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surabi
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"It's happening now, watch the news."
A. The deniers don't care about people in India. They will only care when it affects them directly. JZ thinks the temperature in Las Vegas and So Cal
are relevant as proof that it's all some overblown hoax.
B. Deniers don't deny that it's happening, they just maintain that "the weather has always been changing, it's a natural phenomenon."
Nothing wakes these people up.
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surabi
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Yet it has been 290 days since Las Vegas hit 100 degrees. 2 days away from breaking the all time record. And SoCal recorded its 5th coldest Spring
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And this is relevant how, other than pointing out that you live in an area where you find the temperature comfortable?
Temp in Puerto Vallarta today is 93, with a "feels like" of 109.
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Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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mtgoat666
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Some of you denialists say man cannot change the earth. Scientist would say you are kooky…
Humans pump so much groundwater that Earth’s axis has shifted, study finds
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/world/pumping-groundwater-ear...
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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News about positive effects of our ever changing climate.
https://phys.org/news/2023-06-future-turbulence-alleviate-in...
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Even if carbon emissions are reduced to “0” world wide tempatures will continue to increase for at least a decade.
https://phys.org/news/2023-06-cooling-planet-doesnt-net-scie...
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Clarkles,
Is that another one of your excuses for doing nothing?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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RFClark
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SFandH and Goat,
The Chinese, Russians and Iranians account for almost 50% of the emissions. There currently is no plan to do anything about that without a world war
which will solve the climate and overpopulation problems in a way no one will like.
This post is in support of my past statements that the plan as put forward doesn't address the problem as stated. As a technical type, I see solutions
that don’t address the stated problem as just moving the deckchairs around. The ship will still sink.
I am doing my part!
[Edited on 6-28-2023 by RFClark]
[Edited on 6-28-2023 by RFClark]
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They came for our gas cars. Then they came for our gas dryers. Next it was our gas stoves.
And now they are taking wood flame grilled pizzas from us?? Where will the madness end?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/nyc-pizzerias-torch-dem...
[Edited on 6-28-2023 by JZ]
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RFClark
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JZ,
They’re coming for the cheese and pepperoni next! Sausage too!
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I'll shoot the bastards if they try to come for my dogs!
Our pets are part of the climate problem.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/15/us/pets-climate-impact-lbg-we...
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surabi
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Relax, JZ. You're white, male and heterosexual. "They" aren't coming to take anything away from you. You can come out of your basement now, all clear.
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Mexican Climate News
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/29/mexico-power-g...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/15/mexico-coal-fo...
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surabi
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Huge transformer blew in my town 2 days ago, because of all the AC and fans that are being used in the unrelenting 100 degree temps we've been having
for the past couple weeks. It took 24 hrs for them to restore the power. Miserable sweaty night for everyone with no cooling, and lots of food gone
bad for anyone without a generator or solar.
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CFE = can’t find electricity!
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Huge transformer blew in my town 2 days ago, because of all the AC and fans that are being used in the unrelenting 100 degree temps we've been having
for the past couple weeks. It took 24 hrs for them to restore the power. Miserable sweaty night for everyone with no cooling, and lots of food gone
bad for anyone without a generator or solar. |
If you could afford enough solar just to run a fridge and a small single room AC unit to keep temps liveable, it would be a big benefit for the
future. Backup generator, while its a quicker solution, tends to be problematic long term.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
If you could afford enough solar just to run a fridge and a small single room AC unit to keep temps liveable, it would be a big benefit for the
future. Backup generator, while its a quicker solution, tends to be problematic long term. |
Solar would never be cost-effective for me. While it would come in handy if the power goes out, which it normally doesn't for long enough to be an
issue, my electric bills are never more than 200 pesos for a two month billing period and usually even less. Solar installation cost would never pay
for itself in my lifetime unless I wanted AC, a pool, etc, which I don't. Even if I had solar, I wouldn't have AC- I prefer fans.
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Another view. The Fox and NY Post articles seem like manufactured outrage at which they both seem to excel.
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/jun/28/rightwingers-sa...
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
If you could afford enough solar just to run a fridge and a small single room AC unit to keep temps liveable, it would be a big benefit for the
future. Backup generator, while its a quicker solution, tends to be problematic long term. |
Solar would never be cost-effective for me. While it would come in handy if the power goes out, which it normally doesn't for long enough to be an
issue, my electric bills are never more than 200 pesos for a two month billing period and usually even less. Solar installation cost would never pay
for itself in my lifetime unless I wanted AC, a pool, etc, which I don't. Even if I had solar, I wouldn't have AC- I prefer fans.
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That seems to be the issue with solar reluctance in Mexico. Small electrical loads cost very little for most and the additional cost of solar is
seldom viable over a short term.
We did away with all necessary butane uses and justified a completely electric house based on comfort, safety, reliability, EV charging, distilled
water production and finally cost compared to running power in on CFE poles. As a percentage of total home cost when building, it was surprisingly
cheap at around 12.5% of total home costs.
A CFE supplied similar sized lot alone would have eaten up at least two thirds of that cost.
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