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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Bingo Tom! The people who think they are more powerful than God are really something. The climate has always been changing, and the sea levels as
well... long before man was here... and long after we are gone. |
You mean God is rising the seas and then lowering them? Doesn't he have better things to do?
"Oh, too many polar bears now. I'll have to warm those polar caps a bit"
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Bingo Tom! The people who think they are more powerful than God are really something. The climate has always been changing, and the sea levels as
well... long before man was here... and long after we are gone. |
David, does pollution change the environment? |
As a general rule, pollution meaning the ugly smog and dirty rivers that existed when I was a kid in the 60's-70's (that we cleaned up), I don't like
it anymore than you.
However, some are spinning the meaning to serve their special interests, so I have some questions to be clear what you are asking:
The environment or the climate?
Man made pollution or something else?
What is pollution? When the natural gas CO2, that all plants breathe to live is called a pollutant, in order to tax us and hurt the economy, then it
kind of takes away the meaning of the word.
Thank you.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Bingo Tom! The people who think they are more powerful than God are really something. The climate has always been changing, and the sea levels as
well... long before man was here... and long after we are gone. |
David, does pollution change the environment? |
As a general rule, pollution meaning the ugly smog and dirty rivers that existed when I was a kid in the 60's-70's (that we cleaned up), I don't like
it anymore than you.
However, some are spinning the meaning to serve their special interests, so I have some questions to be clear what you are asking:
The environment or the climate?
Man made pollution or something else?
What is pollution? When the natural gas CO2, that all plants breathe to live is called a pollutant, in order to tax us and hurt the economy, then it
kind of takes away the meaning of the word.
Thank you. |
David, were those dirty rivers with the toxic sludge created by man? Did they affect the environment?
If so, should we care or just rely on God to clean up the mess?
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rts551
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Think I'll make a little hole in the OZONE today... got nothing better to do.
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David K
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Zac, you missed where I said that WE (man, Americans, etc.) cleaned up the mess from that era. It effected our environment, sure... But did it change
the global climate? Hardly! Just one volcano can do far more damage than man. Volcanos are natural, and the earth deals with it.
Have some faith in the planet, Nature, God, something! Otherwise you will never be happy, and is that any way to live?
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Zac, you missed where I said that WE (man, Americans, etc.) cleaned up the mess from that era. It effected our environment, sure... But did it change
the global climate? Hardly! Just one volcano can do far more damage than man. Volcanos are natural, and the earth deals with it.
Have some faith in the planet, Nature, God, something! Otherwise you will never be happy, and is that any way to live? |
I wonder if Cherynoble affected the environment.
Don't worry David, I'm plenty happy.
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David K
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The Soviet Union (big government at the max) and Eastern Europe under communism (or as they called is 'socialism')... actually killed forests with
their pollution and lack of safegaurds or lack of ownership by people.
Free enterprise, capitalist corporations and private ownership is what cleaned up America because the people (customers/ stockholders/ voters)
demanded it. When government dictates from the top down, as in ultra big government countries, nobody is responsible.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | The Soviet Union (big government at the max) and Eastern Europe under communism (or as they called is 'socialism')... actually killed forests with
their pollution and lack of safegaurds or lack of ownership by people.
Free enterprise, capitalist corporations and private ownership is what cleaned up America because the people (customers/ stockholders/ voters)
demanded it. When government dictates from the top down, as in ultra big government countries, nobody is responsible. |
excuse me? corporations, private ownership. free enterprise cleaned it up....I guess you think this was all done without government intervention?
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David K
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Try reading it again... I said voters played a part.
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rts551
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I quoted you ...so what you said was
"Free enterprise, capitalist corporations and private ownership is what cleaned up America because the people (customers/ stockholders/ voters)
demanded it. When government dictates from the top down, as in ultra big government countries, nobody is responsible."
Implying government played only a negative role... Integrity David, Integrity.
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David K
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That's okay, we have had 8 years of big government in the senate, and the people have spoken. The House was corrected 2 years ago, and the White House
will changed in 2 more years. The longest and worst recovery in our history will finally accelerate and get people back their dignity and off food
stamps! Now, if only we can get the trillions spent back... more money spent the last 6 years than all the previous administrations/ congresses,
combined... and for what??!!
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bajadogs
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DK,
Your ignorant, myopic delusions belong off-topic. I've asked many times and have never received a logical answer as to why and how you get away with
such nonsense while refusing to go off-topic.
Because you don't participate in off-topic don't you think none of us should have a clue that you are such a right winger? It's so offensive and
childish. I apologize for this non-Baja post and so should you! Knock it off!
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajadogs | DK,
Your ignorant, myopic delusions belong off-topic. I've asked many times and have never received a logical answer as to why and how you get away with
such nonsense while refusing to go off-topic.
Because you don't participate in off-topic don't you think none of us should have a clue that you are such a right winger? It's so offensive and
childish. I apologize for this non-Baja post and so should you! Knock it off! |
obviously fourty-two thousand one hundred and fifty-seven posts buys you special consideration?
[Edited on 12-11-2014 by willardguy]
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Tioloco
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That is a staggering number. That is a serious commitment.
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rts551
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9.5 per day for more than 12 years. thats every day for 12 years. THATS NOT JUST COMMITMENT. No wonder he has to make some stuff...its the only
way to keep the count going.
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willardguy
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yup, that's a buttload of whoppers and doozies!
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Tioloco
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I think I am good with 2 stars.....
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | That's okay, we have had 8 years of big government in the senate, and the people have spoken. The House was corrected 2 years ago, and the White House
will changed in 2 more years. The longest and worst recovery in our history will finally accelerate and get people back their dignity and off food
stamps! Now, if only we can get the trillions spent back... more money spent the last 6 years than all the previous administrations/ congresses,
combined... and for what??!! |
Just a fyi, Obama has created more jobs than W and H Bush combined. Not exactly sure how you qualify your statement As for the trillions, are you referring to the unfunded wars or tax breaks for
the corporations and billionaires?
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Tioloco
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I only have 2 stars.... forgive me for my naïveté..So what does it take to get a thread moved to OFF TOPIC? Seems there are only a handful of posters
over there.
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MMc
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We all need a place to shine, this is DK's.
He does love Baja but he does not spend much time there. He spends a couple of long weekends and maybe a odd week per year. I don't think he's gone
south without a report.
| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | 9.5 per day for more than 12 years. thats every day for 12 years. THATS NOT JUST COMMITMENT. No wonder he has to make some stuff...its the only
way to keep the count going. |
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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