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cabokid
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Well said. Why do us Americans always criticize and want to change the Mexican way which in my opinion a lot of times works much better than our own.
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Osprey
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Never got very far into the Zen movement but right this minute, after all these posts, I have the urge to merge.
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tripledigitken
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Why not install yield signs?
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durrelllrobert
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..and when in Boston do as the locals do?
Used to fly into Boston's Logan airport a lot and when you leave the rental car lot you go into a tunnel to get to town. At the tunnel exit there are
stop signs (not lights) for the right and left turns (no straight ahead as I recall) and I NEVER saw ANY car, taxi or bus stop at them Just a Boston
tradition I guess.
Bob Durrell
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Sandlefoot
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If you like the place the way it is enough to move there, or just vacation there, why would anyone want to change it. Look at Fenix, everyone loved
it because it was dry and warm year around, with no allergies. Now there is every kind of plant that was not there that is causing allergies just
like the ones we had back home. If you want to stop, then by all means stop! Why waste time criticizing others because they are doing what is ok in
their mind just because it doesn't coincide with what you think is ok? If it aint broke why try to fix it!!!
Happy Trails and Merry Christmas
" Don't find fault, find a remedy; anyone can complain." Henry Ford
If you are not living on the edge...you are taking up to much space!
Just because it may not be a good idea does not mean it will not be fun!!!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Used to fly into Boston's Logan airport a lot and when you leave the rental car lot you go into a tunnel to get to town. At the tunnel exit there are
stop signs (not lights) for the right and left turns (no straight ahead as I recall) and I NEVER saw ANY car, taxi or bus stop at them Just a Boston
tradition I guess. |
Forgive the minor hijack, but when we drove across the country we were told over and over not to try and drive in downtown Boston as we would become
lost and never find our way around. Take public transportation, we were advised.
We ignored he sage advice and spent a good part of the day driving around and around and around and saw nothing! We plan to fly back there and take
public transportation to see all the places we missed. 
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willardguy
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all this talk about mexican common sense and lets not try to change things is all well and good but wouldnt it be great to see less roadside shrines?
http://whatshappeningmx.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/car-acciden...
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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ya gotta watch for Alto signs...you never know what flavour they will come in.
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Alan
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I love driving in La Paz! Between the hidden stop signs, pot holes, road construction and unsigned streets the locals have taken driving to an art
form! They make it work. I would suggest that the author take a moment to just chill and look around. Their systems works and it works well. In 10
years I have seen far fewer accidents in La Paz than other comparably sized US cities. She needs to just sit down at any of the outside cafes with a
cup of coffee (in her case de-caffinated) and really just watch the traffic. She will learn that there is common sense behind every move. Stop signs
in La Pa' are not only suggestions, in some cases they are landmarks! There are many intersections that locals will stop at because there "used to
be" a stop sign there. They know it fell down and just hadn't been replaced yet. It's only been 6 years.
So, have I been know to wait at a red light at 5 in the morning on my way to go fishing, without another car in sight? Of course! I'm a gringo! I
know there is a cop hiding somewhere nearby that needs a boost to his income but I certainly would never criticize a local for driving on through when
it is obvious there is no one else out and about at that hour.
In Memory of E-57
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Used to fly into Boston's Logan airport a lot and when you leave the rental car lot you go into a tunnel to get to town. At the tunnel exit there are
stop signs (not lights) for the right and left turns (no straight ahead as I recall) and I NEVER saw ANY car, taxi or bus stop at them Just a Boston
tradition I guess. |
Forgive the minor hijack, but when we drove across the country we were told over and over not to try and drive in downtown Boston as we would become
lost and never find our way around. Take public transportation, we were advised.
We ignored he sage advice and spent a good part of the day driving around and around and around and saw nothing! We plan to fly back there and take
public transportation to see all the places we missed.
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How could you get lost when they have directional signs like this installed all over the place:
Bob Durrell
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dasubergeek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
Hey, why not have red stop signs where it is important to make a full stop, and green signs where it really isn't necessary.  Additionally, it would be a nice Christmas decor touch at this time of
year and they could stay up year round to save on annual decorating
expenses.
Actuall, I agree with weebray, the Baja system wors well, and we should loosen up on this in the US.
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They do something like this in eastern Jalisco and part of Guanajuato... there will be a sign under a stop sign that says "Uno Y Uno". If there are
others coming up to the stop sign, you go one by one in the order you arrived; if not, you don't stop.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Used to fly into Boston's Logan airport a lot and when you leave the rental car lot you go into a tunnel to get to town. At the tunnel exit there are
stop signs (not lights) for the right and left turns (no straight ahead as I recall) and I NEVER saw ANY car, taxi or bus stop at them Just a Boston
tradition I guess. |
Forgive the minor hijack, but when we drove across the country we were told over and over not to try and drive in downtown Boston as we would become
lost and never find our way around. Take public transportation, we were advised.
We ignored he sage advice and spent a good part of the day driving around and around and around and saw nothing! We plan to fly back there and take
public transportation to see all the places we missed.
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How could you get lost when they have directional signs like this installed all over the place:
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weebray
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
all this talk about mexican common sense and lets not try to change things is all well and good but wouldnt it be great to see less roadside shrines?
If they put up shrines on the highways up north you would be hard pressed to find a place to pull over to change a flat. Also, Mexicans don't put up
shrines for idiots.
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Nappo
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As most of you know, Tecate is a cop's dream with a red light coming into town right after the Pemex - No local slows down, then many stop signs as
you head to the border. 2 years ago our buddy car got pulled over for not stopping and then found a small knife in the car - whoops fine went up.
OK, the funny part, this year we made a special effort to stop completely at each stop sign. Got lit up by the police. He came up and asked if there
was something wrong with our car as we seemed to stop too long! We told him we were just being courteous, letting other cars go...Also told him, 1st
time in Tecate, no Spanish.....He again asked if our car was OK, and let us go with a "warning" to not stop too long! Gees! I read somewhere where
Tecate has become some kind of "wonder town". Wonder what they'll find next to extract a few $$
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Kgryfon
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I'm guessing that in the US, this lady also gets in the fast lane and drives 55 regardless of the traffic flow, how many people drive around her on
the left, honk at her, and/or give her the finger.
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tecatero
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Sounds like this gal should stay on the US side.....forever. The lack of all the signs , rules , regulations and petty BS that is ruining the USA is
the reason I love Baja......I'll make sure to roll thru all 7 stop signs next time in LA PAz and toast to her at each one......
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Floatflyer
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"I'm guessing that in the US, this lady also gets in the fast lane and drives 55 regardless of the traffic flow, how many people drive around her on
the left, honk at her, and/or give her the finger. "
Maybe my biggest pet peeve!!!! And, of course, you meant on the "right". Selfish idiots all!
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dasubergeek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nappo
As most of you know, Tecate is a cop's dream with a red light coming into town right after the Pemex - No local slows down, then many stop signs as
you head to the border. 2 years ago our buddy car got pulled over for not stopping and then found a small knife in the car - whoops fine went up.
OK, the funny part, this year we made a special effort to stop completely at each stop sign. Got lit up by the police. He came up and asked if there
was something wrong with our car as we seemed to stop too long! We told him we were just being courteous, letting other cars go...Also told him, 1st
time in Tecate, no Spanish.....He again asked if our car was OK, and let us go with a "warning" to not stop too long! Gees! I read somewhere where
Tecate has become some kind of "wonder town". Wonder what they'll find next to extract a few $$ |
Sounds like the (now dissolved) village of New Rome, Ohio. (Read newromesucks.com for the stories of their awful police force.)
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weebray
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"And the preacher said, 'you know that the lord is always by your side'. I was so pleased to be informed of this that I ran the next 20 red lights in
his honor. Thank you Jesus, thank you lord." Well, you know what kind of eyes she had.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kgryfon
I'm guessing that in the US, this lady also gets in the fast lane and drives 55 regardless of the traffic flow, how many people drive around her on
the left, honk at her, and/or give her the finger. |
did your mother teach you to go out on public streets and flip the bird at strangers just because you are frustrated?
you flip the bird at the wrong person, you are more likely to get a beat down from a road rager. but i think if you are prone to flipping the bird,
you probably are a road rager. i think you got anger management problem!
you all should drive on public streets outside of your neighborhood the same way you want people to drive in front of your own house. i see so many
people drive like jerks but only outside of their own street. would you speed down your own street, running stop sign at end of your block, while
flipping the bird at your neighbor because she drives too slow?
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