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Bajatripper
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  |
The people of tecate don't care if cops fłeece gringos. 99% of gringos in tecate are passing thru and don't even purchase so much as a taco. The
cops are smart to fleece these transients, as no local gives a flip. |
We should just consider it a tax for using the roads through the municipality, in line with an airport exit tax. Averaged out over all of the visitors
who pass through, it's mere pennies a piece. And, best of all, it's spent locally, so it stimulates economic activity in the city/region.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajacamper |
And just because you and many others have totally bought into the biggest scam in history, does not mean that it is. Consensus is not science. A
bunch of folks getting grant money to come to the conclusions wanted by their grantors will usually result in more grant money. I know this is a
difference of opinion and not in line with the pc view The global warming crowd will tolerate anything except a differing view.
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Boy, talk about misdirection! "[J]ust because you and many others" includes something like...what is it?...99% of the scientific community?
You follow that up with "[c]onsensus is not science." Of all things for you to introduce into the conversation.
And, my personal favorite, "[a] bunch of folks getting grant money to come to the conclusions wanted by their grantors will usually result in more
grant money." Yes, my friend, we liberals have such deep, deep pockets that we are able to fund 99% of the scientific community to fill up their
reports with those bought conclusions. In classic misdirection, you take the very (and only) method to support your very narrow,
unfounded-on-anything-remotely-scientific opinion and apply it to the other side.
Unfortunately, most media outlets no longer do any investigative journalism so this methodology is allowed to pass as and "equal but opposite"
perspective when in reality it should be laughed out of the room. Yours isn't simply an opinion that "the Global-warming crowd won't tolerate." Wish
it were so simple. The truth is that we are on the border of doing great harm to the Human Race (the planet will survive whether we're here
or not), but people like yourself--who allow this nonsense to get traction, if only among the uninformed--only serve to prolong the day that we
finally come to terms with it and do something about it. I only hope, for my kids' sake, that it isn't too late.
No, my friend, our divergent views on the effects of global warming are far from "a difference of opinion." One is based on the realities of
undisputable facts backed by science while the other belongs among books that begin with "Once upon a time..."
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Perhaps we should ask the Tecate cops for their opinion on Global warming, Palm tree growth and Vidalia onions as long as we are on the subject. The
lil pudgy guy is a registered demopublican....
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | Perhaps we should ask the Tecate cops for their opinion on Global warming, Palm tree growth and Vidalia onions as long as we are on the subject. The
lil pudgy guy is a registered demopublican.... |
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: Originally posted by ncampion | | As usual, DK gets blamed for injecting a political view into a non-political thread, when actually it was bajabuddha, as
bajacamper pointed out. And or course chuckie blindly piles right on. Come on children, really.
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ncampion, go back to page one and my original post; then read (DK's BFF) bajacamper's ...... I believe the FIRST mention of any ''blamed for injecting
a political view into a non-political thread" was not me, but DK's champion and most ardent supporter.
My point was that according to our Resident Expert on Everything Baja, if it didn't happen to him it isn't "universal", even though event after event
has been reported. I stayed on-topic, chumly.
Here, let me help;
| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha | I'm afraid I have to agree 100% with DK on this one. Just because it happens to a lot of people, and is increasing blatantly, but didn't happen to
HIM does mean it doesn't happen to EVERYBODY UNIVERSALLY. After all, the corrupt cops can't pull everyone over all at the same time, right? Besides,
he was just there and wasn't hassled, and hadn't changed since the last time he was there, so therefore there isn't a growing problem because he
didn't see it happen, therefore it doesn't exist.
In David's world. Viva OZ !! |
Now, on topic, I've been stopped a half-dozen times in Tecate for mordida, and used good manners and bad Spanish with a little firmness and haven't
paid mordida.....yet..... there at least. Far's 'transient tourists not leaving any money there' that's a bunch of flat-out BS. The OP mentioned he
used to spend time and money there; I always gas up just south of town, going and coming. A shake-down is a shake-down, and it's a crime. When done
by a cop it's a double-crime, and I don't care how you paint it. Tecate IS NOTORIOUS, and all it does is put a bad rub on a possible great vacation.
No wonder tourism is down across the board in Baja.
I thought the OP was a good thread. Don't blame me for the train wreck on the political agendas: prove what I did or please, STFU.
Big poo-poo-head. 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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I like Chuckie's approach.
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I wish it was possible to know all things Baja, but I don't think it is possible, and it is sure NOTHING I have ever claimed. There will always be
more Baja that I don't know than I do know... and that is why it is magic and will be special to me for all my life.
The thing you don't want to accept is that I willingly SHARE all my Baja data (not all personal data, but in books, magazines, etc.) to increase
awareness and lust for this great peninsula. Informed Baja Nomads are NOT the threat to keeping Baja beautiful, just the opposite is true.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha | | Quote: Originally posted by ncampion | | As usual, DK gets blamed for injecting a political view into a non-political thread, when actually it was bajabuddha, as
bajacamper pointed out. And or course chuckie blindly piles right on. Come on children, really.
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ncampion, go back to page one and my original post; then read (DK's BFF) bajacamper's ...... I believe the FIRST mention of any ''blamed for injecting
a political view into a non-political thread" was not me, but DK's champion and most ardent supporter.
My point was that according to our Resident Expert on Everything Baja, if it didn't happen to him it isn't "universal", even though event after event
has been reported. I stayed on-topic, chumly.
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Ok Buddha, Let me help you.
DK's post #2 was completely on topic, your post # 11 was the one that was derogatory to DK. Then BajaBoy jumped in against DK in post # 14 and # 16.
BajaCamper didn't post till # 20 in support of DK's position.
You were clearly the originator of the OT ranting. I've noticed this same thing happen several other times on this board.
That's the last I'm saying about this. As Mark Twain said, “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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Sorry I confused the issue with facts. My first post was on topic about Tecate corruption. I call BS when I see it, and I am guilty as charged of
noticing it more than once from someone who's far more notorious than I of hijacking threads for personal political aggrandizement.
If you're going to count posts and state facts, don't forget post #15 (DK's) of your "he-said-she-said" Your Honor.
"The sun may kiss the morning sky.
The bird may kiss the butterfly,
The dew may kiss the morning grass,
And you, dear soul,
Farewell."
[Edited on 6-15-2015 by bajabuddha]
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Can't we all just get along??? Buddah, I don't want to fight with you... and being an old man now, I might say something that sounds to others as
combative, but I don't intend it to be such. I am sorry.
ncampion, thank you for understanding me better!
Now, how about a big VIVA BAJA, and let's all have a fun summer!!
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ncampion
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Amen!!!!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Can't we all just get along??? Buddah, I don't want to fight with you... and being an old man now, I might say something that sounds to others as
combative, but I don't intend it to be such. I am sorry.
ncampion, thank you for understanding me better!
Now, how about a big VIVA BAJA, and let's all have a fun summer!! |
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Sometimes "agreeing" is not understanding. 
And we understand many of your points.....some of us just don't agree.
[Edited on 6-16-2015 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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chuckie
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Amen Brother!
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(Can we still post in this thread or is it closed?)
| Quote: Originally posted by junkyarddog | 'send backs' to the US side because we could no longer bring in our favorite foods to sustain our 6-9 month stays in the sun in Baja. Freezers with
$700 worth of our favorite meats and cheeses that were just not available in rural Baja had to be disposed of back in the US before we could re-enter
with our now empty freezers.
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I think you are trying to get support on your “food importing practice” by mixing too many things in the bowl.
The cops’ corruption is there and it’s hard to deny or justify. But it has nothing to do with you trying to bring quantities above what is allowed
for a tourist.
I understand that you don’t consider yourself a typical tourist, and that you are coming in for 6 to 9 months (I assume you have some type of visa,
since as a visaless tourist you could only stay for a maximum of 180 days, which is slightly less than 6 months –remember 31 day months-).
Even if Baja California and BCS are still considered “Region Fronteriza” that allow for the residents to have a different import regime, if you
are not a resident, you can’t apply for those benefits, and even if you were, it has a cap of 150 USD per day per person (with a 400 cap per car) so
this can’t be part of your argument either.
( I imagine in that same Tecate Border a Mexican trying to cross to the States 4 pounds of chiles jalapeños, 10 pounds of tortillas, some machaca
and some avocados and I can’t but see him 6 months in jail)
So what was “tolerated” in the past will not necessary still be tolerated in the present of the future. And that is what it was (or still is);
Toleration. You can’t bring more that what is in a list in this link;
http://www.senasica.gob.mx/includes/asp/download.asp?IdDocum...
which says basically that you can bring up to 3 kg of packaged cheese and up to 5 kg of “processed” meat.
“Fresh, refrigerated or frozen beef, packaged and stamped by the corresponding health authority” is FORBIDDEN REGARDLESS OF ORIGIN…
more info: http://www.senasica.gob.mx/?Idioma=2&id=3694
There is always the "legal importation" process, (you will have to pay taxes...)
I think we should thank the universe when we get away with our little misdemeanours but we should not think we are entitled to them...
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If you want to stay in Baja forever... eat Ciruelas Del Mogote in La Paz
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Thanks for the links pacocacho.
You said "So what was “tolerated” in the past will not necessary still be tolerated in the present of the future."
That's the truth. Mexico is getting much more formal at the border. Things have certainly changed in terms of what you can take to Mexico at the
crossing I use - San Ysidro. And I think it's no so much the laws have changed, it's more about enforcing the laws. They turned me around once because
I had a outboard motor in my trunk (and I said I was willing to pay an import fee - nope) and a friend of mine was not allowed to bring small house
plants across the border. She had to go back to the US too.
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Must change like the wind.....I went through Tecate in February with a freezer loaded with Venison, Elk, Antelope and game birds....I was asked what
was in it and told them.....They asked a few questions about what did the various things taste like and sent me on my way.....Same freezer came back
full of fish....
(Chicken tastes a lot like rattlesnake)
[Edited on 6-16-2015 by chuckie]
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | Must change like the wind.....I went through Tecate in February with a freezer loaded with Venison, Elk, Antelope and game birds........
[Edited on 6-16-2015 by chuckie] |
Chuckie,
What did you do? Rob a taxidermist's place?
Don't believe everything you think....
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chuckie
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Mostly roadkill.....
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All in one big bag. Great for sausage or "stew".
Back on point. I have never been questioned much about what I have in the small freezer I carry, but it ain't $700 dollars worth either.
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