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| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
Yea, well, of course. Especially as that Austrian colaterol damage guy made CA bankcrupt.
I just learned that all companies working for the Gov. are getting no cash at all. Instead a paper which states that they will be paid later Kind of a
Goverment debt paper.
But what if Arnie can't get no money to pay the debt????.
California you got it better OF COURSE |
Well, let me help out all the people here with the short-term memory problems. First of all, California is no longer issuing the paper. That was a
short-term problem because the legislature could not pass a workable budget. By the way, are you aware that the "paper" bore interest at 3%? That is
three times the current interest rate on CD's.
Now as for the Governator, perhaps the senility factor here has caused a number of viejos here to forget that the financial problems in California
started with a Democratic governor named Grey Davis. In fact, Grey Davis was so incompetent that the People of the State of California kicked him out
of office before his term was up and put in the Governator. But before we could kick out Davis, he managed to screw up the finances. He signed onerous
contracts with unions, like the prison guards and others, that locked in the state to unbearable and unwarranted expenses for years into the future.
He bloated the state's payroll, and basically spent like a drunken sailor on leave, thereby hocking the entire future of the state for a few quick
jollies. Kind of like what the anointed one in Washington is doing to the rest of the country.
Well, you know what they say, "as California goes, so goes the nation."
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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The Baja Peninsula and Mulege, and lots of small towns like Mulege, are growing very fast. People say they want development. Well, then let see them
start with the basics. Mulege needs a sewage treatment plant. A nice modern state of the art 3 stage type that returns clean usable water. There is
enough population concentration both north and south, that it is an issue that needs addressed, head on,with a determined conviction, much sooner than
later. ++C++
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mulegemichael
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yeah....well.....good luck with the sewage treatment plant....i mean, why would you have a nice, 3 stage sewage treatment plant when you can have a
wonderful malecon along the river...what would YOU rather have?...priorities man, priorities.......think of the evenings along the waterfront....and i
KNOW i'm gonna be misunderstood here...dennis?...help please..
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Bob and Susan
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you can't really build a 3 stage sewage treatment plant when there is
ONLY 3100 people that live here in mulege...
the worst sewage offenders are the "snowbirds" in the winter
now if those firemen that keep delivering firetrucks
(there is several here)
would think about hydrants and
the source of the water for them...that would be nice
you really cant come to a place like this and think you'll change it
that just WON'T happen
accept it and enjoy life
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
yeah....well.....good luck with the sewage treatment plant....i mean, why would you have a nice, 3 stage sewage treatment plant when you can have a
wonderful malecon along the river...what would YOU rather have?...priorities man, priorities.......think of the evenings along the waterfront....and i
KNOW i'm gonna be misunderstood here...dennis?...help please.. |
I understand, Mike...for sure I do. Anyone with any kind of design sense has heard it before, "Function before beauty."
Good luck down there.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
To the contrary, Nancy. High unemployment should be a catalyst for immigration reform. |
Howie, I know you are calling me Nancy because you saw BajaGabacho, Dennis and Sharkbait call me that name. I know this because you have yet to post
an original thought here. I also realize you feel very brave and safe in your room with the curtains drawn, sitting in your underwear posting on the
Internet and eating that cold pizza.
But if you are going to continue to call me Nancy, then I am going to call you Loretta, in honor of the person who wears the pants in your family.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
now if those firemen that keep delivering firetrucks
(there is several here)
would think about hydrants and
the source of the water for them...that would be nice
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What a great idea 
Have the firetrucks pump sewage water on the fires 
Solves two problems at once
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
About all the checkpoints, army or otherwise. Let's just say that in the next few years, the cartel problem is solved, and the US implements a sane
immigration policy. Does anyone wish to put some odds on how much, if any of these obstacles will be removed?
[Edited on 8-12-2009 by Bajahowodd] |
Anybody know how effective these checkpoints actually are? I know plenty of backroads to get around them and I'm sure the drug runners do too...
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
About all the checkpoints, army or otherwise. Let's just say that in the next few years, the cartel problem is solved, and the US implements a sane
immigration policy. Does anyone wish to put some odds on how much, if any of these obstacles will be removed?
[Edited on 8-12-2009 by Bajahowodd] |
Anybody know how effective these checkpoints actually are? I know plenty of backroads to get around them and I'm sure the drug runners do too...
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As with most things the mexican gov't does it is all for show.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
Anybody know how effective these checkpoints actually are? I know plenty of backroads to get around them and I'm sure the drug runners do too...
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Checkpoints are there for the following reasons.....
Catch the stupid crooks (happens once in a while)
Keep the honest people honest
To get additional $$$ and equipment from the US....the equipment at those checkpoints (HMMWV - High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles , radios
and the MK-19 grenade launchers)
Give the military something to do
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baja Steve
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The problem is the new Mayor. they are trying to get him out
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baja Steve
The problem is the new Mayor. they are trying to get him out |
How do you know?
Is there any note in the Oregon papers about the Mulege mayor?????
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Well said David!!
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The drug cartel/ police/ military killings and occaisional rare tourist murder reports on flashed for months on U.S. news is the #1 reason for lack of
tourism (IMO).
The U.S. and global bad economy is the #2 reason (IMO).
False arrest/ traffic ticketing by Mexican police (mordida) is the #3 reason (IMO).
Taxing tourists (since mid 2000) for an FM-T hasn't been wise and doesn't help large families decide on a Mexico vacation, with US$20+ per person just
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I agree completely !!
If you make something idiot proof, someone will always make a better idiot.
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wessongroup
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brief history lesson
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by squid
Yea, well, of course. Especially as that Austrian colaterol damage guy made CA bespeciallyankcrupt.
I just learned that all companies working for the Gov. are getting no cash at all. Instead a paper which states that they will be paid later Kind of a
Goverment debt paper.
But what if Arnie can't get no money to pay the debt????.
California you got it better OF COURSE |
Well, let me help out all the people here with the short-term memory problems. First of all, California is no longer issuing the paper. That was a
short-term problem because the legislature could not pass a workable budget. By the way, are you aware that the "paper" bore interest at 3%? That is
three times the current interest rate on CD's.
Now as for the Governator, perhaps the senility factor here has caused a number of viejos here to forget that the financial problems in California
started with a Democratic governor named Grey Davis. In fact, Grey Davis was so incompetent that the People of the State of California kicked him out
of office before his term was up and put in the Governator. But before we could kick out Davis, he managed to screw up the finances. He signed onerous
contracts with unions, like the prison guards and others, that locked in the state to unbearable and unwarranted expenses for years into the future.
He bloated the state's payroll, and basically spent like a drunken sailor on leave, thereby hocking the entire future of the state for a few quick
jollies. Kind of like what the anointed one in Washington is doing to the rest of the country.
Well, you know what they say, "as California goes, so goes the nation." |
Thanks for keeping it real, most do tend to forget what really happened...
Also, the Enron folks that ripped of California for electrical bills a few years ago, may finally have to pay back the funds they stashed in
Switzerland. The Swiss have agreed to pay 780 Billion USD NOT to be prosecuted by the U.S in International Court.
One other issue which is not getting all the press it should, water. California is in a drought and one of California's primary economic engines is
lost "Agriculture".
Planting in the Central Valley has been drastically cut back by the Federal allocation of water within the current distribution system... on the west
side of Fresno County, unemployment is plus 40%. And we all know who are the workers are in the United States, especially in Ag...
All said, your last line is really going to be true on this one...
Might be good to watch how the folks do it Baja, they have never had the "level" of Social Services we have and/or had.. my Dad went through the
"depression" and always lived a life of never being in debt, if you did have the money, you did get what ever it was you wanted, he had a second car
in our back yard for parts, a washing machine for parts, hell, he had a back up for everything. Plus, he built an entire home in Downey CA, from used
lumber gotten from railroad siding's with the help of 5 kids loading it all into a box trailer he had built from an old wrecked car... Seems he did
not really care what folks thought of HOW HE LOOKED and what KIND of stuff he had... only care about taking care of himself and his own... Really old
school, based on reality ..
We are in a depression now, they just will not call it one, yesterday report 86% increase in foreclosure in Single Family Homes in July... with all
the people out of work, with not jobs, and they lose their house....
I just don't see where are they going to work, to get the money to buy what ever in order to pay taxes to support the debt which has been created.
When we start spending Trillions that we don't have, and just print it up in the name of "quantitate easing" with no foreseeable way to pay it back...
That is what has me looking to Mexico.. they already don't have all the services, here it will be a real mess in a short time.
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This is getting way to complicated.
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
now if those firemen that keep delivering firetrucks
(there is several here)
would think about hydrants and
the source of the water for them...that would be nice
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What a great idea
Have the firetrucks pump sewage water on the fires
Solves two problems at once |
That idea is the second best:
The sewage is released every night into the river. Or why do you think the river smells so bad at night??
And that is why there are more mosquitos close to the river than anywhere else. Mosquitos love sewage!! Normally the Sea Breeze is keeping the
mosquitos away > mosquitos do not live w/ salt water breeze.
(And that is why smart Gringos buy properties right at the rivers edge.)
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Raw sewage needs to be treated!!.... Plain and simple. ++C++
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Wessongroup, I would have liked your dad. Function trumps fashion.
Being FROM CA, it kills me that people actually blame Arnold for this mess. CA has been spending beyond its means for quite some time. I blame the
state legislature mostly. Their spending habits, focused towards special interest groups, created animosity among other special interest groups who
didnt feel they were getting their fair share. And so, these have-nots began financing these "special interest" spending initiatives like Prop 98 that
further hogtied the state government.
Of course, the global meltdown didnt help. But it took something as drastic as this to finally make the state legislature deal with it.
I applaud the Guv and the Republicans for refusing to create new taxes while the same spending habits were expected to continue.
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squid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Wessongroup, I would have liked your dad. Function trumps fashion.
Being FROM CA, it kills me that people actually blame Arnold for this mess. CA has been spending beyond its means for quite some time. I blame the
state legislature mostly. Their spending habits, focused towards special interest groups, created animosity among other special interest groups who
didnt feel they were getting their fair share. And so, these have-nots began financing these "special interest" spending initiatives like Prop 98 that
further hogtied the state government.
Of course, the global meltdown didnt help. But it took something as drastic as this to finally make the state legislature deal with it.
I applaud the Guv and the Republicans for refusing to create new taxes while the same spending habits were expected to continue.
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That's the trouble w/ the Gringos. Once they decided to be Republican, they can't see no good thing on the other side. Once they decided to be
Democrats, they can't see no good thing on the Republicans.
HOW SHALLOW!
Well, folks who elect a colateral damage guy as their governor, do not deserve better than colateral damage to their state. Plain and simple.
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Bob and Susan
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for us simpletons...
gov of california was in a movie when he was younger...
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