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BajaTed
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All know is my childhood beach @ Calafia in San Clemente is gone forever, so is the State beach park. All the businesses there on PCH are soon to go
under.
The 130 year old rail line from all the logistic bases inland that made San Diego be a strategic seaport is soon to be NO more too.
Ah yes, NO big deal.
Es Todo Bueno
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mtgoat666
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Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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Cliff and beach erosion is not sea level changing any more than are landslides in the mountains. Sand moves and cliffs fall.
Goat can look at a graph. The common sense people can look at historical photos or simply walk a pier and not get their feet wet or launch a boat at
the same ramp their grandfather's used.
Can you tell a four inch sea level rise when high tide raises the sea 60 inches, twice a day?
Anyway, the 90 year old + palm is still just above the high tide, as it was in the 1930s.
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RFClark
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Goat,
You can’t say anything about Geta’s qualifications to lead anything because of her disability, but it’s reasonable to wonder what they are?
Perhaps it’s the fact that you can’t question anything she says that makes her attractive to lead a movement that wants no discussion of its
ajenda.
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mtgoat666
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Yes! The high tide is 4 inches higher! If the engineers of yesterday built the storm drain system to drain the streets at high tide 50 years ago,
today those storm drains may no longer work effectively at high tide. This is why many coastal cities have more frequent flooding today compared to
50 years ago.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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surabi
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Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  |
And, no, I do not watch football for the cheerleaders. You clearly harbor some ill will toward men based on your comments. Why is that?
I think she crossed the line in a couple areas. Mainly from disengagement with today's youth.
[Edited on 11-29-2022 by John Harper] |
Again, you try to put words in my mouth. I never said or implied that you watch football for the cheerleaders. I implied that men would not be
interested in watching cheerleaders if they weren't presented in a sexy manner. Which I stand by. What I originally said, that really seemed to push
some male buttons here, was that football is boring and just seems to be an excuse to drink beer and ogle cheerleaders. I didn't ever say I thought
that was a terrible thing, but interesting how defensive that made some men here.
I "clearly" harbor ill will toward men? Now you sound just like JZ. (Also
aligned with JZ on trying psychoanalyze someone you really know nothing about) I could put you in touch with dozens of men who would set you straight
on that.
And I can assure you I am not disengaged from today's youth. I raised 3 kids and my house was full of kids and teenagers for over 20 years. I have 5
grandkids between the ages of 12 and 21. My 18 year old granddaughter just spent a month with me and can't wait to come back.
BTW, it's real cute how you deleted your post that I responded to, where you equated not dressing in a sexually provocative manner with never dressing
up and going about unkempt, and unwashed and wearing a potato sack.
[Edited on 11-29-2022 by surabi]
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RFClark
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Goat,
Think she writes her own material? The general opinion is no! I’m not arguing that she’s not a motivated and believable speaker. I’d simply like
to know who’s words she’s speaking.
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
Think she writes her own material? The general opinion is no! I’m not arguing that she’s not a motivated and believable speaker. I’d simply like
to know who’s words she’s speaking. |
'yes, I write my own speeches. But since I know that what I say is going to reach many, many people I often ask for input. I also have a few
scientists that I frequently ask for help on how to express certain complicated matters. I want everything to be absolutely correct so that I don’t
spread incorrect facts, or things that can be misunderstood.”'
https://www.facebook.com/gretathunbergsweden/posts/recently-...
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BajaNomad
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A lot of people feel this forum's unmoderated. Oy vey!
Perhaps people should be careful with their insinuations - or face losing credibility and/or respect for inappropriate comments/behavior??? 
Wouldn't it be wonderful if people discussed the topics - and avoided unnecessary personal ad-hominem comments about each other? 
Peace, love and fish tacos! 
[Edited on 11-29-2022 by BajaNomad]
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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I had fresh caught Dorado for dinner myself!
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RFClark
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Goat,
125 M - 150M in sea level rise in 12,000 - 14,000 years is about a CM/Year average. There have been very large variations from that average.
Your 1st chart shows about 250MM in 120 years or 2+MM per year. Your 2nd chart shows about 3+MM per year over a 25 year period. Both charts have a
margin of error grater than the difference between them and both are well below the historic average of 10MM/year.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
125 M - 150M in sea level rise in 12,000 - 14,000 years is about a CM/Year average. There have been very large variations from that average.
Your 1st chart shows about 250MM in 120 years or 2+MM per year. Your 2nd chart shows about 3+MM per year over a 25 year period. Both charts have a
margin of error grater than the difference between them and both are well below the historic average of 10MM/year. |
Clarkles,
You are not entirely stupid! You see the change: rate of sea level rise has recently increased. Slope is getting steeper. This is due to
increased GHG emissions and resulting global warming.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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RFClark
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Goat,
They probably are a part in addition to the normal warming cycle we’ve been in for a long time. Remember a few inches is a very small fraction of
hundreds of feet in sea lever rise and 25 years is even less measured against 12 -14 thousand years. That being the case, uncontrolled and controlled
burning are currently the largest part of added CO2 that we can influence. When Greta and her supporters start talking about controlling that please
let me know. I don’t think they’ve said a word on the subject to date.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
125 M - 150M in sea level rise in 12,000 - 14,000 years is about a CM/Year average. There have been very large variations from that average.
Your 1st chart shows about 250MM in 120 years or 2+MM per year. Your 2nd chart shows about 3+MM per year over a 25 year period. Both charts have a
margin of error grater than the difference between them and both are well below the historic average of 10MM/year. |
Clarkles,
You are not entirely stupid! You see the change: rate of sea level rise has recently increased. Slope is getting steeper. This is due to
increased GHG emissions and resulting global warming. |
Why did all the scientists tell us in 1979 that the biggest challenge was the poles freezing over and glaciers expanding?
[Edited on 11-30-2022 by JZ]
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https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
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The encouraging part is the growth rates in both China and India have slowed recently. Increased economic wealth leads to reduced growth according to
studies. Western Europe is in population decline.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
The encouraging part is the growth rates in both China and India have slowed recently. Increased economic wealth leads to reduced growth according to
studies. Western Europe is in population decline. |
Waiting for the pope to endorse birth control 
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mtgoat666
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Is the drought over? Don't count your chickens before they hatch!
California’s snowpack near decade high. What’s it mean for the drought?
As the new year begins, California’s Sierra is closing in on the second-largest snowpack we’ve seen at this time of year in the last two decades,
with more snow expected to pummel the mountain range in the coming days.
On Saturday, the statewide average stood at a whopping 162% of normal compared to historic averages for this time of year, just eclipsing last
year’s figure. But of the seven times in the last 20 years that California started the new year with an above-average snowpack, only twice — 2005
and 2011 — did it finish the snow season in April still above average.
“It’s just far too early to tell whether or not these storms will have an impact on the drought,” said Andrew Schwartz, lead scientist at the UC
Berkeley Central Sierra Snow Laboratory near Donner Summit. “We were in this exact same spot last year. We were way above average, and then the
faucet shut off in January through March.”
Last year, the Sierra snowpack plummeted from 160% of normal at the end of 2021 to 37% of normal by the season’s end. The last time California
closed a snow season above average was in 2019 — at 161% of normal — after ending the previous year at just 73% of normal.
Woke!
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It will never cease to boggle my mind how seemingly reasonable people can willingly ignore scientific fact. Overall, the sea level is rising. There
is no denying that, unless of course you are gleaning your information from conspiracy theory/misinformation websites of which there is no shortage.
Small island nations are begging bigger, first world countries to do something because their land is being engulfed by the rising water.
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
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If these ppl were really serious about CC they would stop polluting the Earth with their private jets and they would push for Nuclear energy.
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