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This from your article:
“Those data do not capture the epidemic situation in Denmark adequately,” tweeted political scientist Michael Bang Petersen, who advises the
Danish government and leads the country’s largest study of pandemic behavior.
“Hospital burden in regards to COVID-19 is still low compared to former waves, and mortality is low,” Søren Neermark, an official at the Danish
Health Authority, went on to explain.
“Test-positive admitted in Denmark” — that is, the number of people who are hospitalized with COVID but not necessarily because of it —
“reflects high incidence in society, but is not the best current indicator for the burden of COVID-19.”
The bottom line is ppl are done with Covid.
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The bottom line is ppl are done with Covid.
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I feel you....but is Covid done with us?
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Hi Surabi: After reading that full article it appears to agree with what I posted, or was there a particular part that you wished me to read? Not sure
what your point was. Denmark, the country referenced has dropped all mandates and has decided to go back to life as normal.
According to this site, Denmark presently has a Case fatality Rate of 0.17% while the US is sitting at 1.19% and on a slight rising trend at present:
https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid
Here is Denmark's logic according to this article:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/europe/denmark-lifts-covid-re...
"At the same time as infections are skyrocketing, patients admitted to intensive care actually going down," he said. "It's around 30 people in ICU
beds right now with a COVID-19 diagnosis, out of a population of 6 million."
Brostrøm said he did not think vaccine mandates were necessary.
"I do not believe in imposed vaccine mandates," he said. "It's a pharmaceutical intervention with possible side effects. You need as an authority to
recognize that. I think if you push too much, you will have a reaction -- action generates reaction, especially with vaccines"
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Am I reading this correctly and Baja has gone into green zone? Any changes on masks, gatherings, shopping, etc in La Paz? Omicron surge seems to be
waning very rapidly.
https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/english/
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https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/
[Edited on 2-27-2022 by BajaNomad]
Woke!
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I'm hoping there is no pi variant, and that we're done with this plague. That said, yesterday I ordered takeout from a local restaurant here
on Cape Cod and was stunned by how packed it was on a Thursday night. My wife and I have managed to remain Covid-free by reducing our risks, and for
now that includes not dining indoors during winter. We made one exception for my wife's birthday in December - before Omicron reared its ugly head -
and made sure we were tested before and after. The meal was delicious, and the fully masked staff made us feel very safe.
The same was true during our recent trip to Todos Santos. Mask compliance was 100% - even landscapers working outdoors - and with most restaurants
offering outdoor seating, we felt very safe. Our only angst occurred back in the U.S., where the occasional traveller ignored the ubiquitous signs in
airports and decided it didn't pertain to them.
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Yeah the masked people at restaurants are the best. They only drop the mask between occasional bites.
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I respect people that wear a mask to enter the lobby, then drop it to sit a table, then put it on to order, then drop to have a drink, then put it on
to talk their significant other, then drop it for ice cream, only drop the mask every moment when they put food in tenor moth but cover it when they
chew, please.
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Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  | I'm hoping there is no pi variant, and that we're done with this plague. That said, yesterday I ordered takeout from a local restaurant here
on Cape Cod and was stunned by how packed it was on a Thursday night. My wife and I have managed to remain Covid-free by reducing our risks, and for
now that includes not dining indoors during winter. We made one exception for my wife's birthday in December - before Omicron reared its ugly head -
and made sure we were tested before and after. The meal was delicious, and the fully masked staff made us feel very safe.
The same was true during our recent trip to Todos Santos. Mask compliance was 100% - even landscapers working outdoors - and with most restaurants
offering outdoor seating, we felt very safe. Our only angst occurred back in the U.S., where the occasional travel ignored the ubiquitous signs in
airports and decided it didn't pertain to them. |
The 85 yo Queen just got it and only had cold like symptoms.
I think it's safe for you to start living life again.
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If I do come across the occasional person who is not wearing a mask indoors, I assume they have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing
one. I have the choice of giving them a very wide berth.
That said, why would I be overly concerned about a virus that's now as deadly as the flu? Its been well discussed the vast majority don't even know
they have it and the Scientists tell us only 20-35% show symptoms at all.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | If I do come across the occasional person who is not wearing a mask indoors, I assume they have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing
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The US is a lot different. And varies greatly by state and even from county to county.
FL has been mask optional for 1.5yrs.
San Diego and Ventura Counties in CA were mask optional most of last Fall. They are again now. We went to a big trade show in SD last week and only
a 3rd were wearing masks.
LA County has been the worst. But finally ppl are saying screw in and not bothering to wear one regardless what it says on the door.
Went to a Rams game in Oct. They said outside the stadium 50 times to wear a mask. Inside hardly anyone did. Same for the Rose Bowl in January.
It's just pitiful what they have done making kids wear masks for 8 hrs a day. When the science clearly says that is the wrong thing to do.
The at risk should be wear masks. And not any mask, anN85 mask. Cloth masks are absolutely worthless and surgical masks are only a bit better.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
It's just pitiful what they have done making kids wear masks for 8 hrs a day. When the science clearly says that is the wrong thing to do.
The at risk should be wear masks. And not any mask, anN85 mask. Cloth masks are absolutely worthless and surgical masks are only a bit better.
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What's pitiful? The number of people who think they are qualified to make medical decisions. These ignorants also think they are qualified to
make decisions for other people.
Science clearly says it's wrong for kids to be wearing masks? Just more disinformation from bogus sources.
JZ is qualified to make bogus statements here. Like Paul and others.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Lee,
Watching CNN or MSNBC makes you “qualified”? It seems that “qualified” equals “agrees with you”!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
What's pitiful? The number of people who think they are qualified to make medical decisions. These ignorants also think they are qualified to
make decisions for other people.
Science clearly says it's wrong for kids to be wearing masks? Just more disinformation from bogus sources.
JZ is qualified to make bogus statements here. Like Paul and others. |
Lee, you really need to do some research. There are all kinds of reports out from reputable sources that say kids developmental growth has been
stunted and their learning set back. Facial expressions are much more important than you think. Especially, when young minds are developing.
And the science clearly says the extreme majority of kids aren't at risk of significant illness from Covid.
The risk-benefit of kids wearing masks vs. not wearing masks heavily leans one way.
The problem is powerful teachers' unions were allowed to influence CDC guidelines. And that is a fact, as direct correspondence between the groups
was leaked by whistle blowers and acknowledged as true by the CDC.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
I hope you didn't understand Lee's statement to imply that JZ's, Paul's and others' statements are credible?
You did see the word "bogus", right? I suspect you're on the same page without even realizing it. 
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You are confused on what he meant. He meant Lee watches too much CNN.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
What's pitiful? The number of people who think they are qualified to make medical decisions. These ignorants also think they are qualified to
make decisions for other people.
Science clearly says it's wrong for kids to be wearing masks? Just more disinformation from bogus sources.
JZ is qualified to make bogus statements here. Like Paul and others. |
Lee, you really need to do some research. There are all kinds of reports out from reputable sources that say kids developmental growth has been
stunted and their learning set back. Facial expressions are much more important than you think. Especially, when young minds are developing.
And the science clearly says the extreme majority of kids aren't at risk of significant illness from Covid.
The risk-benefit of kids wearing masks vs. not wearing masks heavily leans one way.
The problem is powerful teachers' unions were allowed to influence CDC guidelines. And that is a fact, as direct correspondence between the groups
was leaked by whistle blowers and acknowledged as true by the CDC.
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Show us the science! Don’t believe your argument without peer reviewed science.
You know what is really bad for kids?
Guns.
Poverty.
Bad parenting.
Drugs.
Pollution.
Bad nutrition.
Over-use of technology.
Woke!
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Goat,
You left Government off of your list of what’s bad for kids and adults too!
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Oh my! An anarchist!
Well said goat. I couldn't agree more. Those who cite the welfare of children when promoting their narcissistic agenda are only fooling the
ignorant.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob |
Oh my! An anarchist!
Well said goat. I couldn't agree more. Those who cite the welfare of children when promoting their narcissistic agenda are only fooling the
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Modern examples of anarchy don’t look too healthy for children…
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Guys,
Never said I was an Anarchist! I said government (too much!) can be bad for you like salt (too much!) is bad for you. A small amount of both is
necessary!
We could have a very long discussion on how much of either is enough. Locke would be a good start! Thoreau as well!
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