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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 06:28 PM


RedHillTown, I do not MOCK anyone... I offer an alternative answer TO CONSIDER. I do not name call or make personal insults, despite being the receiving end of so many... all because I CHALLENGE the PC book answer to these statements. Show me any place I called someone a name that I have been called (by many) here... I don't play dirty.

I do not trust all government answers or most special interest group statements. They have motives for changing the truth, as in Al Gore's false charts. Science is NEVER conclusive, but instead a continuous collection of data with changing answers to continued observations.

The Internet should be a place to get information, but not what you should think about it... Use your own brain to process the data, not Al Gore's.




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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 07:50 PM


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This is just one sector, fishes. Control of atmospheric pollution is out of "our" hands. The biggest CO/CO2 emitter in the world is not the US anymore, it's China. And you can be sure they don't care sh-t about any regulations, their emissions have tripled in the last few years, while emissions by the US are flat or even decreased. These emissions increase sea water acidity - globally. Including SOC. Plus, they affect the ozone hole, the climate change, but hey - nobody believes these tales anyway, it's all made up by crazy greenpiece yippies, right?...


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/special/2014-03/05/c_13316...





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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 07:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
RedHillTown, I do not MOCK anyone... I offer an alternative answer TO CONSIDER. I do not name call or make personal insults, despite being the receiving end of so many... all because I CHALLENGE the PC book answer to these statements. Show me any place I called someone a name that I have been called (by many) here... I don't play dirty.

I do not trust all government answers or most special interest group statements. They have motives for changing the truth, as in Al Gore's false charts. Science is NEVER conclusive, but instead a continuous collection of data with changing answers to continued observations.

The Internet should be a place to get information, but not what you should think about it... Use your own brain to process the data, not Al Gore's.


Your obsession with Al Gore is perplexing.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/al-gore-inconvenient-truth-e...





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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 08:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
RedHillTown, I do not MOCK anyone... I offer an alternative answer TO CONSIDER. I do not name call or make personal insults, despite being the receiving end of so many... all because I CHALLENGE the PC book answer to these statements. Show me any place I called someone a name that I have been called (by many) here... I don't play dirty.

I do not trust all government answers or most special interest group statements. They have motives for changing the truth, as in Al Gore's false charts. Science is NEVER conclusive, but instead a continuous collection of data with changing answers to continued observations.

The Internet should be a place to get information, but not what you should think about it... Use your own brain to process the data, not Al Gore's.


There you go again!

:lol::lol::lol:

What poppyc-ck would you spout if you didn't have your 10 year old punching bag, al gore?

:light: I think al gore would make a great presidential candidate for 2016 :light:

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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 08:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
RedHillTown, I do not MOCK anyone...I do not name call or make personal insults, Show me any place I called someone a name that I have been called (by many) here... I don't play dirty.

...... as in Al Gore's false charts.
... Use your own brain to process the data, not Al Gore's.

All out of context, but i'd say as hypocritical as one can get. Blanket statement, everything old Al says is false? Just because he's richer, smarter, and more informed than you are?? Not to mention, better looking......

You lectured on thinking; true, good discipline. But before one thinks, one should LISTEN, so one has something to think about. Some have both in-boxes and out-boxes, and some are sadly lacking in the former. When you speak, you wish people would listen to you, and think about what you're saying. The world works both ways, dood.

When more than just a few people are trying to tell you something, you can take it one of two ways. They're all out to get you! There's a 'Get DK Club' who just like ganging up because you are SO GAWDDANGED RIGHT ALL THE TIME. That would be thinking of your next response, but not listening to what's being said... especially when it comes from many different sources. The other option is, maybe... just maybe, you should pay attention because you just may be blowing smoke out of your 4th point of contact (parachute landing-fall series).

Many 'thinkers' are too busy thinking their own myopic standpoints, already setting up their next argument of defense rather than listening to what's being said to them. Nobody's out to get you, DK. There's no jealous Cabal here. You Da Man when it comes to missions, maps, and your 2-week-a-year trips to everywhere in Baja since you were born. Tell me, do you suffer stigmata too? Do your palms bleed? I've never seen such suffering and Martyrdom since the Tamhoor.......... nevermind.

Drive on, dood. Tell me again (just me, I'm not in any 'gang') of just how persecuted you are for stating your freedom of beliefs. It is after all somewhat entertaining. Also expound on how you "just want to make friends on Baja Nomad" but pizz SO MANY people off that you think there's a cult of persecutors here? You were born with two ears and one mouth, and should be used accordingly; maybe your next lesson-goal? Or will your ten fingers win out?




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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 10:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
RedHillTown, I do not MOCK anyone... I offer an alternative answer TO CONSIDER. I do not name call or make personal insults, despite being the receiving end of so many... all because I CHALLENGE the PC book answer to these statements. Show me any place I called someone a name that I have been called (by many) here... I don't play dirty.

I do not trust all government answers or most special interest group statements. They have motives for changing the truth, as in Al Gore's false charts. Science is NEVER conclusive, but instead a continuous collection of data with changing answers to continued observations.

The Internet should be a place to get information, but not what you should think about it... Use your own brain to process the data, not Al Gore's.


JEEZZ Dk it seems every thread I see you postin on your always defending or justifying yourself except for the Mission stuff I aint hatin on ya but you seem to know everything about nothing maybe take a VACA to Baja and reflect




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face up and make your stand and realize that your living in the golden years
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[*] posted on 3-19-2015 at 10:57 PM


Ok, well I see you all have me beat so I surrender...

I am not justifying myself because I am not telling you what to think, only to think for yourselves. I know some of you need government to think for you, but be careful, that's how freedom is lost throughout history.

As for my bringing up Al Gore...

I just think it funny that an out-of-work politician can make millions selling carbon credits while flying in his private jet between his heated and air conditioned mansions while telling everyone else how they should live, drive, and be green!!! Why do some of you worship or are mesmerized by him instead of supporting a strong America and more freedom for people, which means less power to bureaucrats.

Finally, I am sharing my thoughts with you as friends. Just discussion... I am not trying to make anyone hate me unless politics controls you in such a way... that is too bad if it does. I am not so political as I am people oriented. I just like talking to people about various things. 99% of Nomads don't get bothered by this, but a half dozen or so do, and have to make it a negative. I really hope for a positive outcome for everyone. You just can't please all the people all the time!




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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 12:01 AM


"Sigh... is it you like to dump guilt on yourself and others? Eating shrimp? Cows cause global warming, so stop eating carne asada! LOL"

DK...how in the hades can you say that is not mocking????????

You gotta burst yer bubble. That IS mocking.

And I get your point as to not insulting fellow Nomads but you throw bombs such as this and then retreat to "Oh, I didn't MEAN THAT"...

I disagree with you with often and I agree with you often...I 'like' you on Facebook with your Mission work. But when you mock the destruction caused by shrimping in the Sea of Cortez I for one ain't gonna stand by and let you get away with it. :fire:
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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 01:06 AM


How did shrimping get into this? Thank you for the Like on FB.




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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 09:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
How did shrimping get into this? Thank you for the Like on FB.



How did Al Gore get into this?..........david?
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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 09:20 AM


How did DK get into this? PIC from the "Dead Sea" Yesterday







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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 09:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
How did shrimping get into this?


perhaps because shrimp fishing is one of the primary activities destroying the sea, eh?
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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 09:51 AM


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How did Al Gore get into this?


some peoples comprehension of global warming is stuck in 2006
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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 10:05 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

As for my bringing up Al Gore...

I just think it funny that an out-of-work politician can make millions selling carbon credits while flying in his private jet between his heated and air conditioned mansions while telling everyone else how they should live, drive, and be green!!!


why do you criticize people for their success?

there is nothing wrong with making money on carbon credit trading. in fact, such an approach of pollution credit trading is a great free market solution to pollution problems

al gore is a powerful spokesman for climate change concerns, he can be an environmentalist without having to live like an ascetic monk

just like an individual can be a capitalist without being a greedy, self-centered glutton
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[*] posted on 3-20-2015 at 10:10 AM


I am jealous, that's all it is goat! :lol:



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[*] posted on 3-21-2015 at 11:37 AM


For a glimpse of how much has changed in 95 years read "A Sand County Almanac" by Aldo Leopold- (ISBN 0-345-34505-3)

The sections in chapters about Chihuahua and Sonora, called "The Green Lagoons," describe the weeks he spent in the Delta when it was wild and full of life.

Leopold canoed the delta with his brother in the fall of 1922 and lived off the land: eating game birds, fish and even managing to find wells for freshwater that flowed under the muddy or brackish surface water.

"The problem was water. The lagoons were saline; the river, where we could find it, was too muddy to drink. At each new camp we dug a well. Most wells, however, yielded only brine from the Gulf. We learned, the hard way, where to dig for water. When in doubt about a new well, we lowered the dog by his hind legs. If he drank freely, it was the signal for us to beach the canoe, kindle the fire, and pitch the tent."

He was a talented writer, a passionate ecologist/environmentalist, a skilled outdoorsman, and a trained scientist & naturalist. He loved the vast wetlands of his home state of Wisconsin, and like many snowbirds, headed south to explore Mexico's waterways.

His story of the vanished delta is well detailed re: the various plants, birds, fish, etc. he and his brother encountered. They saw many animals now long gone from that area (cranes, deer), and most desired to see a jaguar- the top of the predator pyramid in that region. (They never did see one.)

Highly recommended for a glimpse of what has been lost in the last century from that region.

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I bet the Colorado river delta was a beautiful place in its natural state. Did the Kumeyaay live there?




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