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Quote: Originally posted by elgatoloco  | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee | You are undoubtedly intelligent, Paul, and I have nothing to add to posts regarding the virus. Early on I had some comments. That was about 4
months ago. Besides, my thoughts about what's happening with the virus are not thought out as there's nothing to conclude. I think about what I
see around me.
So the question is why do you keep repeating yourself? I come away thinking you're a common conspiracist. And it doesn't matter why.
Thousands are dying everyday and you post your facts showing no one is dying?
Just plain foolish. For the record, I don't read your comments relating to the virus. I think you are wrong and don't know what you're writing.
Thoughtful discourse? Think what you want about the virus and let others decide this life/death issue themselves. Snake oil is not a cure.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Seniors, especially, must ensure they are getting adequate nutrition, exercise, fresh air, sunshine and social engagement for overall health or you
will certainly die an early death.
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We do agree on this. I would add sleep to the above list. And deep breathing.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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FYI - a lot of knowledge has been added since March 8th and you know it, maybe.
cherry picking
whatever
MAGA
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Mild COVID-19 cases can produce strong T cell response
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-08/cp-mcc081720...
"To date, there is limited evidence of reinfection in humans with previously documented COVID-19. Most studies of immune protection against SARS-CoV-2
in humans have focused on the induction of neutralizing antibodies. But antibody responses tend to wane and are not detectable in all patients,
especially those with less severe forms of COVID-19. Research in mice has shown that vaccine-induced memory T cell responses, which can persist for
many years, protect against the related virus SARS-CoV-1, even in the absence of detectable antibodies. Until now, it was not clear how
SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses relate to antibody responses or to the clinical course of COVID-19 in humans."
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Paul,
You posted info from early march. The public health knowledge/guidance has changed since early march.
Quit posting old/wrong info. Just displays your ignorance
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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toolkid, I'll bet you never met Will Rodgers .
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Yes, Dr Fauci kind of blew it there. It's a bit surprising but videos don't lie.
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So just to be clear - "right Now" are the first 2 words of the recording, and repeated a few seconds in. Thats kind of the key here. this is in
March. He also is correct that the masks don't protect you from getting sick -
and for context , this was a time when there was a serious shortage of masks available, so they were asking that those available be used for care
providers.
why the "change", it came about because we now know about asymtomatic spreaders. so the current mask mandates are all about keeping someone
unknowingly sick from becoming a Typhoid Mary!"
Like so MANY other things ToolKid posts, he has not reviewed it, he does not understand it, and apparently has zero scientific literacy!
But - we should all be thankful to Gnuey - as he is helping educate our future doctors and scientists! I use his rants and bizzare posts here in the
forum as a worksheet for my freshmen biology students as part of their developing scientific literacy unit.
So ToolKid, you will be very proud to know that 162 out of 171 students (18 year olds, 2 weeks into their college experience) correctly
identified at least 3 violations of the standards of examining claims made by you, right here in the forum!
Here is their working Guideline Gnuey, https://groundviews.org/2018/05/11/infographic-how-to-spot-f...
perhaps studying the tactics of the enemy may make you more successful in the future in convincing ANYONE of the veracity of which you spout!
Essentially ToolKid, 94.7% of Questioned College freshmen correctly identified your rants as Fake News! deal with it!
[Edited on 8-22-2020 by caj13]
[Edited on 8-22-2020 by caj13]
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Regardless of when he said it he should have known that masks help contain the spread of this virus. They knew it’s effectiveness in 1919 for the
Spanish flu. Surgeons wear them Every day in the operating room.
Yes the video was shown out of context. Who knows what came before or after. But by itself - it’s hard to understand how he could’ve said that. No
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | baja noticias web page has a story about the government hospital in la paz crashing with a lack of resources and exhausted staff.....
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Do you have a link to that, or a date? I searched the most recent pages, and the only hospital article I saw reported declining hospitalizations.
I don't know much about La Paz hospitals but there are several of them. does anyone know if allthe hospitals were swamped, or just
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http://www.choyalnews.com/2020/08/urgente-ya-colapso-el-hosp...
The article is about ISSSTE in La Paz and says the hospital is collapsing and is designated as a COVID19 contingency.
If you do a search on ISSSTE La Paz you will see that it has had problems for a very long time, it has been short on medications and doctors by 50%
for more than a year and also lacks adequate Federal Funding. The previous leader Victor Castro Cosio had to resign, the problems have continued.
There is no indication that the hospital collapsed from increase of COVID19 patients only that it collapsed in general.
https://www.elsudcaliforniano.com.mx/local/municipios/abrira...
Monday, the BCS risk level is being reduced to level 4 Orange and increased mobility and reduced restrictions are approved. Tuesday, beaches are now
officially opened until the next update, which seem to change often.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
USA CDC announced this week that 94% of COVID19 categorized deaths were the result of cofactors, and only 6% remain as a death of only one of many
respiratory illnesses, pneumonia, flu, covid.
"Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019
(COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average,
there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age
groups."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/08/30/her...
[Edited on 8-31-2020 by gnukid]
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
USA CDC announced this week that 94% of COVID19 categorized deaths were the result of cofactors, and only 6% remain as a death of only one of many
respiratory illnesses, pneumonia, flu, covid.
"Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019
(COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average,
there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age
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Most people with cofactors would live a long life if they did not get covid-19.
For example, My relative died from pneumonia, but the only reason she got pneumonia was because she was incapacitated by cancer, and in a hospital
where she was exposed To respiratory diseases while immune-compromised. So cancer is the prime factor.
In most cases Covid-19 is the prime factor causing death.
Paul, English majors should avoid trying to Be armchair scientists and armchair statisticians!
If you get covid-19, it will probably pneumonia that kills you. Your death certificate will likely list stupidity as the primary cause of death.
poor Paul was so stupid he ignored public health measures and got himself infected!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Cognitive dissonance exists the real world data doesn't support your world view.
https://www.wane.com/news/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-1...
CDC admits conflated death rates grossly inflated the Covid death numbers. 94% of CV deaths were from other causes while only suspected for CV. Out of
the 161,392 deaths in the CDC data, just six percent, about 9,700 deaths, were attributed to the coronavirus alone, yet those are still unverified,
requiring validation, actual COVID19 verified deaths remain zero.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
RT PCR test can not give a valid positive for isolation of COVID19, there is no valid testing for isolation of CV today, anywhere.
https://www.sanantonio.gov/Portals/0/Files/health/COVID19/We...
Globally, there are almost no deaths reported this week, the majority of which are reported are in Mexico where no valid testing or verification
exists?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
CV risk to health is largely mental stress. https://www.themainewire.com/2020/08/new-cdc-report-highligh...
BCS is officially reducing restrictions Tuesday and opening beaches, gyms, restaurants etc.
https://www.elsudcaliforniano.com.mx/local/municipios/abrira...
Millions globally protest fraudulent Covid cases, deaths, reporting, restrictions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SzQUrl1ob0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANmnNC_-2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goFeE-CgwAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIzLuZnb_Uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqBwlTGoEYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4w3jEe_7mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQZ8ynFAzOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-15jTsxuU1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWFwDOifyN8
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CDC admits this week, only 6% of reported COVID deaths actually died from COVID, so, of 161,392 reported deaths in USA, actually 9,682 died from
COVID19. No one died this week.
9,682 deaths of 327 million people is not a pandemic, that's %0.0000296 death rate.
The other 94% had 2-3 existing comorbidity serious illnesses that actually caused their deaths. The overwhelming majority were seniors.
The restrictions requiring isolation, sanitizer, distancing and masks caused far more harm to mental, physical and financial health and have no
relevance to health policy.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#co...
[Edited on 8-31-2020 by gnukid]
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Toolkid,
Talk about someone beating a dead horse. You must live a sad, lonely, and pathetic little existence. Let it go. Let it go.
John
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | CDC admits this week, only 6% of reported COVID deaths actually died from COVID, so, of 161,392 reported deaths in USA, actually 9,682 died from
COVID19. No one died this week.
9,682 deaths of 327 million people is not a pandemic, that's %0.0000296 death rate.
The other 94% had 2-3 existing comorbidity serious illnesses that actually caused their deaths. The overwhelming majority were seniors.
The restrictions requiring isolation, sanitizer, distancing and masks caused far more harm to mental, physical and financial health and have no
relevance to health policy.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#co...
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Pablo,
Every village needs an idiot. You are baja nomad’s village idiot. Congrats! You are making your mama proud!
Woke!
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Idaho House passes resolution to end coronavirus emergency declaration
"I refuse, when we talk about money, I refuse to sell my liberties for money," he said. "I refuse to be blackmailed for money. And I refuse to sell my
state and my blessings of my family and everything else for some federal freaking check.”
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/idaho-legislature-sp...
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | CDC admits this week, only 6% of reported COVID deaths actually died from COVID.......
[Edited on 8-31-2020 by gnukid] |
6% of death certificates listed C-19 as THE cause of death. For the other 94% :
"COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause on the death certificate in 94% of deaths (see Table 1)."
Pneumonia is listed most usually as the cause of death.
Pneumonia caused by the C-19 virus.
The reason for this is:
World Health Organization (WHO) regulations specifying that WHO member nations classify and code causes of death with the current revision of the
International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD).
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm
[Edited on 8-31-2020 by SFandH]
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Asking Questions About CoronaVirus Evidence Of Health Risks Is Reasonable
CDC Actual Leading Causes of Death
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
RT PCR Test for COVID19 Coronavirus Primer Sequence is Found in All Human DNA (Chromosome 8)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFH6IyRplH0
RT PCR Tests is inappropriate to detect a viral infection.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-sc...
COVID19 has never been purified and isolated, identified as RNA virus much like HIV which is. requirement for identification of virus
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2312-y_reference....
Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
Irrational COVID19 Test Results
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jmv.25786
CORONAVIRUS Questions
https://off-guardian.org/category/coronavirus/
COVID19 Preplanning, Simulations, Legislation well in advance of first case seed raise suspicions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4FsWreMYE
Occams Razón on COVID19
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-...
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