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Ateo
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A California State University that opened partially last week is sending all kids home from the dorms this weekend....I just dropped a kid off and now
I’m headed back to pick her up. Thanks to all the idiots not social distancing at school......
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SFandH
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1 Sep
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
I chose these data (active cases) because they are determined by laboratory tests taken in hospitals. The trends over time are informative.

[Edited on 9-2-2020 by SFandH]
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BajaParrothead
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I looked at the La Paz municipality numbers and they appear to be from July 31. 2020.
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Hmmm, that's what it says at the bottom of the page. Looks like they stopped updating the data. I'll edit my post to remove the link.
Thanks, good catch.
[Edited on 9-2-2020 by SFandH]
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SFandH
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9 Sep
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
I chose these data (active cases) because they are determined by laboratory tests taken in hospitals. The trends over time are informative.
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SFandH
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18 Sep
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
I chose these data (active cases) because they are determined by laboratory tests taken in hospitals. The trends over time are informative.
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Lengua
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Why is the virus so much greater in BCS versus Norte? Population?
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SFandH
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The important information to be gleaned from these numbers are the trends over time.
Look at La Paz for example. If the same hospitals reported each time, you can see a steady increase through July/August that has since subsided.
Generally, the peninsula is sort of treading water. Not getting all that worse or better the entire summer. Although the Mexicali and Tijuana numbers
are low this time and there appears to be a slight decreasing trend in the infection rate overall.
It could have exploded. Fortunately it didn't
I did this for myself. I'd go to the referenced webpages, look at the numbers, and wouldn't know what to think. Without a perspective over time, you
can't answer the simple question, are things getting better, staying the same, or worse?
Based upon these numbers, I don't have any problem going to BCS for the winter. If the numbers were climbing rapidly, I'd stay home.
[Edited on 9-19-2020 by SFandH]
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gnukid
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AKGringo The issue is that the thread is sharing data points that are largely demonstrably invalid, by all counts.
If the poster wants to share the links and images, it is their option, as it is mine to share sourced data showing that Mexico is at the bottom of the
scale of testing, currently officially about 11,000 unvalidated tests yet shows among the highest rate per capita of infections of CV19, numbers not
based on verified data.
Many cases have been reported of falsified CV19 test results in BCS to date, absolute chaos in ISSSTE from lack of equipment, medicine and staff.
Today BCS is reported as practically the highest per capita rate of infection in the world, yet, there are few people demonstrably ill, and no case of
validated CV19 infection.
The falsified data is causing extreme harm to mental, physical and economic health.
This is an open forum, you are free to disregard my messages, simply pass over them. Your desire to restrict dialogue is suspicious as are the extreme
personal attacks by your fantom virus promoters.
We live in BCS, we want the truth, we will share sourced data to share the truth. There is no validated pandemic anywhere in the world not in BCS,
while there is demonstrated collusion to cause severe harm by Biopharma.
It's all coming out now, everyday another card falls. It's over Johnny!
[Edited on 9-20-2020 by gnukid]
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mtgoat666
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Here in the USA, the data set is increasing, and the statistics are getting more accurate.
Covid-19 looks to have an infection fatality rate of 0.65%, or in other words is about 6-times more deadly than seasonal flu.
Cofid-19 is on track to be the third leading cause of death this year, behind heart disease and cancer, and ahead of accidents, chronic lung diseases
and stroke.
For you disease deniers, Here is an interesting chart, from paper in Nature This month...


[Edited on 9-21-2020 by mtgoat666]
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MTGoat that is exactly correct - excess deaths is the only way to really measure the impact of a pandemic since so many countries have such inaccurate
counts of cases or deaths caused from covid. Also, evidence that Covid-19 is deadlier is the number of deaths caused from it - so far we have 4 times
the number of deaths caused either directly from the flu or deaths caused by complications of the flu (AKA pre-existing conditions) in a bad flu year
and we are only 6 months in. I shudder to see what is going to happen when winter comes and everyone wants their liberty, but indoors.
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SFandH
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03 Oct
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
[Edited on 10-3-2020 by SFandH]
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | Here in the USA, the data set is increasing, and the statistics are getting more accurate.
Covid-19 looks to have an infection fatality rate of 0.65%, or in other words is about 6-times more deadly than seasonal flu.
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Maybe. The problem is that flu has a high number of mild and asymptomatic infections that are not accounted for by the CDC, which rely on
hospitalizations instead. Doctors are not concerned with mild cases of flu. There was an article in July with an estimates of total flu infections
(including mild ones missing in statistics), they concluded that Covid was at least 50 times deadlier: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/07/coronavir...
Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  | Also, evidence that Covid-19 is deadlier is the number of deaths caused from it - so far we have 4 times the number of deaths caused either directly
from the flu or deaths caused by complications of the flu (AKA pre-existing conditions) in a bad flu year and we are only 6 months in. I shudder to
see what is going to happen when winter comes and everyone wants their liberty, but indoors. |
It will likely get worse in winter. In Canada where winters come sooner, some provinces are considering closing bars, indoor service in restaurants
and other measures due to the 2nd wave of Covid. "Considering", meaning it may or may not come to be.
Here is an interesting article on liberties and other things: China's successful control of COVID-19.
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“The speed of China's response was the crucial factor”, explains Gregory Poland, director of the Vaccine Research Group at the Mayo Clinic
(Rochester, Minnesota, USA).
“Compliance was very high”, said Chen. “Compare that with the USA, where even in June and July, when the virus was surging, people were still
refusing to wear masks".
“Commitment to the greater good is engrained in the (Chinese) culture; there is not the hyper-individualism that characterises parts of the USA, and
has driven most of the resistance to the countermeasures against the coronavirus.” Poland noted that the Chinese accept the notion that disease
control is a matter of science.
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In Mexico it looks same pathetic as in the USA. No anti-science movement there, no willingness of the government or resources to control the
epidemic, either. Their 7-day average positivity is >20%, this means that a lot of infection goes undetected.
[Edited on 10-9-2020 by Alm]
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Any updates available?
I am curious to see if the trend is goin up, or down when cooler temperatures arrive.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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SFandH
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15 Jun 2021
Thought I would resurrect last year's spreadsheet to see what's up. See the bottom rows for today's data.
Data Sources:
BC - http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/coronavirus
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...

oops, correction:
Ensenada 10
Tecate 2
[Edited on 6-15-2021 by SFandH]
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SFandH
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | 15 Jun 2021
Thought I would resurrect last year's spreadsheet to see what's up. See the bottom rows for today's data. |
Weird increase in Los Cabos between the last two readings. Anybody have ideas on why the increase is so high compared to other places in the chart?
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In May 2021 there were twice as many tourists (airline arrivals) in Cabo as there were in October 2020.
Compared to other places, Cabo sees most of the tourists, perhaps that's why the increase is high when compared to other places.
http://fiturca.com/difusion/estadisticas/
[Edited on 6-15-2021 by SFandH]
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | Quote: Originally posted by lencho  | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | 15 Jun 2021
Thought I would resurrect last year's spreadsheet to see what's up. See the bottom rows for today's data. |
Weird increase in Los Cabos between the last two readings. Anybody have ideas on why the increase is so high compared to other places in the chart?
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In May 2021 there were twice as many tourists (airline arrivals) in Cabo as there were in October 2020.
Compared to other places, Cabo sees most of the tourists, perhaps that's why the increase is high when compared to other places.
http://fiturca.com/difusion/estadisticas/
[Edited on 6-15-2021 by SFandH] |
Testing is required for intl travel as such much more testing is readily available, mobile, pop up, in hotels, labs, antigen, per rt, etc, as well as
less skilled testing, meaning errors, default high cycle threshold counts causing false positives, resulting in high numbers of "cases", while overall
you can see the number of cases is very low, there is not significant actual excess deaths associated directly to covid, beyond those who are already
dying from pre-existing illness.
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FYI you can travel through TJ to CBX with no testing requirement, it's actually faster than dealing with the chaos in Cabo and 3 hour advance
preflight arrival. Flying out of La Paz is very pleasant, faster, and none of the covid nonsense.
Today in California, there were parties everywhere, all day, businesses with grand openings, street fairs, all stores I visited have a no mask policy.
Smiles and handshakes and kisses everywhere, with a common understanding that we must manage our health care and never give up your decisions to
Globalists with ulterior fraudulent agendas.
There will always be corrupt globalists and politicians, and they will always be trying to control and profit, while we ignore them and go about our
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  |
Today in California, there were parties everywhere, all day, businesses with grand openings, street fairs, all stores I visited have a no mask policy.
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Paul,
I think here in CA only the vaccinated may be unmasked in stores, and unvaccinated must still wear masks. Calosha still requires workers to mask up.
So, did you get vaccinated? Why won’t you answer this question?
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According to La Tribuna Los Cabos, cases there have risen over 200%.
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