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MsTerieus
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Feeding our dogs is a defined process I will not go into but with a very definite purpose in mind...
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It's not what they eat, but what they won't, by training, eat. |
How do you train a dog not to eat food from strangers?
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
 your spot
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Maybe BG is right and she deleted a post. I've been thinking about suggesting, Wiley, that you quote at least part of the post to which you are
replying, because many times, I can't tell, and your post does not make sense to me.  (And now we have another reason.)
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BajaGringo
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I would tell you but then I would have to let my dogs bite you...
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
your spot
on Dennis.. |
Maybe BG is right and she deleted a post. I've been thinking about suggesting, Wiley, that you quote at least part of the post to which you are
replying, because many times, I can't tell, and your post does not make sense to me. (And now we have another reason.) |
Looks like we have a new room monitor Wiley...
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I would tell you but then I would have to let my dogs bite you...
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Hahahah. I think maybe you DID tell me.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I would tell you but then I would have to let my dogs bite you...
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could those two Dobbies be any more perfect for you? Nice job- and a good lucky break for all of you.
I do think when children are involved you are best off choosing a breed/animal that has the temperament and behavior you want from them 95% of the
time- instead of the other way around. Some guard dogs are great with kids and others can be sketchy at best. Treat a guard dog like you would a
loaded gun around with kids in the house. JMHO
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
How do you train a dog not to eat food from strangers? |
Same way you train your kids.
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BajaGringo
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The key word is training. I see way too many folks who get a certain breed or size of dog and think that will take care of the problem. A dog who will
be a good family pet and provide security is a product of breeding and training, but mostly training in my experience...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I would tell you but then I would have to let my dogs bite you...
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could those two Dobbies be any more perfect for you? Nice job- and a good lucky break for all of you.
I do think when children are involved you are best off choosing a breed/animal that has the temperament and behavior you want from them 95% of the
time- instead of the other way around. Some guard dogs are great with kids and others can be sketchy at best. Treat a guard dog like you would a
loaded gun around with kids in the house. JMHO |
when guard dogs get out, they often cause problems in neighborhood. you people training dogs to be mean should watch out that you don't hurt
neighbors pets and children. your neighbors should be warned that you keep dangerous animals, and you should not be surprised if your neighbors shoot
and ask Qs later.
personally, i am glad that i don't have neighbors like you that are training dogs to attack people.
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DENNIS
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Wassamatta Goat, have the big, mean doggys been chasing you around the landfill? 
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Oh god...my sides hurt...! Christ, what fun this is...attack dogs, poodles, Big Macs...
Here's an idea for the pacifist approach...adopt a toothless kill-trained Doberman or Irish Wolfhound.
The perp. Flat on his back and being Saliva-Gummed around the throat by the snarling menace..well, you get the picture.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I would tell you but then I would have to let my dogs bite you...
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could those two Dobbies be any more perfect for you? Nice job- and a good lucky break for all of you.
I do think when children are involved you are best off choosing a breed/animal that has the temperament and behavior you want from them 95% of the
time- instead of the other way around. Some guard dogs are great with kids and others can be sketchy at best. Treat a guard dog like you would a
loaded gun around with kids in the house. JMHO |
when guard dogs get out, they often cause problems in neighborhood. you people training dogs to be mean should watch out that you don't hurt
neighbors pets and children. your neighbors should be warned that you keep dangerous animals, and you should not be surprised if your neighbors shoot
and ask Qs later.
personally, i am glad that i don't have neighbors like you that are training dogs to attack people. |
I am
sure the reverse is true as well!
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Oh god...my sides hurt...! Christ, what fun this is...attack dogs, poodles, Big Macs...
Here's an idea for the pacifist approach...adopt a toothless kill-trained Doberman or Irish Wolfhound.
The perp. Flat on his back and being Saliva-Gummed around the throat by the snarling menace..well, you get the picture. |
I can so just picture that scenario
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I prefer my Chihuahua with chipotle, traditional style.
Iflyfish
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
Maybe if we can train the dogs to hump goats... the goats will be happy too!!
[Edited on 7-26-2010 by fishabductor] |
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
your spot
on Dennis.. |
... I've been thinking about suggesting, Wiley, that you quote at least part of the post to which you are replying, because many times, I can't
tell, and your post does not make sense to me. (And now we have another
reason.) |
Looks like we have a new room monitor Wiley...
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I am one too! When I post corrections they are meant to be constructive. Also, several posters (not you, BG) are unreadable because of their poor
grammar and punctuation, lack of attributing quotes, run-on sentences, unnecessary repetition and disorganized thoughts.
Of course, nobody wants to be lectured or corrected. It is resented, and we are probably out of line in our suggestions. While trying to be helpful,
we are actually intruding. They either lack the ability to learn, or more likely, they lack the will.
So, in the future I will not offer any more lessons, but know that I will probably skip over the "offender's" posts and not read them. It is too
difficult and time consuming. Too bad, because these people have ideas to give but the packaging of those gifts are made of tangled wire and duct
tape. 
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
your spot
on Dennis.. |
... I've been thinking about suggesting, Wiley, that you quote at least part of the post to which you are replying, because many times, I can't
tell, and your post does not make sense to me. (And now we have another
reason.) |
Looks like we have a new room monitor Wiley...
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I am one too! When I post corrections they are meant to be constructive. Also, several posters (not you, BG) are unreadable because of their poor
grammar and punctuation, lack of attributing quotes, run-on sentences, unnecessary repetition and disorganized thoughts.
Of course, nobody wants to be lectured or corrected. It is resented, and we are probably out of line in our suggestions. While trying to be helpful,
we are actually intruding. They either lack the ability to learn, or more likely, they lack the will.
So, in the future I will not offer any more lessons, but know that I will probably skip over the "offender's" posts and not read them. It is too
difficult and time consuming. Too bad, because these people have ideas to give but the packaging of those gifts are made of tangled wire and duct
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No problem - I am used to being corrected. Product of being raised by a stern German father, a strong willed, outspoken mom and two older sisters...
Goat - please tell me where I said that I am training my dogs to be mean??? I am training my dogs not to take food from or become overly friendly with
anyone but us.
If you are with me the dogs will come up, sit and even love to be petted. But they understand that is not standard behavior for just anybody who
decides to wander onto the property at 1:00AM. They will probably not be smiling but they do not just go for your neck because you walk by the
property. They will take an aggressive stance, bark and make sure you get the message.
Or did you train your dogs to open the gate for strangers in the middle of the night? My guess is that if you have a dog you have never done much, if
any training which is why this is over your head.
Do some reading on Dobermans - they are low on the list of dogs reported for bites/attacks. They know when and where to show the teeth and especially
if trained. You are actually much more likely to be bitten by one of these breeds:
Dachshunds
Chihuahuas
Jack Russell Terriers
Australian Cattle Dogs
American c-cker Spaniels
Source...
There is so much misinformation out there about dog breeds and behavior but for now I guess I will let that work in my favor. Especially if it keeps
us from having an unwanted visitor at 1:00AM...
Edited for grammar before you hounds catch me...
[Edited on 7-26-2010 by BajaGringo]
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
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So, in the future I will not offer any more lessons, but know that I will probably skip over the "offender's" posts and not read them. It is too
difficult and time consuming. Too bad, because these people have ideas to give but the packaging of those gifts are made of tangled wire and
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DUCT TAPE! You had to mention duct tape...arghh..
Just 4-5 days ago, my drivers' side mirror was destroyed by a madman driving a huge motorhome who got too far over in the roadway. Those damn
motorhomes are a menace and should be....wait, I'm driving one, too...er, it was an unavoidable accident,I am sure...
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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toneart
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I have thought a lot about dogs as protection. Mine is a big dog, around 100#. Paco is good protection for me, particularly in Mexico, because of his
size and the fear factor that prevails there.
When he put me through obedience training, I didn't have a house in Mexico yet. (He is now seven). My objectives were: socializing with other dogs and
people. Little did I know that he was doing too good of a job learning. He loves all people and all dogs.
He is never initially aggressive, although he has fought back when attacked. Oh, the first time he didn't know what was happening. He yipped and cried
and I broke them up. He was saying "Ow! Oh my God, what is happening? I don't know about this." The second time and the few times afterward, he kicked
a**. Mexican street dogs scatter and cower when the see him coming. All Paco wants is to play with them.
With people, he is a licker and a tail wagger. If someone were intent on invading my yard he would probably give himself away. Although, if it were at
night he would bark and probably back the intruder off. If the intruder tried to enter the house, I am pretty sure Paco would aggressively protect me
by attacking him. I believe those moves would be instinctual. However, he has never been tested.
That is also my threshold. I am pretty much a Pacifist. I will try to avoid conflict, if possible. If someone attacks me or invades my home, I will
fight until one of us is dead or unconscious. I have done it twice in my adult lifetime (not killed anyone, but rendered them totally incapacitated).
You must do something; whatever you have to fight with; whatever it takes. Even if it is no match with the weaponry of the aggressor, you have to
fight. Know this about yourself and you have a chance, even if it is a slim one.
Paco has never been trained as a guard dog. I really don't want a mean dog or the liability that carries with it. For sure, he would eat a Big Mac
thrown into the yard. I watch him closely though and am usually aware of anyone in his proximity.
All things considered, I have the exact dog I have always wanted.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by noproblemo2
And just what is wrong with a poodle??????? |
IMO - nothing, in their natural state. But I HATE those dumb "coiffures". Oh -- and toy poodles yap too much.
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