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bajacalifornian
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I always order extra and take Lipitor.
American by birth, Mexican by choice.
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Have you heard of Statin induced muscle pain? | Quote: | Originally posted by bajacalifornian
I always order extra and take Lipitor. |
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Didnt he play for the Oakland Raiders.?
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Hmm, was that supposed to be funny? I didn't get it!! Doesn't sound like a football player's name that I know of!!
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Gypsy Jan
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Hi EnsenadaDr
What is your opinion of the Atkins Diet?
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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EnsenadaDr
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My mother was on that diet and when I was younger I lost a lot of weight on it. I don't have any hatred towards it, I won't say it's the most healthy
diet, but then again, it's better to get off the extra weight. The problem is as you get older, your metabolism slows down and so it's hard to lose
weight on any diet. | Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
What is your opinion of the Atkins Diet? |
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My experience with Lipitor is not good. It does in fact make a big difference in your cholesterol level, but at the expense of tremendous long term
muscle strength.
My father-in-law, a robust midwesterner from rural beginnings with hands as strong as vises, in his early 80s, rides his bike for 16 miles a day every
day, started taking lipitor and for those six months experienced tremendous loss of strength. He stopped taking lipitor about 4 months ago, is
feeling better and stronger and went on a low cholesterol diet. He just took a blood test and with diet alone was able to get a 173 overall
cholesterol reading.
I have been on lipitor for a while and noticed marked decrease in physical strength and an inability to get any strength back from regular weight
lifting. I have since gone off lipitor and am experimenting with diet. Currently, I have been on a dairy free diet for one month and have noticed a
definite decrease in alergy symptoms, especially nasal congestion and I am better able to relax in general. I was only ever able to get 4.5 to 5
hours sleep before the diet, now I regularly get 6.5 to 7 hours of sleep; huge difference. When I get back from Baja in late March, I will be going
on a strict vegan diet to see if there is any difference in my overall health.
Lipitor was never, at least initially, envisioned to be taken for more than 10 years. There were no studies that had posited any expectations as to
what truly long term lipitor use would do to humans. As people are living longer (possibly in part due to statins), now people are taking lipitor for
extended periods.
It is a good idea to limit oil intake, eat salt and sugars moderately, stay away from processed meats like hot dogs and salamis, eat meat and dairy
moderately and add good servings of fruit that you really like to all three meals per day to take up the place and crowd out much of your meat intake.
Generally, most of us would make great health advances by simply eating less.
Easier said than done.
[Edited on 2-18-2013 by MitchMan]
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Eating RED and feeling the Pressure ?
Today a.m. at the Doc's.
104/68.
I did avoid Beef and Pork and ate healthier for lunch.
KFC.
Original Recipe.
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It's the calm before the storm, Mr. Bill. What percentage of your coronary arteries have blockage, and by how much....ah...only Colonel Sanders knows
for sure!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
.................and add good servings of fruit that you really like to all three meals per day to take up the place and crowd out much of your meat
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Be sure to track your blood sugar if you increase your fruit intake that much.
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It's not the meat it's the carbs you have to avoid!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by deportes
It's not the meat it's the carbs you have to avoid! |
I ran into a buddy the other day at Paty's restaurant and noticed he wasn't wearing his usual huge Hawaiian shirt, but instead, a T-Shirt.
I asked him if he'd lost weight and he said yes, around 100 pounds.
After I recovered, I asked how and he said he basically cut out carbs.
I mean....100 pounds.
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Good old Dad,
Chew on a few glyburide tablets then run to the refrigerator for a huge bowl of ice cream!
Ensenada Dr. What is your opinion of taking Isosorbide Dinitrate (a tiny amount perhaps 2,5 mg sublingual) to control spurious episodes of Stage 2
hypertension? Contraindications?
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Make biscuits using a lot of butter...
Fry up a bunch of bacon. Remove from grease and crumble then set aside...
Use grease to make gravy. White flour, but add lots of thick cream when adding whole milk. Cook stirring constantly. Add more pure cream if too thick.
Add enough salt to make gravy salty tasting. Best when eaten with biscuits. Added crumbled bacon...
Pour the thick mixture over a heap of biscuits. It's going to taste good so don't hold back. You can always skip lunch and dinner...
Enjoy, and proceed afterward to go sit in a recliner...
Then dial 911
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Isosorbide is indicated for angina pectoris. It does have the secondary effect of lowering preload and reducing peripheral vascular resistance, but
there are better medications on the market to control blood pressure especially in Diabetes such as ACE inhibitors and ARB's, which protect the
kidneys. But hey, if your blood pressure is 120/80 and you get an occasional 140/90 and this works for you, by all means go for it. Hopefully,
though, the spurious is really spurious, and you are checking your blood pressure daily to make sure of this. Blood pressure medicines are not meant
to be stopped and started at whim, like taking the car out of the garage for a weekly Sunday drive. OH yeah, it's a nitrate, so don't take Viagra with
it, or you might not make it through the date.
[Edited on 2-19-2013 by EnsenadaDr]
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Much agreement. I think Enelapril and Linosipril are two of the wonder hypertension drugs of the world. How about an 135/75 followed three hours later
by a 195/103? Only to decrease forty points eight hours later. Same at rest protocol verified with two different machines which have been test
calibrated at a couple MD exams?
Spurious hypertension spikes are probably one the hottest medical topics we seniors have. Multi-faceted dietetic and medicinal control but still the
spikes come (and go).
Adverse reaction to ED medications shouldn't be the only caution though. Orthostatic Hypotension (feeling lightheaded or faint when standing up) is a
concern that needs to be recognized.
I am Rx'd Metopraol and Verapamil ER, and still even with 20 mg. doses of Enelapril I get spikes. I must "back off " the Rx of the first 2 medications
because of subnormal pulse (sometimes in the forties!), and have been using the Isosorbide Dinirtrate as an adjunct. Very incremental and occasional
dosing. But I refuse to "live" with a BP factor of 200/100. To do so IMHO is stupid and the USA medical community just shrugged when I complained
about it. I Rx's the Isosorbide myself.
I'll gladly exchange my Isosorbide for a little "frisky" any day 
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A very good medication to lower those spikes is Clonidine. A 0.2 mg. dose can bring your 200 systolic down to 140 in an hour or so. Clonidine also
makes you sleep, so at night it's a great drug and for a wonderful afternoon nap, you can't beat it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Enjoy, and proceed afterward to go sit in a recliner...
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Eventually a recliner with wheels. 
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For what it's worth...!
When I do fish tacos here (or any place else) I always use the fresh manteca for the fry oil.
My excuse is that once every few months is not going to kill you.
I have done fish tacos in manteca, then peanut oil and the next week I did them in Mexican Manteca.
The comments were overwhelmingly in favor of the manteca.
Used in moderation...I feel it will do no harm to your body.
Same thing with using a little manteca (about a tablespoon) to quick-fry carne asada over a very hot griddle and cooking the meat rare.
I feel that ANY food that is somewhat harmful to your health is OK as long as it is used very moderately!
Udo
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All this Professional medical advice is making me have a spike in blood pressure.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Much agreement. I think Enelapril and Linosipril are two of the wonder hypertension drugs of the world. How about an 135/75 followed three hours later
by a 195/103? Only to decrease forty points eight hours later. Same at rest protocol verified with two different machines which have been test
calibrated at a couple MD exams?
Spurious hypertension spikes are probably one the hottest medical topics we seniors have. Multi-faceted dietetic and medicinal control but still the
spikes come (and go).
Adverse reaction to ED medications shouldn't be the only caution though. Orthostatic Hypotension (feeling lightheaded or faint when standing up) is a
concern that needs to be recognized.
I am Rx'd Metopraol and Verapamil ER, and still even with 20 mg. doses of Enelapril I get spikes. I must "back off " the Rx of the first 2 medications
because of subnormal pulse (sometimes in the forties!), and have been using the Isosorbide Dinirtrate as an adjunct. Very incremental and occasional
dosing. But I refuse to "live" with a BP factor of 200/100. To do so IMHO is stupid and the USA medical community just shrugged when I complained
about it. I Rx's the Isosorbide myself.
I'll gladly exchange my Isosorbide for a little "frisky" any day
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