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David K
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Exactly, we don't want any harm to come to them, ever. Funny how that isn't understood by our advice regarding the non-shoulder sections of 1973's
highway...
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TecateRay
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I call them "Darwin's" since they are obvious proof that these bicyclists care as little fOr their own lives as they do for the motorists on the road.
They are not going to survive and I only hope they don't take someone else with them.
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Bajaboy
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Again, why does a 35 ft RV have more right to the road than a bicycle? I've had more close calls with the huge RVs and travel trailers than any
cyclists
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David K
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Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ???
When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and
busses, which you forgot to include).
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ???
When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and
busses, which you forgot to include). |
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ???
When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and
busses, which you forgot to include). |
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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Umm- Economically bikes vs RV's or 18 wheelers is a no brainer. The average RV or 18 wheeler contributes $.50/mile traveled to Pemex. Pemex is a
government money collection agency who helps pay to keep the road open. A trip to Baja in a RV will contribute $500-1,000 dollars in fuel to the
Mexican economy not counting other expenditures. Bikes purchasing tacos don't cut it by comparison. If the bike riders would chip in maybe the
government would build them a bike path.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ???
When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and
busses, which you forgot to include). |
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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Bajaa boy,
You are asking questions of selfish dolts. flock them, ignore them, life is too short to suffer them.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ???
When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and
busses, which you forgot to include). |
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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Umm- Economically bikes vs RV's or 18 wheelers is a no brainer. The average RV or 18 wheeler contributes $.50/mile traveled to Pemex. Pemex is a
government money collection agency who helps pay to keep the road open. A trip to Baja in a RV will contribute $500-1,000 dollars in fuel to the
Mexican economy not counting other expenditures. Bikes purchasing tacos don't cut it by comparison. If the bike riders would chip in maybe the
government would build them a bike path. |
In your world the rich or big spenders have superior rights. Sad world you live in.
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Umm... a motorhome needs a 2 lane paved highway... a bike does not... ???
When the 2 lane narrow, shoulderless highway adds a shoulder or another lane, then it is SAFE for both bikes and motorhomes (also semi trucks and
busses, which you forgot to include). |
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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Umm- Economically bikes vs RV's or 18 wheelers is a no brainer. The average RV or 18 wheeler contributes $.50/mile traveled to Pemex. Pemex is a
government money collection agency who helps pay to keep the road open. A trip to Baja in a RV will contribute $500-1,000 dollars in fuel to the
Mexican economy not counting other expenditures. Bikes purchasing tacos don't cut it by comparison. If the bike riders would chip in maybe the
government would build them a bike path. |
In your world the rich or big spenders have superior rights. Sad world you live in. |
Sorry Goat. I see no mention of anyone claiming superior rights to the road here. I simply pointed out that the fuel burners are the ones paying the
bills. Is there a problem with that? After all, it is a fact. This post has been about those who think the bikers are fools to travel at the mercy of
whatever iron is speeding down the road, and the bikers insisting they should be accommodated. So far I haven't seen any statistics on bikers being
mowed over, so the system is working for both, although a bit shaky.
Thankfully my world isn't so sad as you suggest, as I don't drive down the road seething with anger at every Porshe, Mercedes, RV, or Humvee I see
because the owner may have more than I do, and thinking they should be required to "share the wealth". More power to them, they may have worked hard
for what they have. That's what used to be called the free enterprise system. Work hard and you will achieve.
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mtgoat666
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does mexico have specific fuel taxes that directly fund highways???
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
does mexico have specific fuel taxes that directly fund highways??? |
Pemex funds about a third of Mexico's national budget. I think it would be safe to say a fair amount of that funds the transportation system. Where
else could it come from?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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"You better fix that road or we will call the prensa and then protest outside your office and finally find someone to campaign against you for the
next election"
"Damn! There goes the new flatscreen and vacation with la chica in Acapulco"
"Sanchez Paving owes me a favor for keeping his son out of jail when he drive through the window of licores Rodriguez.
"Hey Sancho, what will it cost to put down ten millimeters of your cheapest chapopote on the calle principal"
Obligaciones Presupuestarias
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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As a friend of mine says (who happens to be a LEO), "The vehicle with the most lug nuts has the right of way"
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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The highway was built to benefit the people of the peninsula of Baja California... If motorhomes and long distance bicycles were the only two groups
you want to mention (but in reality all other automobiles, trucks, and busses should be included), which one 'contributes' more to the wealth of the
peninsula, and benefits the most people? This is a no brainer for most...
Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the
peninsula.... instead of providing passage to all by requesting the bikes to be transported over the dangerous middle section on a truck or bus...
thus providing some income to truck or bus operators.
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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This is a no brainer for most...
Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the
peninsula....
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WTF? ROTFLMAO. 
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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David K
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Yah, it is pretty funny, huh Matt? Have a good one... and your RV is still the biggest vehicle ever to get to Rancho Matomí!!! Is that trip the first
time you met Bajaboy, too? http://vivabaja.com/matomi
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joerover
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to old to drive
education is the answer
all can use the road safely when drivers are educated
pass a bicycle the same way you pass a car
4 wheels over the center line
save a life HIT THE BREAKS
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Umm....again why does a motorhome have more right to the road than a bicycle...they are both legally allowed to use the road? If we are concerned
with safety then maybe we should outlaw over-sized vehicles on Hwy 1.
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The highway was built to benefit the people of the peninsula of Baja California... If motorhomes and long distance bicycles were the only two groups
you want to mention (but in reality all other automobiles, trucks, and busses should be included), which one 'contributes' more to the wealth of the
peninsula, and benefits the most people? This is a no brainer for most...
Yet, in the logic of economic destruction you follow, you would ban the motorized vehicles in favor of the few touring bike riders, tripping down the
peninsula.... instead of providing passage to all by requesting the bikes to be transported over the dangerous middle section on a truck or bus...
thus providing some income to truck or bus operators.
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the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Then There's Always The School Of Hard Knocks
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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wessongroup
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Over the years I have slowly driven by several nasty crashes. There were lots of people standing around looking at prone figures. Hate to say how many
of them remained prone. Most of these crashes were in the area of Rio de El Rosario south to Tres Enriques. One was on the flats between Jesus Maria
and GN and another was on the grade south of Loreto.
Yep there's folks who hold onto a cannonball to free dive where it is pitch black and engage in Extreme Sports. Darwin hard at work.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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