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mtgoat666
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https://youtu.be/u9KxE4Kv9A8
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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AKgringo
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Quoting Gretta; "Blah blah blah blah".
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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RFClark
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Goat,
Actually none of the models work the same way the climate works. That’s “0”! The primary reason is that today as was the case 50 years ago,
there isn’t a sufficient understanding as to how the climate actually works past it’s been getting warmer for the last 14K+ years!
It’s obvious that multiple billions of humans burning stuff is adding to the warming that had melted a majority of the ice from the peak of the last
ice age. The sea level rose over 300’ + prior to humans adding to the rise and even the most pessimistic projections suggest 40’ - 60’ more rise
in the future.
Unless all of humanity pitches in, nothing we can do will be, by it self, enough and it won’t “set an example” for the Indians and Chinese
either as they don’t give a damn what we do or what Greta says!
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surabi
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Ridiculous excuse for not doing one's part- that someone else isn't doing their's, so why bother.
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S,
That depends on how you define “our part”! In case you missed it, there’s a major war in Europe again. That war has resulted in the deaths of a
large (200K or more) number of people by gun and other violence in just over a year. The same European war has resulted in a rather large amount of
pollution.
Rather than continuing to move the deckchairs around on the Titanic perhaps we should direct our efforts to try and prevent the European War from
becoming a World war. That said the resulting World War would end the threat from global warming and overpopulation at the same time, thus meeting
your call for action!
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lewmt
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Meanwhile, this
https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/399737...
Could lead to some promising advancements in clean energy
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RFClark
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S,
Not “Gas Stoves”, gas appliances! Heated water with electricity lately? Then there the small gas engine appliances like generators, pumps and
cement mixers that are banned or will be banned (not phased out!) very soon! Mixed a few yards of concrete by hand lately? Honda stopped selling new
small gas engine appliances in California last year.
Actually you were forced to wear a mask. The police in Melbourne can be viewed clubbing anti-mask protesters in a number of places on the internet. In
Los Angeles we were forced to wear masks, some businesses were closed and travel was restricted as well.
BCS banned beer and liquor sales and then regulated sales hours. (GFE)
And finally, you still haven’t listed your creds past just talking about the environment!
[Edited on 5-10-2023 by RFClark]
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | S,
Actually you were forced to wear a mask. The police in Melbourne can be viewed clubbing anti-mask protesters in a number of places on the internet. In
Los Angeles we were forced to wear masks, some businesses were closed and travel was restricted as well.
BCS banned beer and liquor sales and then regulated sales hours. (GFE)
[Edited on 5-10-2023 by RFClark] |
No, you weren't "forced" to wear a mask, you were restricted from public venues if you weren't wearing one. Those are two different things.
And of course there were restrictions- intelligent people who care about others besides themselves were trying to stop the rampant spread of a virus
that has killed almost 7 million people in 3 years. If there had been no restrictions or masking and distance regulations, millions more people would
have died.
Do you jump up and down screaming about having to wear a seat belt in your car or on a plane? How would you feel about people who are covered in
monkeypox lesions being allowed to rub shoulders with others in public places? People would freak out about that, yet because you couldn't "see" the
Covid virus, people denied its existence or danger.
[Edited on 5-11-2023 by surabi]
[Edited on 5-11-2023 by surabi]
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Not really, not since October. I have to drive to an Internet connection (slow geostationary satellite) when at my place in BCS and that's fine with
me. Yes, I know about Starlink.
I just read about the 2035 CA zero emissions mandate. Sounds good to me.
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-moves-accelerate-100-...
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In Loreto, police were harassing tourists who weren't masked. Didn't happen in LA.
Snowflakes whining: I was forced to wear a mask. I didn't feel safe. Bet you lose sleep over this stuff.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | In Loreto, police were harassing tourists who weren't masked. Didn't happen in LA.
Snowflakes whining: I was forced to wear a mask. I didn't feel safe. Bet you lose sleep over this stuff. |
Wearing a mask is so easy even a troglodyte could do it. Are snowflake conservatives still whining about having to wear a little mask for a year?
Crybabies! Waaaa!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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S,
Hindsight is 20/20. I worked in Critical Care Medicine back then. Initially no-one understood what all the vectors were! As a result people died
from receiving blood, blood fractions, blood derived products and just about any medical product or device that had a human component. That included
contaminated equipment with multiple users. Initially almost everyone with symptoms died period! It was very scary!
The total number of deaths from AIDS is more than 40 million and in 2022 deaths were still running 800K per year.
The CDC early on tried to infect volunteers with COVID and only 50% of the subjects ever showed symptoms!
The 2 epidemics are not in the same league. Yet the different approaches are amazing.
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RFClark
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More interesting news.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/01052023/eleven-chemical-...
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | S,
Hindsight is 20/20. I worked in Critical Care Medicine back then. Initially no-one understood what all the vectors were! As a result people died
from receiving blood, blood fractions, blood derived products and just about any medical product or device that had a human component. That included
contaminated equipment with multiple users. Initially almost everyone with symptoms died period! It was very scary!
The total number of deaths from AIDS is more than 40 million and in 2022 deaths were still running 800K per year.
The 2 epidemics are not in the same league. Yet the different approaches are amazing.
[Edited on 5-11-2023 by RFClark] |
The slow response and medical investigation into AIDS was rooted in bigotry against gays. They were afraid to come forward to talk about what was
happening in their communities and demand action because of being stigmatized even more than they already were. You can't start a discussion about the
difference in approaches while ignoring that elephant in the room.
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mtgoat666
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South Pasadena Popo Going All Electric!
58 years after Dylan went electric
South Pasadena’s police car fleet is expected to go fully electric by the start of next year.
The city is leasing 20 Teslas through Enterprise for at least five years for police patrol duties, administration and detective work. Some vehicles
are already in use, Deputy City Manager Domenica Megerdichian said, while others used for patrol must still be properly outfitted.
Nearly $2 million in city funds was allotted to the leasing agreement, which includes 10 Tesla Model Y vehicles and 10 Tesla Model 3 vehicles,
according to City Council agenda reports. The city also received $500,000 in funding from a committee that works to reduce vehicle pollution in the
South Coast region.
More than 30 charging ports, including some for public use, will be installed at South Pasadena City Hall parking lots in partnership with Southern
California Edison.
“We have been investigating this transition for five to six years and determined that these electric vehicles will be the best operationally for
us,” South Pasadena Police Chief Brian Solinsky said in a statement. “They are the safest and fastest vehicles and will save the city money in
lower maintenance and fueling costs.”
Woke!
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Sounds like its a great move for THEM
Small geographic area, predominantly short trips
Not an issue Not against it
You chose your position in life today by what YOU did yesterday
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
I'd rather err on the safe side. Besides, switching to renewable energy sources is a smart thing to do for many reasons. |
Petroleum fuels are dirty, cause air pollution. Always good to reduce or eliminate petroleum use where possible.
Woke!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Petroleum fuels are dirty, cause air pollution. Always good to reduce or eliminate petroleum use where possible. |
I've found for Baja it just isn't practical yet to replace those gas 4by4's with electrics, but the F-150 Lightning looks like a good hope for the
future if the charging stations arrive in mass or you have enough excess solar to charge at home for free. California has huge subsidies for those
who switched either to BEV or hybrids and in addition a large number of charging stations we passed on the way down. Has anyone got positive
experiences they can share with us and the reasons they find them superior, or the limitations they ran into?
The Prius V hybrid we had in the family for years has been great in cities and paved roads, but road clearance on back roads and fuel use savings
dropped significantly as well. Propane and natural gas conversions that drastically reduced pollution we were led to in the past became somewhat
unwieldy when all the refill stations dried up, altho while they were more common they saved a ton of pollution. Then the costs to purchase the fuels
went way up and they became impractical for the fleets that willingly converted.
Fuel Cells were touted as the answer next, and finally the Hydrogen Hiway. It's no wonder the populace has severe doubts about this latest push.
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Elon Musk continues to drive price drops in EV's, especially the cheapest model, while the other manufacturers are driving prices up. The F-150
Lightning Pro was available to Californians for under 30,000 when it was first sold after rebates, so there must be a few people out there that bought
at those prices. Unfortunately, it is now far more expensive as high inflation, demand and availability drove price increases out of the reach of the
majority.
Here is how Norway overcame that reluctance to the point that today, 80% of newly licensed vehicles are EV's, well ahead of their initial targets.
https://elbil.no/english/norwegian-ev-policy/
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