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Alm
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I don't think they manipulate numbers on purpose. They just don't have enough testing facilities - probably none in SF. And where they do have it,
they only test those with symptoms. Large percentage of patients have very mild or no symptoms and spread it around without knowing. I would rather
keep an eye on the numbers and trend for the entire BC state. Small towns are not representative and people in this area move around a lot.
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SFandH
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I think the most interesting numbers are for La Paz and Cabo, both have a considerable increase.
Airports.
Didn't they both recently partially open up (hotels, restaurants, beaches) to tourism?
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | I think the most interesting numbers are for La Paz and Cabo, both have a considerable increase.
Airports.
Didn't they both recently partially open up to tourism?
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | 75 cases reported for Tijuana, 681 for La Paz; There is no way that both communities are being counted and reported the same!
I realize that the intent is to indicate trend lines for the different communities, but it is like getting mud from La Paz, and dust from TJ and you
need to get the right mix for your Baja adobe.
Edit; By the way, the La Paz airport is not an international airport
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Yeah, I dunno. But I do know TJ has been LOCKED down and the usual "walk across for the day tourist" isn't happening. I read today in the TJ online
newspaper there's a push to fine anti-maskers 4000 pesos.
Smaller places can have a higher per capita infection rate than larger places.
And, as far as the La Paz airport goes, there are plenty of infected Mexicans that could be flying in from the mainland for their summer vacation.
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La Paz is no longer an international airport???
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | But I do know TJ has been LOCKED down and the usual "walk across for the day tourist" isn't happening. I read today in the TJ online newspaper
there's a push to fine anti-maskers 4000 pesos.
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Doing everything backwards, as usual. Containment should come first.
Until recently they've been keeping ground crossings open for tourists despite the international agreement. Especially Tijuana, with mayor insisting
that a "real" closure would've caused long lines and inconvenience for locals. Checkpoints on highways would let you through if the car and driver
blend in, looking and talking like local. Airports ship viruses daily, just answer a few questions and go.
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La Paz is redesignated as an International Airport for 2021. It's in transition now.
Edit will Doug move this to off topic like all other factual info in BN?
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SFandH
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BCS headed towards Red Status
It's currently Orange.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/baja-california-sur-may-be-...
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The spreadsheet that I have been posting every 5 days or so shows numbers for cities in Baja California and municipalities in BCS, analogous to
counties in the US.
For example, Mulege includes Guererro Negro, Santa Rosalia, Heroica Mulege, and the towns in between.
For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:
https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/
There are multiple pages with a page selector on the lower-right
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This ought to make a few of you Baja Residents think twice.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/half-of-virus-patients-...
. This Democratic hoax is getting to be harder and harder to ignore!
seriously, please take this serious! Protect yourselves, and take measures to respect and protect those you come in contact with!
[Edited on 7-20-2020 by caj13]
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Mood: Delighted with 2024 and looking forward to 2025
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The takeaway here is well known to all who have spent much time in Mexico. Have an air evacuation plan in place. Know one of the many good private
medical clinics in Mexico and never go willing to a government run hospital!
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My worker who lives in La Fortuna reports several cases in La Playita just across the bridge from San Jose del Cabo. So it is on the way out the East
Cape Road.
It's hot. We are going to button up the house and head north this week. Looking forward to cool low clouds along the coast with highs in the mid 70's.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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SFandH
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21 July
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
For a breakdown of each BCS municipality, including numbers, see the following page:
https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19-por-colonia/
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Alm
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Unlikely things will get better in Baja until they do on the mainland and North of the border. Many Mexican tourists in summer, and from what I hear,
blockposts don't work. Locals are telling that SF "reten" is only there on weekends and Ensenada lets most people through.
I've been reading how they do it in United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, - amazing. Better than South Korea. In UAE they've tested half of the
population and apparently plan to test everybody. In working-class districts and migrant camps government health teams administer mandatory
nasal swabs - and then isolate positive cases, this is not up for debate. People with money can book a home visit, results given over the phone same
day, though drive-through testing centers are plentiful. To drive from Dubai to the capital Abu Dhabi you must show a fresh negative test. Service
workers - cab drivers, waiters, store clerks - are required to take frequent tests.
The result - field hospitals set up months ago for an expected surge of cases stand vacant. Restaurants, movies and resorts are operating almost
normally. Test positivity rate dropped to 0.4% - compare to average 2% in Canada, or USA where most states have over 5% positivity and some are over
20%.
The numbers in Mexico - I don't know what to think of it. Their absolute numbers are not for real. When I look at the trend of daily cases since
March for the entire BC or BCS, see bar graph under the curve - when you exclude the last 2 weeks where reports are still coming - daily cases are not
declining yet: https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/
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I wonder why the admin filters out the factual links to sources provided in this thread? Though leaves conjecture based on no data?
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | I wonder why the admin filters out the factual links to sources provided in this thread? Though leaves conjecture based on no data?
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Don't wonder. Just ask.
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Alm
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Just in case if this was a request for "factual links" - enjoy:
Blanket testing and isolation as the way to contain the virus.
An impossible thing to do in Mexico - not enough money. Too bad. Keeping one patient in ICU for 2 weeks costs more than screening a 100 and giving an
early treatment to a few. Not to mention the cost of lockdown. So they will end up paying more and it will drag for longer.
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Alm
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To give access to those who want to read. Many sources require free subscription, including scientific and medical journals.
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Alm
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You can read this and
(probably) some other WSJ articles without subscription if you want to. But if you don't want - then you don't, problem solved 
[Edited on 7-23-2020 by Alm]
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Puerto Nuevo is beginning to open up:
https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/rosarito/Regresa-poco-a-...
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