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Hi Skipjack: If you hit the tab for Vancouver island (my health region) you will see the recent data for the area I am talking about.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989...
I am reporting on what we see in our health region, one that until a couple months ago was being held up as an example of how great we were doing.
Sadly, no longer as positive as it was under a lower vaccination rate or lower mandates on mask wearing or access in general to non vaccinated
persons. I admit it's as surprising to me as anyone else.
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In terms of cases per capita Vancouver Island used to be much better than the mainland Vancouver. It is still a little better. Map in the link shows
both. The darker - the more cases per 100,000. Vancouver and Vancouver Island.
Consider that other than Victoria city, there is a low population density on the island, you are rarely in close proximity to people so with the same
cases per capita your chances on the island are better.
Aboriginals and hillbillies to the North of the greater Vancouver are a different story. It's all dark on the map and in the heads too. In the early
days of vaccination nurses complained that aboriginals were refusing to be vaccinated, they didn't believe in the virus and vaccine, thinking this was
another ploy of the paleface enemies. No kidding. With their lifestyle - gatherings, pow-wow, big families - it has spread like a forest fire. Older
guys eventually came to their senses but young braves are hard to convince.
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Hi Alm: Agreed on almost all of that, altho a bit bluntly expressed. As a hospital worker in a highly indigenous area, I observed the locals had a far
higher community contact culture, an elder in hospital would have 5-6 visitors pretty much all day long, even tho the "rules" had very short visiting
hours and maximum of 2 people visiting at a time. Would be extremely hard to get people raised in that kind of culture to just stop visiting an elder
in a health care setting, unlike our general willingness to leave them alone when ill and leave it to the government to provide social and physical
care.
I often wondered what in the long run was healthier, isolation or as much social contact as possible in those waning weeks and months of a life.
Depends i guess on how you measure a healthy life.
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In anticipation of a new report on BC/BCS... Looking at daily cases - it doesn't look good: https://datos.covid-19.conacyt.mx/.
Move the left slider under the graph all the way to the left to see the full picture.
BC cases have been climbing throughout October. It's not dropping yet. Last 2 weeks - up to Nov 15 - are usually understated, this is grey area, it's
often adjusted upwards later on. Takes time to develop symptoms, process the tests and add results to databases.
BCS cases have been dropping throughout October but now are actually rising. Last 2 weeks are usually understated - and there is a notable rise
already.
Currently cases per capita in BC and BCS are about the same.
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Omicron… 
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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While nitwits are worried about mRNA developed vaccines, the virus is doing it's own genetic adaptations, without silly political debate and mindless
disinformation.
John
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While nitwits are worried about mRNA developed vaccines, the virus is doing it's own genetic adaptations, without silly political debate and mindless
disinformation.
John |
True that! Hopefully it gets less deadly as it gets more contagious. That seems to be the case, but who knows?
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During my times in La Paz, the application of temperature checks, mask wearing, requirements to sterilize hands when entering buildings was heavily
regulated, yet open flowing sewage on the streets after the flooding seemed totally ignored as people drove and walked through it regularly. Seemed a
bit oddly placed priorities to me. I was very surprised the rates of virus positives were as low as they were reported to be, especially considering
the still very low vaccination rates.
I don't think the various variants will make a whole lot of difference in this scenario.
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nitwits everywhere
Harald Pietschmann
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Anyone actually see any real science backed evidence this latest virus version is any more virulent than the multitude of previous versions? I've lost
count of the number of new strains they have now pushed at us. It seems entirely likely the longer they can keep this virus afloat the more strains we
can exponentially expect to see.
Or is this just the latest attempt to drive more acceptance of coming imposed restrictions and distract us from solvable issues that are being
mishandled?
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Goat,
Looks like the end isn’t nigh! Come out from under your bed!
“The South African doctor who first alerted authorities to the presence of the COVID-19 omicron variant reported that it presents "unusual but mild"
symptoms.
Dr. Angelique Coetzee, a board member of the South African Medical Association, first noticed otherwise healthy patients demonstrating unusual
symptoms on Nov. 18.
"Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before," Coetzee told The Telegraph. "It presents mild disease with symptoms
being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well," Coetzee explained. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the
loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home."
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
Looks like the end isn’t nigh! Come out from under your bed!
“The South African doctor who first alerted authorities to the presence of the COVID-19 omicron variant reported that it presents "unusual but mild"
symptoms.
Dr. Angelique Coetzee, a board member of the South African Medical Association, first noticed otherwise healthy patients demonstrating unusual
symptoms on Nov. 18.
"Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before," Coetzee told The Telegraph. "It presents mild disease with symptoms
being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well," Coetzee explained. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the
loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home."
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Which leads us to the question: Why are we elevating government mandated restrictions for a new variant that shows milder symptoms than a multitude of
previous variants? I have yet to see any reports of worsening conditions to back the increasing reactions.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
Looks like the end isn’t nigh! Come out from under your bed!
“The South African doctor who first alerted authorities to the presence of the COVID-19 omicron variant reported that it presents "unusual but mild"
symptoms.
Dr. Angelique Coetzee, a board member of the South African Medical Association, first noticed otherwise healthy patients demonstrating unusual
symptoms on Nov. 18.
"Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before," Coetzee told The Telegraph. "It presents mild disease with symptoms
being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well," Coetzee explained. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the
loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home."
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Which leads us to the question: Why are we elevating government mandated restrictions for a new variant that shows milder symptoms than a multitude of
previous variants? I have yet to see any reports of worsening conditions to back the increasing reactions. |
South Africa is angry that travel restriction were imposed on them, so they started issuing spin to fight bad news. I guess you were gullible to their
attempted spin.
Given that you anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers pick and choose your news from right wing media, I am sure you will find more news articles justifying
your wish that omicron be a benign nothing burger.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Kimmel created a great book for anti-vaxxers...go to minute 6:40 or just watch the whole thing 
https://youtu.be/uzvAkYYjdq4
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Goat,
Looks like the end isn’t nigh! Come out from under your bed!
“The South African doctor who first alerted authorities to the presence of the COVID-19 omicron variant reported that it presents "unusual but mild"
symptoms.
Dr. Angelique Coetzee, a board member of the South African Medical Association, first noticed otherwise healthy patients demonstrating unusual
symptoms on Nov. 18.
"Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before," Coetzee told The Telegraph. "It presents mild disease with symptoms
being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well," Coetzee explained. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the
loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home."
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Which leads us to the question: Why are we elevating government mandated restrictions for a new variant that shows milder symptoms than a multitude of
previous variants? I have yet to see any reports of worsening conditions to back the increasing reactions. |
The news is mixed on whether it's mild or virulent. Scientist advise patience until more data becomes available.
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Thanks Lencho:
I was unaware the politicians were pushing some extraordinary use of tinfoil. The real profits this past year were in Moderna, the very recent gains
since Omicron warnings were exceptionally high:
Moderna stock was rising sharply Monday after the vaccine maker said a reformulated vaccine to tackle the Omicron covid variant could be ready in
early 2022.
Moderna (ticker: MRNA) rose 10% to $362.50. The stock gained 20.6% on Friday after Moderna said it was working to rapidly advance an Omicron-specific
booster candidate, targeting 60 to 90 days for clinical testing to begin.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/moderna-stock-price-covid-v...
In fact, MRNA has gone from 29.95 per share Mar 6 2020 to over 362.50 today. A whole lot of wealth produced for insiders who benefitted from advance
knowledge.
[Edited on 11-29-2021 by JDCanuck]
[Edited on 11-29-2021 by JDCanuck]
[Edited on 12-3-2021 by BajaNomad]
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interesting - the same guys that told us capitalism is so much better than any alternative are now complaining that some are making money in this
capitalistic model. One could mistake you for a leftie.
Harald Pietschmann
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | interesting - the same guys that told us capitalism is so much better than any alternative are now complaining that some are making money in this
capitalistic model. One could mistake you for a leftie. |
Who was complaining? What am I missing?
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JDCanuck
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No complaints here: I fully believe in investing in supplying anything that benefits mankind as a whole: Primarily shelter, food and energy but also
health care and education. It's a great way to put your excess savings to work don't you think?
Manipulation of markets by people in power tho, which leads to sudden employment loss for the employed classes and personal gain does concern me tho,
is that a socialistic position? Most people would agree and this is why we have insider trading curbs and international trade agreements between
friendly nations. It makes good sense if you want a capitalist system to succeed long term.
But this is once again way off topic. We were talking about Covid and new virus strains.
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JDCanuck
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And it begins again: Any travellers flying into Canada for Christmas (other than from US) met with even more restrictions and additional quarantining.
Omicron cases cited as the reason. Africans barred altogether.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/ottawa-to-require-testing-...
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