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Howard
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Why in the world would you throw logic into this conversation? 
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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David K
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The Arctic polar cap could melt 100% and the sea level remains unchanged. That ice is floating on the water. A cup full of ice water is not going to
flow over the top when the ice melts in it. Now, the ice on Greenland and Antarctica may be a different story... However, last I heard, the Antarctic
ice cap is greater in size than ever. Seems that Nature is in balance?
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bajaguy
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Growing or shrinking??
https://earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/sensing-our-planet/unexpect...
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caj13
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | The Arctic polar cap could melt 100% and the sea level remains unchanged. That ice is floating on the water. A cup full of ice water is not going to
flow over the top when the ice melts in it. Now, the ice on Greenland and Antarctica may be a different story... However, last I heard, the Antarctic
ice cap is greater in size than ever. Seems that Nature is in balance? |
Heres a brand new scientific concept for you David
Volume as compared to surface area. now go do your home work, look that up, understand the concept, then we will allow you to come back and issue
a retraction of your idiotic post
[Edited on 11-17-2019 by caj13]
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caj13
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Gee wiz - if only anyone had any data more current that 2014 - that would help confirm this - right?
turns out there actually is more current data, heres one for you - lots of others if you choose to look
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/29/14414
And it sure makes it look like someone went looking for one specific year to pull out their data- because it supported their beliefs - you know,
kind of like cherry picking data?
40 year long term decline -2014 a bit of an anomoly - but thats why we keep gathering data, and do data analysis - right guys!
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caj13
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| Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali |
How is it that water from the polar ice cap melt, can make its way deep into the Mediterranean Sea, after
squeezing by the Straits of Gibraltar, and into the head of the Adriatic Sea, yet avoid the Sea of Cortez?....
Here all along, I was sure water sought out its own level?
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If the earth was flat as DK and others here apparently believe - you would have a valid point. Unfortunately, since the world is round - it's a
bit more complicated that that!
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/globalsl.html
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DaliDali
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali |
How is it that water from the polar ice cap melt, can make its way deep into the Mediterranean Sea, after
squeezing by the Straits of Gibraltar, and into the head of the Adriatic Sea, yet avoid the Sea of Cortez?....
Here all along, I was sure water sought out its own level?
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If the earth was flat as DK and others here apparently believe - you would have a valid point. Unfortunately, since the world is round - it's a
bit more complicated that that!
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/globalsl.html |
In any given year and any given mean high tide, what is the difference between that mean in Venice, Italy and
La Paz, Mexico?
What should the world do to lower the sea levels?
Does man have the technology to lower sea levels worldwide?
Absent that technology, what should be done in the near term to lower the sea levels?
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali |
How is it that water from the polar ice cap melt, can make its way deep into the Mediterranean Sea, after
squeezing by the Straits of Gibraltar, and into the head of the Adriatic Sea, yet avoid the Sea of Cortez?....
Here all along, I was sure water sought out its own level?
right on
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defrag4
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Palm tree pic > 97% of the worlds scientists
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4x4abc
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now you are testing the group!
Harald Pietschmann
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Pacifico
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Here's an interesting article:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/03/04/climate-sciences-myth...
Just food for thought...
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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4x4abc
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food - but not for thought
David will eat it though
Harald Pietschmann
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chuckie
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LOL!
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LancairDriver
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Here’s A little something for everybody. All of the amateur Nomad climatologists parroting their favorite climate hero’s, as well as the
“deniers” citing their personal observations.
https://www.truthorfiction.com/newspaper-article-from-1922-d...
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bajatrailrider
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Here is a better deal for All Baja blow hards . Move on you cant change Climate or . You have nothing better to do I got it
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4x4abc
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the article shows the first step in science (medicine, climate etc):
you notice an abnormality
you measure it
you repeat it
you have a number of theories why you could have an abnormality
you check your theories against current and past observations
none of your ideas stick
you keep measuring
you read endless papers to see if someone found something that could fit
you keep measuring
you keep comparing
you find a paper that explains the warming
you compare notes and measurements
you think you may have found an answer
you publish a paper for your peers to take you apart
in the meantime you still keep measuring and testing
good news - your peers mostly agree
they applaud you
good
now you start looking for ways to remedy the abnormalities (if they are considered bad)
so, one paper a long time ago only shows that someone found an abnormality
it is not proving anything in any direction - good or bad
eyeballing palm trees would also qualify
as step one
definitely not proof for anything
[Edited on 11-18-2019 by 4x4abc]
Harald Pietschmann
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pacificobob
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your message would carry more weight with standard punctuation.
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ncampion
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Certainly not for your thought, Harald, as it is not aligned with your POV. You Believers are all the same, no opposing opinion has any validity.
Guess we'll just have to wait a couple decades to see.
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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ZipLine
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"When there is speech that is completely forbidden and questions that are not allowed to be asked - you can assume they are true".
- Peter Thiel, at the 2019 Wriston lecture at the Manhattan Institute, Nov 14th, 2019.
Spoken by probably the smartest man in America - though I am sure there are some here who believe they tower above him in intellect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-IaSS0bbGU
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caj13
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heres your author: Guy Sorman (born March 10, 1944, Nérac) is a French-American professor, columnist, author, and public intellectual in economics
and philosophy.
so now hurry off - I believe have scheduled your auto mechanic to fix your smile with dental implants - you don't want to be late for that
appointment!
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