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PROBLEM REACTION SOLUTION
Only those who are capable of curiosity are interested in how the world works and can consider these issues, to come to their own conclusions?
Lots of questions?
Consider who has the motive, means and ability to commit gross negligence for Biopharma profit and control? What do they gain?
In their own words, from the World Economic Forum, "use COVID19 as a building block" to create a "Global Reset", Rockefeller Foundations designed
"Project Lockstep", to use a simulated pandemic for social cohesion and control, evidence of long term Fauci and Birx colluding to commit fraud in
viral diagnosis in HIV/AIDS and Sars2COVID19.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/08/building-blocks-of-th...
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a...
https://www.globalresearch.ca/davos-reset-2021-agenda-world-...
Who are the Rockerfeller family, what their involvement has been in the world in the last 150 years. What are their plans for eugenics and genome
splicing?
https://thewatchtowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Rockef...
Event 201. A coronavirus world pandemic simulation that took place in October 2019. Sponsored by the World Economic Forum, John Hopkins institute
a.k.a Rockefeller foundation, and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
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"I've actually laid hands on people that have COVID and prayed for them. I never got COVID," he said.
Alrighty then...................
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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OK so GnuKid spewed some pretty agregious and dangerous misinformation here. I am going to take it piece by piece and demonstrate how ignorance is
spread to the unwary or unassuming. It will be in 2 parts, because its too long. If you are not interested, I understand - thats fine, just don't
read it.
But Dangerous misinformation needs to be called out, and the purveyers of such garbage need to be held accountable.
Better read it quick though, because Gnuey will go crying and sniveling to the moderators and demand him being held accountable be removed from the
post. I'm fine with that, IF they also remove his proven false and dangerous information from this same thread.
GnuKids Covid conspiracy case
Asking Questions About CoronaVirus Evidence Of Health Risks Is Reasonable
CDC Actual Leading Causes of Death
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
Click on the link, up pops the statistics from 2017 - come on GnuKid, you do know Covid shows up in Jan Feb 2020 – right? You really need to
develop the habit of vetting your conspiracy links . How do you expect to be taken seriously!
RT PCR Test for COVID19 Coronavirus Primer Sequence is Found in All Human DNA (Chromosome 8)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFH6IyRplH0
First - DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT A PRIMER IS? WHAT IT IS USED FOR? IF YOU DON’T KNOW THAT, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF, HOLY COW MAN, THIS IS
IGNORANCE PERSONIFIED! AND CLEARLY YOU AND ALL YOUR CRONIES ON THIS VIDEO LAY OUT THEIR IGNORANCE FOR ALL OF US TO SEE. IT DOES ACTUALLY TAKE A BIT
OF SCIENTIFIC LITERACY TO UNDERSTAND so I guess that’s an excuse? . AND HERES SOME MORE SPECIFICS:
OK so once again – Your Headline? It’s completely false, that’s not what the Doctor say is it gnuey. And BTW, the doctor seems to have a
basic understanding of the DNA molecule, but shows absolutely no evidence of understanding how we isolate DNA, assemble the genome, or query the
data base. If you want to “criticize” the method - PERHAPS you need to develop a basic understanding, instead of revealing yourself as
ignorant as to the method and the techniques!
And going to a local congress layperson to “explain” what doctors know – and understand? Doesn’t that strike you as Odd Gnuey? After all
you have a Dr right there on the video - why not ask him?
Oh wait, I just did a little internet search - Turns out this Dr . is actually a psychiatrist in South Carolina, who promotes “Holistic
Healing”. That’s exactly who I would go to with Covid questions, just like I go to my sprinkler repair man to replace my knee!
Oh BTW Del Bigtree is an AntiVaxer that got booted off of UTube for his spreading of false and dangerous information - so you got that going for you!
Oh yeah one more teeny tiny point. If in fact this “viral” RNA is actually made by the human body, the obvious conclusion is our DNA is coding
to produce a disease to kill us - but it never has before, but all of a sudden, now it is?
RT PCR Tests is inappropriate to detect a viral infection.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-sc...
So first of all the Off Guardian is a bunch of conspiracy theorists /white supremisists who were banned from any responsible social media platform.
The believe 9-11 was a hoax, and the covid virus is the follow up to 9-11 because they were smart enough to figure out 9-11 , so liberals needed
another tool to destroy the world, so they invented covid. Their beliefs on people of color are well documented, disturbing and despicable.
And their complete lack of understanding what RNA is, and where it comes from – well that’s the only thing that allows them to continue spouting
this ridiculous ignorance and bias!
COVID19 has never been purified and isolated, identified as RNA virus much like HIV which is. requirement for identification of virus
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2312-y_reference....
Ok Finally – A trusted Peer reviewed Valid news source. Uh – Gnuey – this is another one of those you didn’t read - right? Or did you just
not understand it? It really says nothing of which your title speaks - but interestingly enough, their concluding statement speaks directly to one
of your favorite mantras about Kock’s postulates. Allow me to quote here gnuey!
“Taken together, our results demonstrated the pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 in mice, together with the previous clinical studies1 , completely
fulfills the Koch's postulates7 and confirmed SARS-CoV-2 was the pathogen of COVID-19. The mouse model with SARS-CoV-2 infection will be valuable for
evaluating antiviral therapeutics and vaccines as well as understanding the disease pathogenesis.”
Part 2 coming up soon!
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gnukid
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Thanks for the encouragement all, I appreciate all the personal messages too.
It takes years to validate illness testing and reporting, which is why, you may see high case/deaths initially reported per region, based on
estimates of suspected cases, only to be adjusted to very low numbers later.
For example, I noted, in 2004 CDC initially reported tens of thousands of influenza deaths as they do each year and years later updated ACTUAL DEATHS
from influenza in USA to 500, which happens every year. See image below showing revised actual deaths from flu only for 2004.
CDC recently reported %94 of 2020 CV19 case fatalities included 2.6 cofactors of pre-existing illnesses causing mortality primarily in seniors above
65. Only %6 had no other cofactors of pre-existing illnesses, though those could be suicide, injury, victim, etc. Average age of death "from" is much
higher than average age of death without CV19?
6% of death certificates listed C-19 as THE cause of death. For the other 94% 2.6 pre-existing co-factors contributed to deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm
I became interested in what is a RNA virus because I had the flu and was scared. I had what seemed like COVID19 and I was actually afraid to go to
sleep so I just began to take readily available on line classes in microbiology, epidemiology, RNA virus and researched the history of H1N1, Swine
Flu, Coronoviruses common influenza, etc. I haven't stopped doing 10 hours plus research, education and validation everyday. What I found when digging
deeper, showed a long pattern of biopharma collusion to promote viral illness and vaccines when the data does not support the conclusion.
Virus is not alive, it is not an organism. Viruses are not contagious
Virus is a cleaner, like soap, to clean the body.
No evidence of transmission of asymptomatic people https://youtu.be/Aa1Ow5_6b8Y
https://davidicke.com/2020/08/18/the-deception-of-virology-v...
I found a pattern of conflicting case/death data, failure to isolate a virus causing illness, conflicting theories, between viral theory, to support
the idea that contagious diseases are passed through aerosolized or tactile transmission of viral bacteria versus exosome cell theory, that idea each
person may reach cellular toxicity periodically based on lifestyle and naturally express toxic cells.
Each person is the product of virus, our bodies contain practically all known "virus", trillions of viruses are found in each person. We are
constantly replicating RNA thousands of times a second to resolve toxicity, expunging toxins. Our bodies are made up of huge quantities of bacteria,
the equivalent of a large portion one leg of your body is bacteria. When the body's cells reaches high toxicity, the individual expresses toxicity and
recuperates.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/science/virosphere-evolut...
https://earthsky.org/human-world/trillions-of-viruses-human-...
It's up to each person to manage their personal health and to make up their own mind, academic studies and CDC reports that raise questions are just
the start. It's up to you to do your own research.
For example, looking back at the 2009 Swine Flu H1N1 pandemic, CDC admitted they stopped actually counting cases after they hit 600, due to confusion,
and simply made up the estimate of one million deaths?
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33239736/ns/health-cold_and_flu/t/...
WHO Suspends H1N1 Testing
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2009/07/who-susp...
Swine Flu Overestimated
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/swine-flu-cases-overestimated/
Obama shut down H1N1 testing
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-obama-admin-halte...
CDC admits the RT PCR tests can not determine an isolation of COVID19, according to the insert on the package, that I shared here repeatedly. The
results produce a positive for any pathogen. Kary Mullis the creator Staes the test can not be used to test for isolated virus.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testin...
Coronavirus: The Truth about PCR Test Kit from the Inventor and Other Experts
https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-p...
There is nothing wrong with reading academic studies even if you don't have a PHD, there is an intro and conclusion, there are often summary studies
of groups of studies.
There is ample evidence there does not exist an external unique pathogen identified as COVID19, that is a contagion causing illness. While there is
evidence there's collusion to create a well planned COVID19 simulation to confuse the case/death counts, conflate all respiratory illness, and
generate false positive from asymtomatic individuals through corruption in BIOpharma.
It's all coming to a head over the next 60-90 days. It all depends on each person to either give up all God given individual rights for freedom, or to
use critical thinking to question the validity of evidence, contingency, and benefit of isolation, sanitizer, distancing, restrictions.
Reach out to family and friends, ask questions, read, talk, take care of each other and ensure that all family and friends have social contact, food
basic medicine and stay positive.
[Edited on 9-20-2020 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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Do your own research about virus as contagion versus your personal health as cause of illness.
Virus vs Human Terrain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYhpJGK3Zw
The Poisoned Needle: Suppressed Facts About Vaccination, 1956, by Eleanor McBean M.D., N.D. (shows the many dangers of vaccinations, manipulated
statistics throughout history, how polio arose, and the nature of virus and disease.)
Béchamp Or Pasteur? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology by E. Douglas Hume, 1923
The Blood and Its Third Element by Antoine Béchamp, 1912
Immunization: The Reality Behind the Myth, by Walene James, 1942 (discusses Béchamp's 'Terrain Theory' of bacteria and viruses.)
The Dream & Lie of Louis Pasteur, R.B. Pearson, 1942 (First published in 1942 under the title 'Pasteur Plagiarist Imposter!-the Germ Theory
Exploded'. Shows that Louis Pasteur plagiarized and distorted the work of professor Antoine Béchamp. The author propounds the viewpoint that bacteria
in the body are a result, not a cause of disease, that vaccinations are harmful or at best, ineffective, and that Pasteur did not realize the
consequences of the vaccines he and his followers created.)
[Edited on 9-20-2020 by gnukid]
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Some recent articles demonstrate the absolute idiocy of CV19 reporting
Note: Some Posters on Baja Nomads use a strategy of muddying the waters to confuse the facts, without adding factual sources nor identifying errors,
instead of engaging in idiotic debate about fallacy refer to academic articles, studies, data, use search to de your research and make up your own
mind. Do not engage with those that promote logical fallacy, these posters are wasting your time to discourage rational thought in a critical time
that you must be informed to manage your personal health.
Why Speaking English May Spread More Coronavirus Than Some Other Languages
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisonescalante/2020/09/08/why-...
Singing may increase transmission of CV19
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200908/Researchers-study...
If this bonkers coronavirus messaging continues, Britain may start to ignore it
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/16/corona...
See Rate of CV Testing per Capita, noting Mexico is at the bottom of the CV tests per capita but at nearly the highest number of cases per capita, how
is that possible?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-...
Accuracy of CV19 testing
https://vimeo.com/417500646
CV19 test can not detect CV19
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant...
Accuracy of CV19 testing
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1808
[Edited on 9-20-2020 by gnukid]
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Gnuey - what? no reply to the last stuff I posted?. remember, it showed you had no ability to understand the links you were posting, and were
being - Uh less that forthcoming about your posts.
This is more of the same, a bunch of undereducated un-qualified individuals posting dangerous information because they So want to possess special
knowledge, but cant be bothered to actually acquire that special knowledge - why bother - right, you guys just make this crap up, and feed it to
each other - yum yum!
Once again you are guilty of posting unvetted unsubstantiated unverified and dangerous information by a bunch of unqualified individuals with no
understanding or expertise of which they speak.
You keep going to the quickie Mart Night Clerk for your medical info gnuey. I assume you are actively seeking to get infected with covid, so you can
prove your own brand of BS and claptrap - right!
[Edited on 9-20-2020 by caj13]
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According to CDC WONDER VAERS System reporting Vaccine Adverse Affects Reporting System of Vaccines, common influenza is the most dangerous vaccine in
practice.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
How to use VAERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOH7cFWS7o4
Furthermore, recent lawsuits requesting proof from DHHS of validation of efficacy of Vaccines resulted in no evidence demonstrated of efficacy, and
lack of formal approval process for vaccines for more than 40 years.
https://www.worldhealth.net/news/rfk-jr-wins-case-against-go...
As a result of FDA failing to meet standards, DHHS recently announced that FDA may not approve vaccines without HHS Secretary approval as general
housekeeping matter.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/health/azar-hhs-fda.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/15/hhs-alex-azar-overr...
From the 1900 hundred until today, Influenza risk of cases and deaths have gone down, not up, yet, there are increasing adverse effect injuries from
common influenza vaccine including risk of Guillain-Barré Syndrome.
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Gnuey,
first your viruses "diagram" where exactly did you get that. It is laughably wrong, almost like someone was completely clueless.
second - let me know when you actually read a single one of the links you post - because so far, your brief intro summaries , have been laughably
wrong, completely inconsistant with the information in the link you post - the links most offten completely contradict your postulates. for god sake
man, get a reading tutor,
and while you are at it, why not look up Dunning Kruger effect, it will be very comforting to you to know we know have a diagnosis that fits your
behavior here on the BN forum!
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CAJ13 don't worry, most of us know Gnu likes to stir the pot with misinformation and conspiracy theories. I only believe that which I can observe.
To date, more than 200,000 Americans have died: 4x as many than in a really bad influenza year, so we KNOW Covid-19 is deadlier than the flu. I
observe maps, data and facts. I know he likes to use Sweden so let's go there. The per capita death rate from Covid 19 in Sweden in 1:1,733.
Surrounding countries? Norway 1:19,904 Finland 1:16,088 Germany 1:8,814 Denmark 1:9,906 Poland 1:16,202 Lithuania 1:32,064 (Source New York
Times) So mitigation works. Wearing masks works. Social distancing works. There really is no more to figure out. The numbers speak for themselves.
Gnu can point out whatever he wants but the bottom line is, if you don't do anything to mitigate the spread, more death happens.
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Below is the Rose Bowl. Fill every seat with a dead person. Imagine that. Get another Rose Bowl. Fill every seat with a dead person. Imagine that.
Two huge football stadiums, a dead body in every seat.
COVID-19 in the US. How many stadiums will it take?
 
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PHEW !
THAT would really Stink !
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Yup. Probably everybody's first thought.
Just trying to give some meaning to the numbers.
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Will there be fake crowd noise? I hope the NFL doesn't get any ideas from this! 
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | Below is the Rose Bowl. Fill every seat with a dead person. Imagine that. Get another Rose Bowl. Fill every seat with a dead person. Imagine that.
Two huge football stadiums, a dead body in every seat.
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if you put a body in every seat, how do you keep them sitting? Zip ties? Twine to tie them upright in seat?
it seems to be an awful lot of work to put bodies in every seat....
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Jeez, everybody is trying to figure out how to do this.
I don't know how. 
Think about it.
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This thread is a human CRISPR experiment gone bad.
Es Todo Bueno
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Gnuey,
second - let me know when you actually read a single one of the links you post - because so far, your brief intro summaries , have been laughably
wrong, completely inconsistant with the information in the link you post - the links most offten completely contradict your postulates. for god sake
man, get a reading tutor,
and while you are at it, why not look up Dunning Kruger effect, it will be very comforting to you to know we know have a diagnosis that fits your
behavior here on the BN forum! |
the practice of delivering a truckload of "supporting " documents that the provider is banking on nobody reading is a common tactic. often used by
lawyers with a weak case. i had a lawyer defending my when the FAA was seeking to suspend my ATP certificate fo 90 days. he arrived at the hearing
with several hand carts with about 200 lbs of documents that nobody read. turned out to be an effective tactic.
oh, spot on with the dunning-kruger reference. quite common among the maga folks, and evangelios.
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