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rts551
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Why would I be jealous when I live here and you only get to visit for short periods of time, every great once in a while. See you are quite
grounded. I wouldn't trade my life for yours what so ever!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
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I heard it with my own ears. This is a DISCUSSION forum, and we are exchanging ideas to help Mexico... well I am, anyway... You are just taking up
bandwidth to try and tarnish my character with mis-quotes and spins (again).
Honestly Ralph, why do I bother you so... too much Baja? Because I am in favor of the people being in charge and not some government agency? Please
give it a rest... I don't hate you or follow you around the Internet. |
Just trying to get the facts and find out how you come up with these things. Too much baja??? Another weird one. You know I I live there most of
the time. How did you come up with that one.
Just cause you heard it makes it factual? All this leads me to be thankful you DO NOT carry a gun in Baja.
Why do you want to cut off the DISCUSSION? |
Not at all... I want it to be about the topic and not about me, that's all. The 'too much Baja' part is my wondering if me being so much in love with
Baja makes you jealous or something... I was just wondering why we couldn't be friends or friendlier here, that's all.
I am surprised you get along with Fishin' Rich... he is far far more extreme than I (and he cracks me up when we traveled and camped together, miss
him not being here). I can get along with both sides of political ideas... I don't use politics to determine friendships. It is just discussion,
that's all.
We all love Baja, and that should be enough to get along on a forum, shouldn't it? |
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
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I heard it with my own ears. This is a DISCUSSION forum, and we are exchanging ideas to help Mexico... well I am, anyway... You are just taking up
bandwidth to try and tarnish my character with mis-quotes and spins (again).
Honestly Ralph, why do I bother you so... too much Baja? Because I am in favor of the people being in charge and not some government agency? Please
give it a rest... I don't hate you or follow you around the Internet. |
Just trying to get the facts and find out how you come up with these things. Too much baja??? Another weird one. You know I I live there most of
the time. How did you come up with that one.
Just cause you heard it makes it factual? All this leads me to be thankful you DO NOT carry a gun in Baja.
Why do you want to cut off the DISCUSSION? |
Not at all... I want it to be about the topic and not about me, that's all. The 'too much Baja' part is my wondering if me being so much in love with
Baja makes you jealous or something... I was just wondering why we couldn't be friends or friendlier here, that's all.
I am surprised you get along with Fishin' Rich... he is far far more extreme than I (and he cracks me up when we traveled and camped together, miss
him not being here). I can get along with both sides of political ideas... I don't use politics to determine friendships. It is just discussion,
that's all.
We all love Baja, and that should be enough to get along on a forum, shouldn't it? |
Its not about you. Its about your claim that tourism would increase if tourists (GROUND TOURISTS) were able to arm themselves.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Well, if the people who told me they would go to Baja or go back to Baja if they could (again) carry protection... the that IS an increase.
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and how many would not go if they knew people selected people were armed?
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The same people who every day carry guns for protection don't prevent anyone from leaving their homes in the USA, do they? If those same, law abiding,
honest people were in other places (where other tourists are) as well, it changes nothing.
We are talking about the good guys... we already know the bad guys have guns, why do you want only them to have guns? Gun laws do NOTHING to keep guns
out of their hands!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Well, if the people who told me they would go to Baja or go back to Baja if they could (again) carry protection... the that IS an increase.
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and how many would not go if they knew people selected people were armed? |
And DK thinks Obama is Hitler's cousin as well....perception is reality I suppose....
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The same people who every day carry guns for protection don't prevent anyone from leaving their homes in the USA, do they? If those same, law abiding,
honest people were in other places (where other tourists are) as well, it changes nothing.
We are talking about the good guys... we already know the bad guys have guns, why do you want only them to have guns? Gun laws do NOTHING to keep guns
out of their hands!!! |
Tell that to Gabrielle Giffords. There are lots of people who go to Mexico that I would not want to be around while the are armed. I can see it
already, TJ...the new Tombstone.
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And DK thinks Obama is Hitler's cousin as well....perception is reality I suppose.... |
wrong! i think you meant idi amin's cousin, no?
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i never noticed, but now that you bring it up....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Wow, another wild claim (as if you know what I think)... although Hitler wasn't a 'natural born' German citizen, so maybe you got something there?
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More shades of Hitler... Wake UP America!....your exact words
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Carlos'n Charlie's in La Paz got shut down because rich guys were raping the waitresses *in* the restaurant.
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That must have really sucked, since ALL of the "waitresses" I remember in that place were male. So we've got a bunch of rich kid "mayates" on the
loose down here?
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
You asked for a dumb idea... couldn't think of anything more stupid than re-electing a failure... |
Wow, David, I didn't know you could criticize some of your own. It is rather astute of you (for a republican) to have noticed that we re-elected two
of the biggest failures as presidents this nation has ever produced: Reagan, who added three trillion dollars to the national deficit, and your boy
Bush, who oversaw the ruining of the national economy.
Good job, you are finally seeing the light. There's hope for you yet!
Just funny with ya. I know that you still fall for that neanderthalic "Bush president, me got lots of work, Obama gits elected president and me no too
much work. Bush good and Obama bad" way of thinking. Simple minds look for simple solutions.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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First we need to get the Entry and Exit from Mexico faster, so both sides need to work on this but mainly the American side--"Let's Go Speed It UP!"
Then we need to let more X-Ray Machines be used on any vehicle and person crossing back in or out of Mexico to make this experience faster.
Next, those having homes in Mexico should be allowed some form of protection at least a shotgun to give some peace of mind while living down there.
Nothing like racking a shotgun to get the attention of the most dangerous crook making them into the most mild crook you can find in an unwanted crook
in your home!
Getting better in line with prices on things that people know darn well are way out of line but thinking Americans will pay prices at the same level
as in USA is not working. This defeats the purpose of bringing more people to Mexico for budget minded larger groups. If you can't save some monies
here and there with people in your group why bother?? Family Vacations and tourists getting the best bang for their buck is what it is all about no
matter what anyone says,LOL. Take Care & Travel Safe----"No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777
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Legalize pot and reduce the penalties for possession other drugs to fines.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
First we need to get the Entry and Exit from Mexico faster, so both sides need to work on this but mainly the American side--"Let's Go Speed It UP!"
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I agree......not only agree, but feel this issue has become the main, number one reason for the discomfort of land-borne tourism into Mexico. Get it
back to the thirty minute wait at the gate and the whole issue will change.
That said.......Homeland Security, that same agency that feels compelled to fondle young children at the airport, will fail to see an advantage to
expedited traffic at the crossing. Our comfort just isn't part of their divine calling.
Until this changes, tourism will suffer, atrophy and wither away.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
First we need to get the Entry and Exit from Mexico faster, so both sides need to work on this but mainly the American side--"Let's Go Speed It UP!"
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I agree......not only agree, but feel this issue has become the main, number one reason for the discomfort of land-borne tourism into Mexico. Get it
back to the thirty minute wait at the gate and the whole issue will change.
That said.......Homeland Security, that same agency that feels compelled to fondle young children at the airport, will fail to see an advantage to
expedited traffic at the crossing. Our comfort just isn't part of their divine calling.
Until this changes, tourism will suffer, atrophy and wither away. |
There is whole other set of people, people who have no desire to go to Mexico, who feel differently about border security. Easing passage through
border crossings might be a non-player. Just ask the governor of Arizona.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
There is whole other set of people, people who have no desire to go to Mexico, who feel differently about border security. Easing passage through
border crossings might be a non-player. Just ask the governor of Arizona. |
I'm not suggesting less security, Ralph. Just sayin' that the current situation is killing a segment of tourism as we know it. If that's how it has
to be, then that's the way it will be.
Either lower the level of scrutiny or raise it. Traffic flow will seek it's own level. One more event on or near the scale of 9-11, and our borders
will be effectively shut anyway.
Isolation time. Get ready for it.
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I'm happy to see that cooler heads have finally prevailed and that this topic got back on track. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
Bush, who oversaw the ruining of the national economy.
neanderthalic Simple minds look for simple solutions. |
Bajatripper, You forgot 2 IRRESPONSIBLE, ILL TARGETED
NO WIN WARS, 10 yrs. worth, good neanderthal reference
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Some ultra liberal had to play the "Bush's Fault" card, their answer to all the worlds problems. Works for the current prez of the US. But playing the
"blame game" never solved anything.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, this thread (I thought) was to share IDEAS for bringing tourism back... I guess only liberal approved ideas get a pass here? I just posted the
one idea of allowing tourists to defend themselves with equal or greater force than the criminal already has.
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You all are crazy as loons if you think that Mexico will relax its gun control laws to bring back tourists. Mexican politicians would be laughed out
of office if they changed gun laws just to facilitate arming of gringo tourists! 
Can you imagine if US politicians did similar, relaxed US laws to promote tourism by armed canadians and germans?
p.s. liberal-approved ideas are better than conservative-approved ideas, for example the difference in position between GOP and DEMS re a womans right
to choose!
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