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It's just insane that in the US you can go to the closest drug store to get vaccinated and people don't do it. Effing stupid.
[Edited on 9-22-2021 by SFandH] |
These are the ppl JZ thinks need cajoling, persuasion, more info, begging, to get them onboard. F’ em.
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What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
It's just insane that in the US you can go to the closest drug store to get vaccinated and people don't do it. Effing stupid.
[Edited on 9-22-2021 by SFandH] |
These are the ppl JZ thinks need cajoling, persuasion, more info, begging, to get them onboard. F’ em.
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Insurance companies should refuse reimbursement if they get sick. Make them pay or drive them into bankruptcy. It's soooo easy and free to get
vaccinated.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco |
Out of curiosity- Have either of the 2 of you ever smoked, done drugs of any kind, drank alcohol in excess or had any fast food or other things KNOWN
to be contrary to a healthy lifestyle?
Thats what I thought- Now you 2 can STFU ;-) |
Apples and oranges. None of those behavioral issues directly endanger others by contact like an infectious, highly contagious viral disease that can
hospitalize/kill within a week or two and be easily combatted with one or two simple, free injections available at the local drugstore.
Not getting vaccinated when you easily can be is negligent behavior that endangers others.
[Edited on 9-23-2021 by SFandH]
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156 die after covid vaccine in BCS
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/en-bcs-156-personas-murieron-pese...
Pese a estar vacunados, mueren por Covid-19 10 personas en BCS
https://www.ejecentral.com.mx/10-vacunados-mueren-covid-19-b...
Mueren 10 personas por COVID-19 que habían sido vacunadas en Baja California Sur
https://laverdadnoticias.com/mexico/Mueren-10-personas-por-C...
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco |
Out of curiosity- Have either of the 2 of you ever smoked, done drugs of any kind, drank alcohol in excess or had any fast food or other things KNOWN
to be contrary to a healthy lifestyle?
Thats what I thought- Now you 2 can STFU ;-) |
Apples and oranges. None of those behavioral issues directly endanger others by contact like an infectious, highly contagious viral disease that can
hospitalize/kill within a week or two and be easily combatted with one or two simple, free injections available at the local drugstore.
Not getting vaccinated when you easily can be is negligent behavior that endangers others.
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SF&H- With that logic, I dont understand. I have been vaxed. What does it matter if others dont? Their choice, right?
On the other hand you reference climate change frequently. Isnt your frivilous recreational travel endangering ALL of us with the unnecessary emission
of carbons into the atmosphere when you fly or drive for leisure. Isnt this negligent behavior if measured by YOUR standard?
Why are YOU killing us with your selfish negligence?
Very hypocritical.
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco |
Out of curiosity- Have either of the 2 of you ever smoked, done drugs of any kind, drank alcohol in excess or had any fast food or other things KNOWN
to be contrary to a healthy lifestyle?
Thats what I thought- Now you 2 can STFU ;-) |
Apples and oranges. None of those behavioral issues directly endanger others by contact like an infectious, highly contagious viral disease that can
hospitalize/kill within a week or two and be easily combatted with one or two simple, free injections available at the local drugstore.
Not getting vaccinated when you easily can be is negligent behavior that endangers others.
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SF&H- With that logic, I dont understand. I have been vaxed. What does it matter if others dont? Their choice, right?
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It matters because unvaccinated people can easily get sick and infect other unvaccinated people. The more sick people there are the more the
likelihood of a more virulent mutation that evades current vaccines, making everyone, vaccinated or not, sick and putting us back to square one.
Not to mention the misery, the cost, and economic disruption caused by an infectious viral disease spreading throughout the world.
Your freedom of choice ends when it endangers others.
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Naturally recuperated carry the highest form of immunity and are not contagious, actually, those recuperated share immunity intelligence with others,
while VACCINATED ARE CONTAGIOUS, at a viral load rate much higher than unvaccinated, they continue to shed, while continuously hyper producing the
pathogen spike protein that causes illness, forever, requiring continuous shots for reasons that are not clear. To date there is not transparency
about what is in the vaccines and what they do and what is the actual result because there are not adequate studies.
Today, the Health spokesperson for BCS reports that there are deaths following vaccination for each of the products, now totaling at least 156 deaths
of vaccinated following 1 or 2 doses, while the jabs do not protect from infection nor transmission nor reduce contagiousness, while they do cause
antibody dependent enhancement which compromises immune system.
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/en-bcs-156-personas-murieron-pese...
If you are paying attention we are at a point, that those vaccinated must consider what is happening to their bodies and what risk it poses to
themselves and the general population.
A recent survey of the highest vaccinated population found, 22% of those vaccinated after two doses, who were hospitalized, died.
"El 22% de los hospitalizados, pese a las dos dosis, muere"
https://as.com/diarioas/2021/07/20/actualidad/1626760804_162...
Un estudio concluye que "una minoría" de personas vacunadas puede enfermar gravemente y fallecer por la COVID-19, aunque suelen tener enfermedades
previas.
[Edited on 9-23-2021 by gnukid]
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
To date there is not transparency about what is in the vaccines and what they do and what is the actual result because there are not adequate studies.
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Well, you seem to know everything, how could that be?
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
And little hope for it to realize its (in my opinion) initial useful purpose. At 835 (mostly-off-topic) posts, it's too far down that road to turn
back now.
Wonder if there's a way to just copy all your helpful tables to a new thread and leave this one to run its current off-the-rail course towards
oblivion...? |
Looks like a whole series of off-topic posts from this morning have been removed.
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Ok back to the topic. And the topic of vaccine mandates has been discussed more than a dozen times ITT by the thread starter himself. So, I don't
want to hear any belly aching from him, ok?
If you've read my posts, you've seen me tell you many times this was coming from minorities. Well now it's here, and it's going put a lot of you in a
very confused state, I think. And don't attack me. I'm just posting the news.
New York BLM Leader Promises National ‘Uprising’ Over ‘Racist’ Vaccine Mandates
“We’re putting this city on notice that your mandate will not be another racist social distance practice. Black people are not going to stand by,
or you will see another uprising. And that is not a threat. That is a promise,” she continued. “The vaccination passport is not a free passport to
racism.”
“Seventy-two percent of black people in this city from ages 18 to 44 are unvaccinated,” Newsome said during the protest at Carmine’s, according
to The Washington Examiner. “So what is going to stop the Gestapo, I mean the NYPD, from rounding up black people, from snatching them off the
train, off the bus?”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-york-blm-leader-promises-...
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Today, the Health spokesperson for BCS reports that there are deaths following vaccination for each of the products, now totaling at least 156 deaths
of vaccinated following 1 or 2 doses, while the jabs do not protect from infection nor transmission nor reduce contagiousness, while they do cause
antibody dependent enhancement which compromises immune system.
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/en-bcs-156-personas-murieron-pese...
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Here's the problem, Paul. You believe most or everything that comes out of Baja. I don't.
You paraphrase what you read as if it's the truth. It's simply not the truth.
You believe in conspiracy theories and make up stuff as you go along.
People have enough information. You spread misinformation. Unconscionable.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
And it's important to know that Mexicans that are not vaccinated cannot just go and get vaccinated. There are not enough vaccines to go around. Under
50% are fully vaccinated. Baja California has vaccines only for second doses of certain types of vaccines. In Tijuana it's Pfizer and Sinovac and
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Under 40% of total population of Mexico are fully vaccinated. Probably under 50% of eligible population. With variants, until they get to 80-90%, it
will keep spilling across the border. Tourists and dual citizens are crossing South and coming back uncontrolled, not to mention international
flights. By the time they vaccinate 80%, the first 10-20% will have lost whatever immunity they had. They need more vaccine and fast.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
Under 40% of total population of Mexico are fully vaccinated. Probably under 50% of eligible population. With variants, until they get to 80-90%, it
will keep spilling across the border. Tourists and dual citizens are crossing South and coming back uncontrolled, not to mention international
flights. By the time they vaccinate 80%, the first 10-20% will have lost whatever immunity they had. They need more vaccine and fast.
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Agree 100% with your last sentence.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Today, the Health spokesperson for BCS reports that there are deaths following vaccination for each of the products, now totaling at least 156 deaths
of vaccinated following 1 or 2 doses, while the jabs do not protect from infection nor transmission nor reduce contagiousness, while they do cause
antibody dependent enhancement which compromises immune system.
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/en-bcs-156-personas-murieron-pese...
[Edited on 9-23-2021 by gnukid] |
Here's the problem, Paul. You believe most or everything that comes out of Baja. I don't.
You paraphrase what you read as if it's the truth. It's simply not the truth.
You believe in conspiracy theories and make up stuff as you go along.
People have enough information. You spread misinformation. Unconscionable.
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The article says 156 have died from covid in spite of having one or two shots. It doesn’t say how many had one.
But in the body of the article, it lists deaths by vaccines and they only add up to 56. There is no link to the press conference presentation that
this article references,
No one said this in the article,
| Quote: | | while the jabs do not protect from infection nor transmission nor reduce contagiousness, while they do cause antibody dependent enhancement which
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There is no evidence that ADE is an issue with covid vaccines
https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/fake-ade
Nor is there any evidence that people who recover from covid develop ADE.
Remember both vaccine and recovery develop anti bodies.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Purdyd | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Today, the Health spokesperson for BCS reports that there are deaths following vaccination for each of the products, now totaling at least 156 deaths
of vaccinated following 1 or 2 doses, while the jabs do not protect from infection nor transmission nor reduce contagiousness, while they do cause
antibody dependent enhancement which compromises immune system.
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/en-bcs-156-personas-murieron-pese...
[Edited on 9-23-2021 by gnukid] |
Here's the problem, Paul. You believe most or everything that comes out of Baja. I don't.
You paraphrase what you read as if it's the truth. It's simply not the truth.
You believe in conspiracy theories and make up stuff as you go along.
People have enough information. You spread misinformation. Unconscionable.
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The article says 156 have died from covid in spite of having one or two shots. It doesn’t say how many had one.
But in the body of the article, it lists deaths by vaccines and they only add up to 56. There is no link to the press conference presentation that
this article references,
No one said this in the article,
| Quote: | | while the jabs do not protect from infection nor transmission nor reduce contagiousness, while they do cause antibody dependent enhancement which
compromises immune system. |
There is no evidence that ADE is an issue with covid vaccines
https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/fake-ade
Nor is there any evidence that people who recover from covid develop ADE.
Remember both vaccine and recovery develop anti bodies.
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People die all the time. A death following vaccination does not mean the vaccination caused the death. Vaccinate a million people, and of course you
will see a few deaths. Death happens every day due to many causes.
Has anyone shown a link of vaccination and death? No significant link.
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You think gnukid doesn't know this?
In rare cases where there appears to be a link, there are often "other medical conditions" mentioned in such deaths.
OTH, heart inflammation in unvaccinated people infected with Covid is 4 times more common than same inflammation caused by vaccine.
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A turn for the worse in BC: "the State could go back from yellow to orange "
https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/En-Baja-Californ...
"IN ONE DAY, ACTIVE COVID-19 CASES INCREASE 17%
Active coronavirus patients in Baja California, as they went from 889 to 1036, of which 469 are from Mexicali, 293 from Tijuana, 176 from Ensenada, 27
from Rosarito, 15 from San Felipe, 21 from San Quintín and 35 from Tecate .
Alonso Pérez Rico warned that if cases increase in Tijuana, the State could go back from yellow to orange at the epidemiological traffic light of
Covid-19.
Regarding active patients, he commented that 863 are recovering at home, 98 in hospitals and 75 are intubated.
Of these, 66 are not vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 and seven are, but they suffer from chronic degenerative diseases."
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Yes, there are spikes on the BC daily cases curve. North of the border in CA too - 900 cases one day and 30,000 another. Given the heavily
trafficked border there must be a connection, both ways. New cases per capita in BC and BCS don't differ much now that BCS came down off the peak.
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Latest survey, by Kaiser. Hispanic vaccination rates and black vaccination rates have pretty much tied whites. The only group showing low
vaccination rates are............Republicans.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid...
If you select different tabs, you'll also find 23% of Republicans never intend to get vaccinated. Complete and absolute stupidity.
John
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Please address this. I'll hang up and listen.
https://www.blackenterprise.com/leader-of-black-lives-matter...
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