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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboMagic
Sorry to hear about the unfortunate and unpleasant experience.
Cabo San Lucas is paradise for some and just not for others.
David for some of us, reading your posts is akin to driving past an accident and feeling compelled to look at the bloody mess ..
Glad no personal injury involved to your son - and well put Hook. |
Sorry? Paradise for some and just not for others? Wtf?
There is nothing worse in this world than cops committing armed robbery upon people on the street. Nothing worse. These pieces of chit were hired to
protect. They now think their job is to commit armed robbery upon tourists.
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Wally
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT These things happen in lots of places-- not a good reason to boycott every place!
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These: "cops picking up tourists in high density nightlife locations and robbing them at gun point" types of things happen in lots of places? Really?
In Cabo these things happen?
More important than lots of "oh, bad place" or "you get what you deserve" fooey, is no one in town is talking about a robbery/mugging or unusual
police activity last night. Meaning no one saw it or it wasn't reported.
The OP asked for help with who to contact. Has a report been filed or complaint made? If so, what was the outcome?
This is serious chit folks! People's livelihood rely on tourism. If this was in fact a real event then chit needs to be resolved.
So, was there a person picked up somewhere close to the busiest bar in Cabo last night at 1:30 am by 3 cops and required to hand over his money at gun
point or not? And, if so, what has been done about it?
That's all that matters.
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Wally
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
There is nothing worse in this world than cops committing armed robbery upon people on the street. Nothing worse. These pieces of chit were hired to
protect. They now think their job is to commit armed robbery upon tourists. |
What the hell are you talking about?
You have no proof of that.
I'm slack jawed. What an egregious comment.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
ARMED ROBBERY BY COPS!!!
This is not business as usual
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Perhaps is biz as usual in several US cities. LA has these type of cops caught annually. In USA they usually rob the poor, know better than to rob
tourists
Pretty bad when it happens to tourists in a town built around tourism!
[Edited on 3-4-2013 by mtgoat666]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Wally
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
There is nothing worse in this world than cops committing armed robbery upon people on the street. Nothing worse. These pieces of chit were hired to
protect. They now think their job is to commit armed robbery upon tourists. |
What the hell are you talking about?
You have no proof of that.
I'm slack jawed. What an egregious comment. |
Did you read the thread? Started with a story about cops committing armed robbery!
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Bajaboy
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So did the kid report the incident to the authorities?
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Wally
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Wally
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
There is nothing worse in this world than cops committing armed robbery upon people on the street. Nothing worse. These pieces of chit were hired to
protect. They now think their job is to commit armed robbery upon tourists. |
What the hell are you talking about?
You have no proof of that.
I'm slack jawed. What an egregious comment. |
Did you read the thread? Started with a story about cops committing armed robbery! |
Yes, I did. And, apparently, unlike you, I don't believe everything I read on the Internet.
Did the victim report it?
If not, I'm happy to help him get to the right people to file a complaint. And the local business community will be very appreciative.
U2U me for assistance.
This nonsense is bad for business here. We need to get rid of bad cops.
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Second the "stay away from Cabo"part...If you want to go to Cabo, go to Newport Beach, its closer... |
And less expensive.
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SwissFrank
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Do you guys also blame rape victims as well?
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BajaDixon
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I am advocating that my son reports this crime to the authorities that have been referenced in this thread. Hopefully he will do this first thing in
the morning.
I appreciate all the positive comments and support from those who posted here. The question that has not been answered is if anyone thinks that the
police may seek retribution against my son if he files a report. I tend to think that they wont because they would be under scrutiny at that point.
But I'm only speculating so I'm concerned about that possibility.
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GilandVal
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Cabo Polic Officers-Baja Dixon's Post-Our Personal Experience
My husband and I are 53 and 63. We rented a scooter from Amigo Scooter Rentals,unbeknownest to us they have a reputation for faulty vehicles. We
crashed going down Pedregal,because of a snapped brake line, had severe skin abrasions. Guess what? The police took their side in every which way.
The so called "officer" stood there and allowed the Amigos Rental manager to yell at me while he accused my husband and I of cutting the brake line
and causing the accident ourselves. We are now back in the U.S. and finally feel safe to share our story.
We had asked the police to escort us to Amigo rentals to ask for a refund, but he first told us to go the the Fire Department to file a report,
obviously so that he could get to scooter rental first, the Fire Department officers had no idea why we would even bother with them! After standing
in the office allowing the scooter guy to berate my husband and I (my husband was not there, he was too injured and is suffering from a terminal lung
disease) one of the police officers escorted me (the wife) outside and I watched through the window as he shook every one of the employees hands and
then walked out of their office and, all of a sudden, he forgot how to speak English. I asked his partner to translate for me and he just shook his
head like he couldn't understand a word I was saying.
They kept telling me to get into their police vehicle, but I refused and said I would walk back to their department. When I got there, at the Tourist
Police Department, there was NO ONE there to help me, so I stood there, with my wounds still oozing blood for around 25 minutes. I was not offerred a
chair or even invited inside. I just stood there in their "parking lot' waiting for assistance. all of a sudden there was NOT ONE officer who knew
any English. When the initial officer and his partner finally showed up again they totally ignored me for another 7-8 minutes and then started drawing
pictures on a piece of paper and put U.S.E. on top (U.S. Embassy?).
I think its only fair that we share these situations with fellow travelers. We have been travelling in Mexico for 11 years and this is a first for
us.
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GilandVal
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Baja Dixon - One More Incident I Need to Share With You
By the way, when I shared our experience with our next door neighbors, they told me of an incident that happened with their friends visiting from
Idaho:
They were walking back to their condo in the evening, approximately January 5, 2013 (our incident happened about January 30th?) and they were
approached by police officers accusing them of short-changing some vendors and were ordered to give them money for exchange of their arrest.
I can not corraborate the incident personally, but our neighbors didn't seem like people that would make something like that up.
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Islandbuilder
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All I can say is that I'm glad your son is OK. I had been thinking that reporting the theft was a good idea, but I hadn't thought of the possibility
for blow back like you just posted. Given the other reports related to your's, I wonder if the tourist police are a safe haven for tourists having
trouble with bad cops?
I believe that early on in this thread someone helpfully posted a list of contacts, perhaps one of them are in a position to "insulate" complainants
from possible repercussions.
Again, so glad that your son is well!
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bajaguy
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Make Noise
Giland Val and BajaDixon
While the MAJORITY of the people on this board appreciate your posts of incidents that have occurred, and are willing to help out a fellow Nomad
whenever possible, YOU MUST make noise at the local, state and federal levels.
These incidents MUST be reported to the local, state and federal authorities. Tourism, Police and Prosecutor. Do not forget the newspapers and any
e-groups such as Baja Nomad, Talk Baja and others including the fishing and race groups, the cruise ship companies and local businesses.
Tourism is the lifeblood of Cabo.....happy tourists tell others and will come back.....unhappy tourists also tell others and is bad for business.
If you let the authorities know that you are spreading the word to the above groups, either about bad cops or rip-off merchants, they will
act.........remember, it's all about $$$$$$ and Cabo can't afford to lose any .
When you report these incidents, please let us here on the Baja Nomad board know the responses you receive from your letters and/or e-mails.
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Gil and Val - very sad and disturbing story.
Perhaps we should have a list of names and numbers to call when we find ourselves needing advice/support/help in the Cabo area ???? Is there a
Mexican tourist advocate or some such thing?
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Baja Sur/Cabo
http://www.bcs.gob.mx/
http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/portal/site.jsp
http://www.seguridadbc.gob.mx/089.php
http://www.loscabosguide.com/loscabostourism.htm
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaDixon
Got a text from my son that 3 cops ( I'm assuming city cops since I haven't talked with him yet) put him in their car, held a gun to his head, and
then stole his money!They then left him on the street.
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This post started assuming the perps were cops. Every post after that stated the perps were cops.
Nobody has stated facts that these were really cops. It's possible they were cops, and possible they were posers.
And then the Cabo bashers jump in blaming Cabo.
You guys are jokers offering entertainment.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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DavidE
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Well the answer below could separate the wheat from the chaff...
How "cops" are handled is sort of tricky. First of all your son needs to report the affair in full to the MINISTERIO PUBLICO. They are the liaison to
the state police.
Then report it to the BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR OFFICE OF TOURISM, in full.
The find a GREEN ANGEL and make yet another report out which will go federal.
And the to the US CONSULATE office.
The local PD will be worried about the state cops who I guarantee, hate the local police. Then there are the cops from the municipio, the state, the
feds, the tourism board, and the US Consulate.
It is VITAL to understand that EVERY meaning ALL of the above agencies have to be contacted IN PERSON, and reports filled out. If for some reason this
isn't done you might as well forget about reporting the robbery at all.
One agency has to telephone the other, and then a S*** Storm is created. And it will not go away. The last thing the cop commander needs is to have
all this slide downhill and bury him. After all, his "game" is a hell of a lot larger than some few hundred dollars that he never saw.
Only a FEW COPS have duty at night. So this really narrows it down. Go through the pain-in-the-butt procedure above and the culprits will be caught.
But I wonder if we'll hear another peep out of this...
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
This post started assuming the perps were cops. Every post after that stated the perps were cops.
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Well....if it quacks like a duck, why would anbody need a zoologist to tell them it's probably a duck.
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CaboMagic
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What DavidE says is absolutely correct ... frustrating yes .. but still.
and what Lee said too - there is no way to know if imposters were the perps .. it may or may not surprise 'you' to know how 'easy' it is for someone
in Cabo to present themselves as someone else .. too easy for official looking identifications/badges .. and weve seen many 'old' CHP cars around over
the years ..
If evil-doers would only focus thier efforts towards good, what a world we would have - and I know, how unrealistic and idealistic this statement is.
Its a part of Baja/Mexico life we refer to as a tradeoff ..
Baja Dixon I reiterate the sentiments expressed.
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