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Bajaboy
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Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista  | Bajaboy- rather than wondering if weather is getting more or less "predictable" many people are wondering if weather is getting more erratic and/or
extreme.
Recent local examples include highest recorded sea surface temperatures in the eastern Pacific, yet snow in the Sierras in July. Those are pretty
radical extremes for the summer months.
Those extreme variations over short periods of time are what create concern. They add to the unpredictability of forecasting, and also indicate some
elements of climate change that have been studied and recorded by researchers.
Here's a discussion of this observation:
"Just this week, a new article appeared in the journal Nature that provides more evidence of a connection between extreme weather and global warming.
This falls on the heels of last week’s article which made a similar connection. So, what is new with the second paper? A lot.
"Extreme weather can be exacerbated by global warming either because the currents of atmosphere and oceans change, or it can be exacerbated through
thermodynamics (the interaction of heat, energy, moisture, etc.). Last week’s study dealt with just the thermodynamics. This week’s study presents a
method to deal with both.
"The authors, Daniel Horton, Noah Diffenbaugh and colleagues used a new technique to tease apart the complex influences of warming on changes to
atmospheric circulation. Dr. Horton told me,
"Our study focuses on the need to understand the underlying physical causes of extreme weather events, and to systematically test whether the
probability of those underlying conditions has changed in recent decades. Events that are so extreme that they fall outside of our historical
experience often result from a suite of complex interacting factors. To better understand these factors we’ve developed a method that allows us to
partition the climate influences."
For the complete report go to https://www.skepticalscience.com/more-evidence-gw-intensifyi...
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I stand by my statement. Weather in California used to be very predictable depending on where one lived. Over the past 10 years or so, things have
gotten less predictable.
With that, we've also had some extreme weather but as David said, weather can be extreme. I suspect this year Southern California and Baja/Sur will
see extreme rain. I just spent a good part of my month in Bahia Asuncion replacing roofing, weather proofing, etc.
The science is there to support man made climate change regardless of what someone on Nomads tries to suggest.
Mas, I can say that we are making changes in our lives and trying to educate our next generation with regards to man's impact on Mother Earth. I
guess the alternative would be so simple 
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rts551
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If you are always looking behind you, you will never know where you are going.
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rts551
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Can you imagine trying to drive while always looking in the review mirror?
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Whale-ista
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So- forget considering history: how about making history?
"An inch of rain was collected at Lindbergh Field, the National Weather Service said, which made Saturday the wettest July day in the region’s history
and set a record for the wettest July ever."
The thunder claps that woke me yesterday were part of a very unstable storm cell and included lightning strikes that knocked out power to almost 4000
people in my neighborhood. The noise rattled windows and set off car alarms.
Weird, wet and wild weather, and the El Niño hasn't even "officially" begun!
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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carlosg
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| Quote: Originally posted by Whale-ista | So- forget considering history: how about making history?...
...The thunder claps that woke me yesterday were part of a very unstable storm cell and included lightning strikes that knocked out power to almost
4000 people in my neighborhood. The noise rattled windows and set off car alarms.
Weird, wet and wild weather, and the El Niño hasn't even "officially" begun! |
Yesterday noon right before our team's soccer match at 4S Ranch in Rancho Bernardo in San Diego, the tournament was canceled for the day due to the
fact that lightning struck the field where my son's team was to play a match, my two sons explained told me how the earth shook, the unbelievable
thunder and intense blue light that took place... it was scary and many children were crying and very surprised of what just had happened...
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Whale-ista
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Meanwhile, elsewhere in the Pacific...
Hawaii Just Got Hit By A July Snow Storm (Seriously) http://t.co/TW4pnbRZ4T via @HuffPost #extremeweather http://t.co/Z6HwEHw9ce
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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bajabuddha
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Not surprising, as the Big Island is just under 14,000 feet above sea level, and where it originated on the ocean floor is over 33,000 FEET. Now,
that's a beeeeg hill!
SKI HAWAII !!
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
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Whale-ista
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In addition to snow- also record rain hitting the islands.
"Rains Wednesday set records on Kauai and Maui. The rainfall total of .34 inches at Lihue Airport broke a record for the date of .21 inches set in
2001. Kahului Airport's .34 inches broke the old record of .25 set in 1958."
(FWIW, 1958 was an El Niño year)
| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha | Not surprising, as the Big Island is just under 14,000 feet above sea level, and where it originated on the ocean floor is over 33,000 FEET. Now,
that's a beeeeg hill!
SKI HAWAII !! |
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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JZ
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Damn, I always thought it was way North of there. I just drove right by there on my boat.
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chuckie
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Shell Island...
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mtgoat666
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It's a record breaking year. In today's news....
WASHINGTON (AP) — Earth dialed the heat up in June, smashing warm temperature records for both the month and the first half of the year.
Off-the-charts heat is "getting to be a monthly thing," said Jessica Blunden, a climate scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration. June was the fourth month of 2015 that set a record, she said.
"There is almost no way that 2015 isn't going to be the warmest on record," she added.
NOAA calculated that the world's average temperature in June hit 61.48 degrees Fahrenheit (16.33 Celsius), breaking the old record set last year by
0.22 degrees (.12 degrees Celsius). Usually temperature records are broken by one or two one-hundredths of a degree, not nearly a quarter of a degree,
Blunden said.
And the picture is even more dramatic when the half-year is considered...
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bezzell
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ohhhh goat, the weather's always changing. always has, always will.
I know this 'cause I like to selectively believe some things the scientists say  
(we simply took a wrong turn a couple hundred yrs ago.
ni modo)
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