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[*] posted on 12-17-2021 at 07:44 AM


Career pilot here. Transport category aircraft are filthy.
I know the the pressurization systems well.
Airflow in the cabin is a cost factor. More airflow = more fuel costs.
Many systems have an "econ" setting used as standard procedure to save fuel. [Cabin altitude higher/outflow valves cranked down. Limiting CFM through the pressurized areas]
Filters that remove virus? Never encountered a system that did that.
I retired 12 years ago, perhaps the airlines voluntary decided to add/maintain a costly system since then. Anyone know for sure?


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[*] posted on 12-17-2021 at 08:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by Lee  


You. and JZ, are entitled to post cluelesss misinformation. Pilots? More like Pudknockers.





Misinformation? Now comments from two of the most influential airline CEOs in the world at a Senate hearing are misinformation??

Smh at how this term has been created by the MSM to baffle so many.


[Edited on 12-17-2021 by JZ]


Countless CEOs have been revealed to be liars. These airline guys are just a few more liars in a long history of fibbing CEOs.





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[*] posted on 12-17-2021 at 08:17 AM


Yeah, they are gonna lie to congress while testifying under oath.

Or, more likely they have been provided a stack of scientific evidences thicker than a Bible.

The MSM lies to you every single day. Some of them are very big lies.




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[*] posted on 12-17-2021 at 08:26 AM


Thicker than a bible? Jeepers, that's a hard hitting analogy. Clearly any documents
Approaching that thickness must be factual.
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[*] posted on 12-17-2021 at 12:04 PM


More news on the severity of Omicron out of South Africa today:
https://nypost.com/2021/12/17/south-african-hospitalization-...




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[*] posted on 12-18-2021 at 05:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Now comments from two of the most influential airline CEOs in the world


[Edited on 12-17-2021 by JZ]


??? The US isn't the center of the world. And that Southwest CEO just tested positive for Covid, so he obviously hasn't been conducting himself very intelligently.

Gonna get your moderator buddy to remove this post, like all my other posts that disappeared?





[Edited on 12-19-2021 by surabi]
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[*] posted on 12-18-2021 at 05:46 PM
Covid on ice?


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The subject was ice downhill. Letting air out of tires does not do much good when on sheet of ice going down hill.
Maybe a ripper attachment for trailer hitch :light:



While I agree that this thread has gone downhill a few times, I don't recall ice, or tire pressure being mentioned as a cause of, or treatment for Covid 19!




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[*] posted on 12-18-2021 at 11:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


That Southwest CEO just tested positive for Covid, so he obviously hasn't been conducting himself very intelligently.

Gonna get your moderator buddy to remove this post, like all my other posts that disappeared?



So based on your words, anyone who has gotten Covid is not "very intelligent."

That's rich. And tremendously insulting to the 5 million ppl who have died.



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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 07:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


That Southwest CEO just tested positive for Covid, so he obviously hasn't been conducting himself very intelligently.

Gonna get your moderator buddy to remove this post, like all my other posts that disappeared?



So based on your words, anyone who has gotten Covid is not "very intelligent."

That's rich. And tremendously insulting to the 5 million ppl who have died.



and 1 in every 5 deaths was American. It is just shocking that we as the most affluent nation on earth couldn't do better.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 09:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


That Southwest CEO just tested positive for Covid, so he obviously hasn't been conducting himself very intelligently.

Gonna get your moderator buddy to remove this post, like all my other posts that disappeared?



So based on your words, anyone who has gotten Covid is not "very intelligent."

That's rich. And tremendously insulting to the 5 million ppl who have died.



and 1 in every 5 deaths was American. It is just shocking that we as the most affluent nation on earth couldn't do better.


But, we're #1!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! Freedumb!!!

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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 10:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


That Southwest CEO just tested positive for Covid, so he obviously hasn't been conducting himself very intelligently.

Gonna get your moderator buddy to remove this post, like all my other posts that disappeared?



So based on your words, anyone who has gotten Covid is not "very intelligent."

That's rich. And tremendously insulting to the 5 million ppl who have died.



and 1 in every 5 deaths was American. It is just shocking that we as the most affluent nation on earth couldn't do better.


But, we're #1!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! Freedumb!!!

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After 2 years of living with this maybe it's time to look at the countries and states that are presently managing far better and try to understand what they are doing right. Sweden has had an amazingly low case fatality rate and continually shrinking for 6 months now, while the rest of Europe despite further lockdowns is surging in fatalities again. Some of the US states also have swung from very high case fatalities to much lower case fatalities, despite the latest surges in cases. What is it they are doing that others aren't? I think the answer lies in early therapeutic treatment among both fully vaccinated and non-vaccinated people that contract the virus.




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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 11:43 AM


In BC and BCS, the one thing I would definitely have in advance of you or your family contracting Covid is either Medical grade Oxygen or an Oxygen Concentrator. 3 of our family members with significant underlying risk factors have recovered from Covid and had an Oxygen Concentrator on hand to support them as they recovered. They tell me Medical Oxygen was very hard to come by, let alone any chemical treatments or hospital support.
Secondly, if the treatment pills presently awaiting approval from Pfizer become available, I would definitely grab some of them when they are available. Breakthroughs among fully vaccinated people are becoming more and more common.

Here is the quote from Pfizer's pill study just released on the 14th:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Pfizer said Tuesday that its experimental pill to treat COVID-19 appears effective against the omicron variant.

The company also said full results of its 2,250-person study confirmed the pill's promising early results against the virus: The drug reduced combined hospitalizations and deaths by about 89% among high-risk adults when taken shortly after initial COVID-19 symptoms."




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 01:03 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


That Southwest CEO just tested positive for Covid, so he obviously hasn't been conducting himself very intelligently.




So based on your words, anyone who has gotten Covid is not "very intelligent."

That's rich. And tremendously insulting to the 5 million ppl who have died.



[Edited on 12-19-2021 by JZ]


No, you drew faulty conclusions.

He has been defending not requiring masks. It's not the least bit insulting to the over 5 million who have died to call out the anti-maskers who then get Covid.

And a lot of those 5 million died needlessly because they refused to wear masks or get vaccinated. I have little sympathy for those.

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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 02:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  


No, you drew faulty conclusions.

He has been defending not requiring masks. It's not the least bit insulting to the over 5 million who have died to call out the anti-maskers who then get Covid.

And a lot of those 5 million died needlessly because they refused to wear masks or get vaccinated. I have little sympathy for those.


Nice spin. You sure as heck did throw major shade on a lot of ppl who have died. That's very tolerant of you.

BTW, he's not anti-mask, he just says the science says they aren't needed on planes.





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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 03:13 PM


It's been over a year since the last election produced a newly responsible gov't, and a whole lot has changed in the meantime. The most concerning change is indicated at the Cornell University outbreak. Past solutions are no longer working out very well, time to look for new solutions .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cornell-university-...

"Ninety-seven percent of the campus is fully vaccinated, a large portion of them have booster shots and there's mandatory masking, and we still have this uptick,"




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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 03:45 PM


"Nature always finds a way."

Jeff Goldblum's character, in Jurassic Park, as I recall.

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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 03:48 PM


In today’s news:

“Full vaccination against COVID-19 and a breakthrough infection builds 'super immunity,' study finds”

I think it is feasible we will see a future covid variant that will have high spread rate and high mortality rate; most of the vaccinated will survive, and majority of un-vaccinated will die.

Diseases evolve, the strongest survive. I suspect it is foolish to be un-vaccinated in a world where disease evolves with the seasons…

Some people like to ignore covid, and shrug and say “what, me worry?” Reminds me of people that try meth as a recreational drug, thinking “oh, I won’t get addicted.” Famous last words.


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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 04:20 PM


I'm reminded of another movie, "The Thing" remake with Kurt Russell.

This virus may not stop until every human is infected.

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[*] posted on 12-19-2021 at 04:30 PM


John : I find myself mainly in agreement with those posts. This latest variant has the appearance of one that will rapidly spread globally, and have far milder outcomes and fewer fatalities. It may actually be our best shot at achieving herd immunity at lowered fatality rates and we will not have been the cause other than spreading out the number of variations until a milder more rapidly transmitting one was finally produced.



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