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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 05:24 PM


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On second thought my vote for A*hole of the month now goes to Fulano/a.


Anybody willing to make such a statement must be a canidate themself.

This board is amazing. Seems the double standard is alive and well. No wonder you love Mexico so much.:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 05:49 PM


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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 05:55 PM


PESCADOR, FULANO AND ELINSTI8:
YOU GUYS ARE HILARIOUS, AND BRING A LOT OF FUN TO THIS POST.
COULD YOU TALK TO WHOMEVER IS IN CHARGE OF OUR POSTS AND PUT IN A NEW FORUM SUGGESTION TITTLED"

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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 05:58 PM


Don't tell me. You don't like Canadians either?:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 06:20 PM


MEMO, I ASK AGAIN...WHY DID YOU JOIN THIS FORUM?

WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK WHEN WE HAVE THE SOAP BOX TOPIC?




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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 06:25 PM


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MEMO, I ASK AGAIN...WHY DID YOU JOIN THIS FORUM?

WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK WHEN WE HAVE THE SOAP BOX TOPIC?


Give it up UDO .... we have a soap box and it is called "off-topic"

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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 06:29 PM
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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 06:45 PM
Chilling on brain drain --


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The brain drain will continue forever, aided by the enablers, like Shari, who embrace the love it or leave it philosophy. I humbly suggest the real Mexico lovers are those with the guts to remain and seek positive change.


ALL this from a newbie less than a month old with 27 posts?

Some of your sage advice may fall on deaf ears when you start calling shari names.
You may have read a recent post by shari on this thread but you have NOT been around long enough to know her love of Mexico, or her family, or her Mexican citizenship status.

So, consider lurking awhile before making general and sweeping generalizations about Mexican issues and noMads posting here.

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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 06:53 PM


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Elizabeth, I know a bit about Stinson Beach. When I lived and went to school in San Francisco we would drive up there because it is a beautiful beach.

...... Stinson Beach: 94% caucasion, median income 100k, median home price 500k (sorry, your house is worth about half of what you claim) you connect the dots, you pick up the pieces.


Geezus. Eh, memo? You need to back up, regroup, and get a grip. What does your diatribe have to do with MX fatigue? Snobs in Marin County? YOU come across as a know-it-all knowing NOTHING about Elizabeth or Stinson Beach real estate.

So you lived in Mill Valley? You know NOTHING about people here and your broad-strokes about Baja are suspect.

If you want to discuss real estate in SoMa or Noe Valley, let me know u2u.




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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 07:29 PM
Keep on posting Memo


some of us on here still believe in hearing both sides, Negative or Positive, it's what makes a Forum what it is.
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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 08:09 PM
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This is my 28th post to this forum. I am a newbie. My name is Memo. I am a newbie. I admit I am a newbie. I have always been a newbie and even if I never post here again I shall remain a newbie.

I was born a newbie.

I will die a newbie.

But if I really try I may be able to help others, other newbies, and tell them about this forum. Warn them. Warn their children.

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[*] posted on 7-21-2008 at 09:00 PM


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some of us on here still believe in hearing both sides, Negative or Positive, it's what makes a Forum what it is.


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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 05:43 AM


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Quote:
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some of us on here still believe in hearing both sides, Negative or Positive, it's what makes a Forum what it is.


CENSURE YOURSELF NOT OTHERS ... FREE SPEECH !!!!!


One of your better posts showing there is still hope for you.:cool:
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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 11:57 AM


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This is my 28th post to this forum. I am a newbie. My name is Memo. I am a newbie. I admit I am a newbie. I have always been a newbie and even if I never post here again I shall remain a newbie.

I was born a newbie.

I will die a newbie.

But if I really try I may be able to help others, other newbies, and tell them about this forum. Warn them. Warn their children.

I, Memo, am a newbie


What's your point? All I see is a bunch of lamblasting of folks defending a place they love. You want them to shut up and stop that?

So you are trying to get the truth out? Then don't accept support from liars like the Palmster.

Well, at least you've got others to help you spread the bad word. Good job.................I guess.:rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 7-22-2008 at 01:00 PM


Been down Baja way a time or two. :) It's a special place. It gets better the further south you get from the border.:tumble: And even better when you take side trips east or west of Hwy 1.:biggrin: Hwy 5 is an adventure.:)When you get down to Cabo, it's time to turn around.:spingrin:
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[*] posted on 7-23-2008 at 04:18 PM


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On second thought my vote for A*hole of the month now goes to Fulano/a.


Anybody willing to make such a statement must be a canidate themself.

This board is amazing. Seems the double standard is alive and well. No wonder you love Mexico so much.:lol:



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[*] posted on 7-24-2008 at 01:16 PM


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After reading the recent posts on this forum, the back and forth about Mexico lovers vs mexico "haters" it seems to me the issue can partly be explained as Mexico Fatigue. A sort of ennui experienced by expats and frequent visitors to Mexico. Why, after all, can't the Mexicans pull it together and provide basic human rights, police protection, drinking water and gas piped to each residence, mail service and good education? Why can't the sewers accept toilet paper? Mexico is rich in natural resources and blessed with a hard working, ethical population. But it remains, at best, a third world country.

I believe most Americanos are simply bored with the failure of Mexico to live up to it's potential. We are tired of the excuses, i.e, "its their culture, learn to love it" and "if you don't like it, don't visit" etc.

When will Mexicans come to grips with reality? Why is the main street of every burg in Mexico named "avenida Revolucion" when the people don't seem to have the guts to actually conduct a revolution anymore? I''ve been visiting Mexico for fifty years and frankly I have grown weary of the excuses. There are many wonderful countries on this planet that have decided to honor human dignity and rights where the people live in freedom and grace. Why Mexico is not one of them can be argued all night. Many of us simply don't care anymore.


ok i was trying really hard to not post on this issue but you will have to understand me as it is my home country that you are talking about....first of all the fact that mexico is a third world country is one of the reasons that many people still come here!! after all why come if it was just another big city?? please please pleaaaaaaaaaaase don't tell us to get it together because (and this is not said to insult anyone) i know many mexican people that have it more put together than alot of tourists i have met in my short but full life time...i have been around tourists since i was born and thank God that most of them have been extremly nice people but there are also the not so nice ones. YES mexico is a third world country and who cares if it doesn't like toilet paper thrown down the sour pipes! i agree with what you said my mom said that if it's so third worl then....and i do not mean this as an insult...why bother coming here...and when you ask when will mexico come to grips with reality guess what pal this is our reality and yeah i will say get used to it and love it as it is, maybe it does have more potential and it is a very rich country but it is what it is and yes it is getting better but things take time as everyone knows on this board and yes they take more time in mexico, hey you want mexico to get better?? pay a poor childs school, get some one of the street, donate to schools and education, come and give a police seminar for all i care why do you want to make mexico in to a little U.S. it's not and i am sorry to disapoint you...i am aware that my words may sound agressive but to be completely sincere i am really sad and hurt and yes angry that you comment on things like that as if no one knew the situation mexico is in...i know as well as anyone that there is alot to do but the fact that you complain constantly and don't do anything is not going to help! the only thing you are going to get is people to really dislike you and i am truly sorry that i am beginning to be one of them. and please don't talk about mexican people not having guts when they work their butt's of every day to take a efw gains of rice home to their family, they take risks when the cross the boarder legal or not, they have the guts to make people like you feel at home in our country even when they know that alot of tourists will turn their backs and say oh stupid mexicans oh they don't even know how to read oh they don't have this or that...let me tell you that mexicans are the bravest people i knowand i am sure tons of people on this board will agree, they may not be rich and stuff like that but...the work through hard stuff evey day and i am proud to be a mexican..and to all the people that are true baja lovers and understand whta i am talking about please take no notice of my "agressive" words...i am sorry if i can not put this another way and i am sorry that baja nomad board has become a board where this kind of talk is present, i do not mean to offend you but this is how i feel...mexico and it's people may be poor and not have all the services you want but it has what it has and bless the people that understand that.




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[*] posted on 7-24-2008 at 01:34 PM
Thank You, SirRenta


Thank you for so eloquently making my point for me. I hope everyone on this message board reads your response.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2008 at 01:35 PM
I am a firm believer


that baja is in dire need of a much better educational system.

Until then I don't see much hope.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 7-24-2008 at 01:39 PM


From the lips of a child. The truth.:)
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