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Ateo
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Glad to see she was freed!
Glad to see she thanked the media (after first thanking god) for helping in her release.
She's cute. Just saying. 
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DENNIS
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In the interest of tourism, Mexico should use this case to illustrate to the world the changes in their judicial system that are on the table
presently, as well as hiring a PR firm to work on the damage that was done to their image in the last week.
The problems still exist. Nothing has changed.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
In the interest of tourism, Mexico should use this case to illustrate to the world the changes in their judicial system that are on the table
presently, as well as hiring a PR firm to work on the damage that was done to their image in the last week.
The problems still exist. Nothing has changed. |
I completely agree that when a good instance of judicial changes occurs, Mexico needs to showcase it.
But I'm not sure this was it. It took a WEEK to look at the video that exonerated her? Multiple witnesses testified to her getting on the bus with
nothing like the size of the contraband? I also heard the seats, while assigned at the terminal, were assigned differently when the bus was loading.
No one was in their assigned seats.
And the system used to suspend and conceal the contraband beneath the seat would have taken some time to do. There is no way she could have done this
on a bus full of people without someone seeing it. It was clearly a bus employee; maybe not the driver, but someone.
In the US, this would never have gotten before a judge. A prosecutor would have bounced it immediately. A week to ten days to face a judge is
ridiculous.
Complicating matters was the fact that the military discovered the cache. These people are not trained in determining how reasonable it was that she
was the perpetrator.
Tufesa buses are VERY commonly used by gringos in Sonora, now that the only flight into Guaymas from the US has been terminated. This has gotten
everyone checking their seats and the baggage compartment above them.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Mexican cops are grossly underpaid, underfunded, and expected to bite*, by the public. It is a breeding ground to entice predators, dishearten
potential good cops, and warp those who become a cop with innocent intentions and then realize just what they've gotten themselves into.
*Ever see a rico go ballistic because an honest cop refused to take a bribe. I have. It is not pretty. It involves profanity, threats (some of them
very real), and yelling.
Mexicans themselves are the most educated critics of this truly evil system of law enforcement and judiciary. In the early nineties a film was made
IMHO the finest ever made about Mexican politics regarding law enforcement and it has some of the blackest Mexican style humor imaginable. We left the
movie theater weak from laughing so hard for so long. The PRI after seeing it went ballistic. They had funded the film. You've got to either watch the
movie once very closely or much better yet. Play it again after a while. Watch the small things. The film is a masterpiece.
La Ley de Herodes (Herod's Law)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
It was clearly a bus employee; maybe not the driver, but someone.
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And, that "someone" was on that bus, escorting the load.
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In the US, this would never have gotten before a judge. A prosecutor would have bounced it immediately. A week to ten days to face a judge is
ridiculous.
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Another problem, not only with the judicial system, but the whole establishment. No one who has a superior is allowed to make a decision. Delegation
of authority is practically unheard of. The military is the worst in this regard. That's a big reason nothing gets done down here until the #1
approves it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
La Ley de Herodes (Herod's Law) |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_Law
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I was on Jury Duty yesterday in Chula Vista, CA. The judge that spoke to the jurors was saying how our judicial system is the best in the world. He
then went on to say that judges from MX have been observing the process in San Diego courts for the last year.
He said that they are going to make changes where witnesses can give spoken testimony, not just written.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Heather
I was on Jury Duty yesterday in Chula Vista, CA. The judge that spoke to the jurors was saying how our judicial system is the best in the world. He
then went on to say that judges from MX have been observing the process in San Diego courts for the last year.
He said that they are going to make changes where witnesses can give spoken testimony, not just written. |
Watching the change in the judicial system here, will be like watching the Giant Redwoods grow. Best to take a seat.
There is an excellent book available on the subject. Amazon has it:
"Reforming The Administration Of Justice In Mexico"
http://undpress.nd.edu/book/P01130
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she is of hispanic descent, English is her 2nd language. She is Mormon married to a us citizen and she has us citizenship. She has 7 kids and is in
early 40s. The whole event was a set up for a shake down. This stuff will continue.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
The whole event was a set up for a shake down. This stuff will continue. |
Maybe so, Mike. But the opportunities for the shakedown diminish the further it goes. You can't have the whole judicial system involved in a
shakedown. It becomes too public and gets to a point where no one wants to touch it, and she just sits and waits.
Personally, I don't think it was a setup. She was just in the wrong seat at the wrong time and got caught up in it.
Wasn't her husband sitting next to her? I wonder why they didn't take him in as well?
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It's The Name Of A MOVIE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
La Ley de Herodes (Herod's Law) |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_Law |
Cut And Paste Movie Review. Quotation marks are mine. The year is entirely incorrect
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Movie Info
Luis Estrada directs this groundbreaking and extremely controversial satire about Mexico's long-ruling political party, the PRI. Set in the late 1940s
in the remote, thoroughly backwards village of San Pedro de los Saguaros, the film focuses on Vargas (Damian Alcazar), a petty politician who had the
dubious honor of being appointed town mayor after his predecessor was decapitated for corruption by an angry mob. At first, he tries to balance the
books and to bring the 20th century to the backwaters. When he is visited by slick PRI politico Lopez (Pedro Armendariz), however, he learns the
officially sanctioned way of running the town: at gunpoint while pilfering the bank vaults. Soon Vargas becomes a power-mad despot, more than willing
to steal or kill to further his goals. Though his PRI bosses try to reign him in, the lynch mob soon appears to be the inevitable end of Vargas'
political career. The first film to criticize the PRI by name, Estrada's bitter farce savages the ruling party, the church and U.S. intervention. Cult
director Alex Cox plays a small role as a seedy gringo. ~ Jonathan Crow, Rovi"
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DENNIS
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It's The Name Of A MOVIE...... |
Yes...I know. There's a problem with the link.
Cut 'n paste this into Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_Law
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DavidE
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Dangit Dennis I meant to add "Too!" and I got distracted. Desculpame amigo!
[Edited on 5-31-2013 by DavidE]
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Tambien here is a cut n paste from the newspaper note the word FEDERAL POLICE not military. I sure as hell would not want to be the comandante nor
ministerio publico responsible for this. The krap really hit the fan in the top levels of gobernacion and I mean Prieta Nieto hisself...
"NOGALES, Mexico (AP) — An Arizona woman held in a Mexico jail for a week after federal police said they found 12 pounds of marijuana under her bus
seat was freed and returned to the U.S..."
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Woman-freed-from-Me...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Tambien here is a cut n paste from the newspaper note the word FEDERAL POLICE not military. I
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They are so often wrong with details, David. They don't know the difference.
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Loretana
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I keep a copy of "La Ley de Herodes" at our home in Loreto....I encourage my gringo friends to watch it in Spanish.
It sums up the "old" Mexican political system nicely.
Just an observation on my part. 
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She wasn't set up per se. The thing was whomever was going to that seat would be the mark. Napolianic law is a bad deal. Check your rights at the
border.
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I was camped on a rural beach in Oaxaca in the late 70's. Knock on the door and a loud voice at 10PM "¡POLICIA FEDERAL!"
Three of them plainclothes, outside holding up their gold badges. The old PJF was nothing like the new SSP. These %^&#@! were as corrupt as they
came...
I opened the door and they stepped back in shock.
"You eespeak Espanish? One of them asked.
Si
"Are you OK? We just checking"
Si
They had just busted a camp of hippies on the other end of the beach. Six, eight ten of them I never counted. I could see flashlights bobbing around
over there. I figure when the federales saw my short hair and obvious longest distance away from the hippies camp spot they came to the conclusion
there would not be "one more arrest" made that night. When the sun finally came up there was only trash where the hippie camp was. I have no idea what
happened to them. The dueña of a local tienda later said the hippies had all been arrested and taken to Salina Cruz.
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