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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 03:06 PM


None of your after market programs that run on Windows XP will run on Ubuntu. There are cheap or free programs to do the same function but sometimes they do not have all the bells and whistles you are used to.

One option is to setup a dual boot system where it asks you which OS you want to boot when you first turn it on. That way you can try Ubuntu or any other version of Linux and still go back to Windows with a reboot. You would be able to try programs like Gimp for picture editing to see if it does what you want.

My feeling is that running Windows XP with Firefox or Chrome and Avast, you should not have a problem. Just to be on the safe side, I use a password manager which is encrypted. If someone did get only my system, they would find it very very hard to get to any sensitive information.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 03:11 PM


thank you...I'm not sure what an after market program is..like photoshop? Would Picasa still work? I like the idea of the dual boot idea to try it out. How would I do that? Should or can I even get rid of IExplorer? How do I set up an encrypted password?



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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 03:31 PM


I believe most, if not all, of the Linux distributions still run as "Live" DVDs/CDs.

You burn the disc, and boot your system from the DVD/CD drive... and it all runs in memory - doesn't even touch the hard drive.... all to "test" the distribution out before installing it/them. Of course when you turn off the system, you lose everything you didn't save to a permanent memory source.

No need for a dual-boot install if there's a live CD/DVD of the distribution. Might run slightly slower while only in RAM, but still gives one a good idea of the interface, default software, etc.

One can uninstall, or install, many different choices of open-source software when installed (even in RAM-only, but you lose the change when you shut the system down).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD




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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 04:06 PM


After market programs are ones that you purchased and put on your computer after Windows XP was installed. Most of those programs came on a CD or DVD and you had to pay money for them.

Programs like Firefox and Adobe Reader were downloaded and you can do the same for Linux. Chrome is also a good choice.

The password manager I use is called eWallet and it is not free. I purchased a copy for my Laptop, my iPhone and my Nexus 7 tablet. It runs under Windows, IOS and Android. They all sync over wireless. I keep several hundred username and passwords in it. It is an old program so there may be newer, or better ones, around now. I have heard that Lastpast is a good one but have never used it.

Many of the Linux versions come with a loader that allows you to run from memory or put it onto your hard drive. They will give you the option for creating a dual boot. Dual boot can be more difficult to setup as you need to create a partition for Linux to run in. The program normally will do it for you but it may ask questions that you may not understand.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 04:08 PM


It looks like there is a version of Picasa for Linux.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/desktop/image_viewing/goog...
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[*] posted on 4-29-2014 at 07:56 AM


Options exist to keep XP are available. Third parties are offering to keep the security holes repaired that Norton and Mcaffe do not address. Seems like these 3rd parties services are not free. Putting OS7 or 8 on an old machine probably requires internal hardware upgrade. And going to a new technology refereed to in the other posts is not what we wanted to do. What we did as bought a new machine. Non touch and went to OS8.1 Upgrade. Non touch works fine. After a steep learning curve all is well. The old printer works after finding the correct driver.
An even better solution would be a new machine with OS8.. then pay someone to install OS7 which would be the easiest upgrade of all, and result in the best WIN OS ever.
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[*] posted on 4-29-2014 at 10:55 AM


Here is what I did with one of my older computers that still used XP:

I saw that Windows 7 or 8 costs about $100 dollars, although you could download a copy for as cheap as about $70 dollars. So I called around to these many Asian computer shops by my house, and Craig's list, and I found somebody do install a new copy of Windows 7 for $60 dollars, and they also threw in Office for free. Great deal, and my old computer is back up and running. Sadly you have to do a clean install, although you could back up some of your old programs.

I also like Linux ( Ubuntu) because a while back some nuts were trying to hack my computer, and re-route it, and from time to time I have been hit by viruses all on my own. So someone turned me onto Linux awhile back, telling me that Linux is pretty much virus free, because most of the viruses are written for Windows operating system, although any operating system
could be hit with a virus, the odds greatly favor you, if you're using Linux or Mac computers. Linux also seems to run faster on my older computer than Windows.

So I also went to the Ubuntu website, and downloaded:

Download Ubuntu Desktop

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

I picked my flavour, 64 bit or 32 bit.

I downloaded Ubuntu.

and then went to this page because I wanted both operation systems Windows 7 and Linux on my computer, and I wanted to try it first on a bootable USB Stick.

How to create a bootable USB stick
on Ubuntu

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on...

I then went to this site and downloaded the universal USB Installer that you will used to download Linux on you USB stick and be able to bootup Linux.


http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as...

This was very easy to do, and the hardest part for me, was getting into the screen on start up, F-12, or F-2 on most computers, so you get your computer to first boot from a USB stick.

I tried Linux out a little bit on the USB stick. It was working fine, but this "try out version" doesn't work as good, as the one you put on your hard drive for some reason. ( a few years ago I downloaded the "try out version" and it worked very well, but then one day it crashed)

So the next time I started up my computer. I just installed Ubuntu onto my hardrive, and choose to keep Windows 7 too. I took out my USB stick, and went back to the boot screen and set it back to where it was before.

Now I have both operating systems on my computer. I would definely try out Linux first, because it's takes a while to get use to, including the different ( free) softwear that you could download.

I haven't tried it, but I hear that Gimp may be an open source alternative to Adobe Photoshop, although if you really want to. I also understand you can run "Photoshop" from Linux, but you must first download a Windows interface first.
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[*] posted on 4-29-2014 at 11:53 AM


Barry,
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[*] posted on 5-3-2014 at 07:46 PM


FUNNY!! I see that microsoft updated xp once yesterday and just got through doing a another, today HHMMM:?::?::?:
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[*] posted on 5-3-2014 at 08:09 PM


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FUNNY!! I see that microsoft updated xp once yesterday and just got through doing a another, today HHMMM:?::?::?:



I think it's funny that those of us who use Apple products don't have threads begging for solutions that go on and on. XP is how old? It is DOS based? Wow! I don't have time for that.:P
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