but at least I am surrounded
by people who care about one another and not all about their rights to not wear a mask.
Now Y“all just keep wearing your shoes in restaurants as we all have throughout our lives, wear a seatbelt and don't drive intoxicated as we all
reluctantly accept as normal as it not that big of a deal is it? And why not a mask as well?
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Charliemanson: I see Cabo current numbers have dropped off very well, but La Paz not so much. Any reason why, or do you think this is just a brief
pause. Numbers don't seem to be updated very frequently. If almost everyone over the approved age range is vaccinated and in addition everyone is
wearing masks, why is it refusing to go down faster? No one from outside our country who isn't double vaccinated is allowed in, is it not the same
there? Oh, and on the mask issue we have people at major stores refusing to allow entry unless you wear one, smaller ones they remind you if you don't
have one on. Our numbers are climbing as well, just not yet as bad as in La Paz, just wondering why.
Ideas?
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
If almost everyone over the approved age range is vaccinated ....and in addition everyone is wearing masks, why is it refusing to go down faster? No
one from outside our country who isn't double vaccinated is allowed in, is it not the same there?
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The NYT database is showing in Mexico 26% are fully vaxxed, 45% partially vaxxed. There are not enough vaccines in Mex to go around.
I think the largest group of tourists flying into La Paz and Los Cabos are Mexicans from the mainland. Summer is their vacation time. Northerners go
there mostly in the winter, except for game fishermen and other ocean enthusiasts like surfers and divers.
You don't need to be vaxxed to fly into Mex.
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| Quote: Originally posted by charliemanson |
I find it funny that there are people who are all about trying to find a way of a Covid fix and just don't get the fact all Americans can just get a
shot and we can ALL be done with this problem. Personally, I hope the doubters just try other stuff and get Darwined. Just my opinion.
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You are an evil and spiteful little man. Smdh at wishing ill on others. No wonder you named yourself after a murderer. Pitiful.
Even if you are vaxxed you can still get sick. And doing a monoclonal antibody treatment at the early signs of symptoms may very well be a good idea.
It is important for ppl to be aware of on it here, especially those at risk. That is why we are discussing it.
So pipe down and change your user name. That is my "opinion."
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
If almost everyone over the approved age range is vaccinated ....and in addition everyone is wearing masks, why is it refusing to go down faster? No
one from outside our country who isn't double vaccinated is allowed in, is it not the same there?
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The NYT database is showing in Mexico 26% are fully vaxxed, 45% partially vaxxed. There are not enough vaccines in Mex to go around.
I think the largest group of tourists flying into La Paz and Los Cabos are Mexicans from the mainland. Summer is their vacation time. Northerners go
there mostly in the winter, except for game fishermen and other ocean enthusiasts like surfers and divers.
You don't need to be vaxxed to fly into Mex.
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I thought I saw a recent claim by the governor that over 80% of the people in Baja were vaccinated, was that not correct? Maybe the vaccinations are
breaking down like they are up here to Delta.
The idea that mainly Mexicans visit Baja in the summer makes sense.
Maybe the vaccinations they had were not as effective as well, when i saw the data on the vaccinations used they were a whole lot of the poorer
efficacy ones
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SFandH
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That might have been the governor of BC, the northern state. I read he said 70% back in July but I don't believe it. Mexicali, TJ, Rosarito, and
Ensenada started offering 2nd shots just a few weeks ago and are prohibiting first shots. Many BC citizens are requesting first shots in various FB
groups I read.
Officials in BC are anxious for the Americans to lift travel restrictions on northbound travel. Could be the reason for exaggeration.
Plus, my point (guessing) was a lot of Mex travelers into BCS are un-vaxxed Mexicans mixing it up at the resorts and in town infecting themselves and
un-vaxxed residents.
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JDCanuck
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SF&H; Right i had thought of that after posting. Fingers ahead of the brain disease
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I read an interesting article about vaccine effectiveness in Israel.
While it seems to be waning, that is because we are comparing a predominantly young unvaccinated population with a predominantly older vaccinated
population.
https://salthillstatistics.com/posts/109
If we breakdown by age and rates per 100k the vaccine appears to be doing its job.
I also find rhe university of Washington covid prediction model of baja sur to be very encouraging.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/mexico/baja-california-sur?vi...
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Vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization drops, CDC says
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/coronavirus-delta...
The COVID-19 vaccines' ability to keep people out of the hospital appears to be dropping slightly, particularly for those 75 and older, the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention announced Monday during an advisory panel.
The CDC has previously estimated that 97% of people in the hospital being treated for COVID-19 are unvaccinated, but that data was collected before
the spread of delta, a hyper-transmissible variant that many doctors have warned appears to be making people sicker.
The latest CDC analysis estimates that the ability of the COVID vaccines to keep a person out of the hospital is now between 75% to 95%.
For people older than 75 in particular, vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization experienced the steepest decline, from more than 90% to 80%
between June and July.
Health experts are also concerned that a person’s immunity could be waning over time, particularly among older people whose bodies are less likely
than younger people to develop a strong immune response to the vaccines.
However, the vaccine still remain highly effective at preventing serious illness, according to the briefing.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | 29 Aug 2021 - Active Cases in Hospital
50% increase in BC in the past 10 days.
Slight decrease in BCS
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These tables are active cases. Meanwhile, daily cases in BCS have been dropping a lot: https://datos.covid-19.conacyt.mx/. If we disregard daily cases less than 14 days old (which we should), it has still been dropping since early
July.
Weird. If past experience is any indication, things will change - either BC will drop or BCS will go up. BC is mimicking the situation North of the
border, with some delay, so I wouldn't expect a drop soon. |
According to the NYT database as of today, in the past 14 days average daily cases in BCS have dropped 27% to 15 per 100,000. In BC they have
increased 15% to 5 per 100,000.
Overall in Mexico, there has been a 16% drop to 12 per 100,000 in the same time period.
In San Diego County it is 36 per 100,000 and the 14 day trend has been flat,
Overall in the US it is 48 per 100,000 with an increase of 12% over the same time period.
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One of the problems with posted vaccination rates is the media seems to like to post percentages by total population in most states, rather than by
eligible population, leading us to believe vaccination acceptance is far lower than it actually is. Last I looked, Mexico only had approved
vaccinations for those over 16, but it may be over 12 now.
When I look at the vaccination rates by groups, the elderly in seniors homes are over 95%, which is as high as we can expect given many may be
susceptible to strong reactions and advised by doctors not to be vaccinated
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[/rquote]
According to the NYT database as of today, in the past 14 days average daily cases in BCS have dropped 27% to 15 per 100,000. In BC they have
increased 15% to 5 per 100,000.
Overall in Mexico, there has been a 16% drop to 12 per 100,000 in the same time period.
[Edited on 8-31-2021 by SFandH][/rquote]
Based on that, BCS is still in a worse situation than BC, although slowly improving
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Yes, I added some more data for San Diego, US and Canada for comparison:
According to the NYT database as of today, in the past 14 days average daily cases in BCS have dropped 27% to 15 per 100,000. In BC they have
increased 15% to 5 per 100,000.
Overall in Mexico, there has been a 16% drop to 12 per 100,000 in the same time period.
In San Diego County it is 36 per 100,000 and the 14 day trend has been flat,
Overall in the US it is 48 per 100,000 with an increase of 12% over the same time period.
In Canada it's 9 per 100,000 with a 63% increase.
In BC Canada it's 15 per 100,000 with a 33% increase.
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