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Pompano
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Registered: 11-14-2004
Location: Bay of Conception and Up North
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You rock, girl.
SiReNiTa, my old eyes needed some help, so I took this liberty...okay with you, I hope?
Quote: SiReNiTa said:
"ok i was trying really hard to not post on this issue but you will have to understand me as it is my home country that you are talking about...
.first of all the fact that mexico is a third world country is one of the reasons that many people still come here!! after all why come if it was just
another big city??
please please pleaaaaaaaaaaase don't tell us to get it together because (and this is not said to insult anyone) i know many mexican people that have
it more put together than alot of tourists i have met in my short but full life time...i have been around tourists since i was born and thank God that
most of them have been extremly nice people but there are also the not so nice ones.
YES mexico is a third world country and who cares if it doesn't like toilet paper thrown down the sour pipes!
i agree with what you said my mom said that if it's so third worl then....and i do not mean this as an insult...why bother coming here...and when you
ask when will mexico come to grips with reality
guess what pal this is our reality and yeah i will say get used to it and love it as it is, maybe it does have more potential and it is a very rich
country but it is what it is and yes it is getting better but things take time as everyone knows on this board and yes they take more time in mexico,
hey you want mexico to get better?? pay a poor childs school, get some one of the street, donate to schools and education, come and give a police
seminar for all i care
why do you want to make mexico in to a little U.S. it's not and i am sorry to disapoint you...i am aware that my words may sound agressive but to be
completely sincere i am really sad and hurt and yes angry that you comment on things like that as if no one knew the situation mexico is in...
i know as well as anyone that there is alot to do but the fact that you complain constantly and don't do anything is not going to help! the only thing
you are going to get is people to really dislike you and i am truly sorry that i am beginning to be one of them.
and please don't talk about mexican people not having guts when they work their butt's of every day to take a efw gains of rice home to their family,
they take risks when the cross the boarder legal or not, they have the guts to make people like you feel at home in our country even when they know
that alot of tourists will turn their backs and say oh stupid mexicans
oh they don't even know how to read oh they don't have this or that...let me tell you that mexicans are the bravest people i knowand i am sure tons
of people on this board will agree, they may not be rich and stuff like that but...the work through hard stuff evey day and i am proud to be a
mexican.
.and to all the people that are true baja lovers and understand whta i am talking about please take no notice of my "agressive" words...i am sorry if
i can not put this another way and i am sorry that baja nomad board has become a board where this kind of talk is present, i do not mean to offend you
but this is how i feel...
mexico and it's people may be poor and not have all the services you want but it has what it has and bless the people that understand that."
[Edited on 7-24-2008 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
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Pompano, Words of wisdom from an adult with a year or two of experience.
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SiReNiTa
Special Correspondent
Posts: 881
Registered: 5-5-2006
Location: Ensenada, B.C.S.
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Mood: Savoring life while saving the world!
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thank's pompano!!
i'm glad to see the point is made at least for those of you who care...and memo...i insist...don't mess with my mom...free speach and all that does
not give you the right to say stuff like you are saying...and once again...please leave her alone because even though i am 18 and i am no more than a
child in many ways i will not let you insult my country or my family with out a few words from me...so cut it out........please??!!
Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.
Visit me at
Http://BajaScents.Scentsy.com.mx
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shari
Select Nomad
Posts: 13048
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Being a mom and wanting to protect my daughter, I was truly hoping Sirenita wouldn't see the truly awful insults of late and respond in an angry way.
The past year we have been wresting with the decision whether to send her to canada or the usa to study and after much consultation with professional
people in her field(mostly americans) we learned that her best bet would be to study in Ensenada first as it is also affiliated with scripps institute
and maybe later do her post grad in the states. Apparently our school system is not as bad as people think depending on the individual school I guess.
I for one chose to educate my daughter here and am glad I did so.
I thank her for responding from the heart and not in a hurtful, disrespectful way...bien hecho hija.
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SiReNiTa
Special Correspondent
Posts: 881
Registered: 5-5-2006
Location: Ensenada, B.C.S.
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Mood: Savoring life while saving the world!
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oh yeah!! to all the amazing sweet people that have been helping me and my family i just wanted to say...on a happier note...i am in!!!! i got in to
univesity and am starting august 4th!!!! and i would not leave mexico if my life depended on it, the school i am going in to is one of the top 5
marine sciences schools in mexico and guess what!! it's a public school with goverment scholarships and all that so there...guess what memo?? mexican
education is the bomb and sorry if you don't like it...maybe you should come to school here too and see what the real thing is about...and i thank my
mom for raising me the way she did because of that i am what i am today... a hard core mexican teen with huge dreams and goals and no doubt that i
will reach them thank's to many people who are there to help and support us and a hard head doesn't hurt either!!
love SiReNita (by the way it's only one R memo)
Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.
Visit me at
Http://BajaScents.Scentsy.com.mx
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bajajudy
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Posts: 6886
Registered: 10-4-2004
Location: San Jose del Cabo,BCS
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Sirenita
Your post brought a flood of tears. You and all of your country people are the reason I love it here. When my friends asked...why in the world are
you moving to Mexico? I had two words...the people.
Thanks for stating what to me is the obvious.
Y FELICIDADES
SUERTE EN EL UNIVERSIDAD
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memo
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Registered: 6-23-2008
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Congratulations, Sirenta
You've got plenty of spunk, that's for sure. But as I read your response, and your mothers, I think I understand the problem is a communication
problem, because you can't possibly be responding to what I actually posted. I think I lost you when I used a rather arcane, actually French, word,
ennui. To help you understand this does not mean anything hateful, here's the definition"
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This en·nui Audio Help (ŏn-wē', ŏn'wē Pronunciation Key
n. Listlessness and dissatisfaction resulting from lack of interest; boredom: "The servants relieved their ennui with gambling and gossip about
their masters" (John Barth).
A solid use of the English language will surely help you now and in the future, no matter where you go to school. A little French doesn't hurt,
either.
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Sharksbaja
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5814
Registered: 9-7-2004
Location: Newport, Mulege B.C.S.
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Amen, Little Mermaid. Thanks for being you. Good luck in Marine Sciences. If you ever need a few fishy people connections in the States, let me know.
We have a world class marine science center right here in Newport. Lots of grad students and cutting edge science.
Oh and plenty of trees, rain and independant type folks. Just your stlye!
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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cabobaja
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Posts: 363
Registered: 9-19-2006
Location: South \"O\", Elias Calles, BCS
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Sirenita, you go girl!! I am proud to be a Mexican and American. I am proud my boys are Mexican and American and my wife is Mexican. When you run
for the office of the President, you have our vote! We are very proud of you too!!
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windgrrl
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Posts: 1335
Registered: 9-2-2006
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Viva Sirenita!
Don't feed the animals  and they'll eventually go away.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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tripledigitken
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Posts: 4848
Registered: 9-27-2006
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Can't say that I have ever reached the point that I felt bored with Baja, even when the fishing wasn't any good.
Regarding comparisons with the USA I can pass on a quote from an old veteran of Baja. It's one i'll never forget:
"in Baja if its 90% that's good enough"
If fact alot of the time it never reaches "90%" but you know that's still ok with me.
Ken
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shari
Select Nomad
Posts: 13048
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Memo...for a girl who grew up in a small town in baja, I think Sirenitas english is pretty darn good...she writes eloquent papers, speeches and
letters and while her spelling is not perfect, it's pretty good...oh yeah, she probably knows more french than most nomads too. Another cool thing is
that she called me sooooo steamed and upset and explained that she wrote that post like 7 times before she finally posted it....revised it and took
out all the angry, insulting bits she started with...this shows great restraint, education, understanding, patience and maturity...that's my girl!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Memo...for a girl who grew up in a small town in baja, I think Sirenitas english is pretty darn good...she writes eloquent papers, speeches and
letters and while her spelling is not perfect, it's pretty good...oh yeah, she probably knows more french than most nomads too. Another cool thing is
that she called me sooooo steamed and upset and explained that she wrote that post like 7 times before she finally posted it....revised it and took
out all the angry, insulting bits she started with...this shows great restraint, education, understanding, patience and maturity...that's my girl!
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Her English is quite good. Also, there is a definite difference in writing styles between what is taught in Mexico and Central America, than what is
taught in the US and Canada.
Sirena does VERY well with her English and with her message. Don't think she misunderstood the original message at all.
Memo, her response did NOT support your original post, IMHO.
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bacquito
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I think much of what has been said in these comments can best be summed up by saying that while Mexicans admire us they do not want to be like us.
bacquito
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BajaGringo
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Posts: 3922
Registered: 8-24-2006
Location: La Chorera
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
...and i thank my mom for raising me the way she did because of that i am what i am today... |
And your mom should be very proud. You remind me a lot of my Olivia who would have been 19 now. I wish you only the very best.
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fdt
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Posts: 4059
Registered: 9-7-2003
Location: Tijuana, Baja California
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Bravo Sirena, Bravo!!!!!
A darle duro. Siempre pon el ejemplo.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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vivaloha
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Education opens up many doors. Go strongly into your own bright future
Sirenita! I loved reading your enthusiasm and self-determination as you
begin your experience in university!
As far as where this post started, I believe it was something like,
"What Mexico Needs.." I heard a saying once that I think is appropriate here...
"Before criticizing others, inspect yourself"...
If you find Baja to be fatiguing or you are tired of its rugged-ness, well then, just don't
mess with it, go home, and don't worry about the baja..it will survive without your "help"..
Baja California can be a heaven or hell experience - often the determining factor is your AWARENESS in the moment.
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Bajafun777
Super Nomad
Posts: 1103
Registered: 9-13-2006
Location: Rosarito & California
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Mood: Enjoying Life with Wife In Mexico, Easy on The Easy
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When your biggest worry is just getting the basic needs for your family your joy is your family. Money is not the "Idol God" of those struggling to
try and feed, cloth, and love their family. This is true not just in Mexico but also the U.S.A. Grew up on farming camps and lived in more rural
small towns than I can count. One thing each family had in common was everyone of them loved everyone in their families and respected their parents.
The U.S.A. is struggling with everyone in their families loving each other, getting along as well as having simple respect for their parents and
authority figures. This is due to a our government pushing ithis nonesense that it's ok not to take care of yourself or your family because the
government through taxes will. We let a very precious thing get tossed into muddy waters but that muddy puddle can settle making it become clear and
good again.
I go to Baja and other parts of Mexico because I can go into the town squares and see many many families enjoying the parks with everyone in their
families. I miss that so much in the U.S.A. Now, I know we have many many things in the U.S.A. to hold dear and love but we need to fix some things
too. I love enjoying everything about the beaches in Mexico also. I just enjoy watching people being people without needing so many things like we
think we need in the U.S.A. I will always love the U.S.A. as I know the Mexicans will always love Mexico. Neither side has a "canned love affair" on
this and both of our Countries have some things to work on and fix. It]s just Mexico with its poverty has a mountain not a little hill to climb up to
fix theirs. Hopefully, we can "all" work on those things creating problems in our Countries. This can be done with our investments, social
involvement, being good examples of being people that care along with doing the right thing without needing someone to be watching us or patting us on
the back. Education of our young in Mexico and U.S.A. is the tool that will enable both Countries to have the possibilites to do these things.
I think Shari is part of that spark and Sirenita is the flame to help reach out to help fix some of these problems. I think some use too strong of
words in addressing their frustration but I do not think they are "haters." I think they just overexpress that frustration that definately grabs at
those wishing and looking for better approaches. However, It is what it is and shall become or change what everyone that really cares tries to make
it. "No Hurry, No Worry, Just Fun" leads to "No Fight, Be Happy"------bajafun777
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Lee
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3504
Registered: 10-2-2006
Location: High in the Colorado Rockies
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PLEASE!
Edited to prevent my eyes from crossing.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
When your biggest worry is just getting the basic needs for your family your joy is your family. Money is not the "Idol God" of those struggling to
try and feed, cloth, and love their family. This is true not just in Mexico but also the U.S.A.
Grew up on farming camps and lived in more rural small towns than I can count. One thing each family had in common was everyone of them loved
everyone in their families and respected their parents.
The U.S.A. is struggling with everyone in their families loving each other, getting along as well as having simple respect for their parents and
authority figures. This is due to a our government pushing ithis nonesense that it's ok not to take care of yourself or your family because the
government through taxes will.
We let a very precious thing get tossed into muddy waters but that muddy puddle can settle making it become clear and good again.
I go to Baja and other parts of Mexico because I can go into the town squares and see many many families enjoying the parks with everyone in their
families. I miss that so much in the U.S.A. Now, I know we have many many things in the U.S.A. to hold dear and love but we need to fix some things
too.
I love enjoying everything about the beaches in Mexico also. I just enjoy watching people being people without needing so many things like we think
we need in the U.S.A. I will always love the U.S.A. as I know the Mexicans will always love Mexico. Neither side has a "canned love affair" on this
and both of our Countries have some things to work on and fix.
It]s just Mexico with its poverty has a mountain not a little hill to climb up to fix theirs. Hopefully, we can "all" work on those things creating
problems in our Countries. This can be done with our investments, social involvement, being good examples of being people that care along with doing
the right thing without needing someone to be watching us or patting us on the back.
Education of our young in Mexico and U.S.A. is the tool that will enable both Countries to have the possibilites to do these things.
I think Shari is part of that spark and Sirenita is the flame to help reach out to help fix some of these problems. I think some use too strong of
words in addressing their frustration but I do not think they are "haters."
I think they just overexpress that frustration that definately grabs at those wishing and looking for better approaches. However, It is what it is
and shall become or change what everyone that really cares tries to make it. "No Hurry, No Worry, Just Fun" leads to "No Fight, Be
Happy"------bajafun777 |
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capn.sharky
Senior Nomad
Posts: 686
Registered: 9-4-2003
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I like Mexico the way it is. If you want all the fancy stuff, go to Japan. They have toilet seats that are warmed up for you and play music. In
Mexico, you are lucky to have a seat on your toilet. Mexico is Mexico---it has its own charm.
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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