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One doesn't need to be a "professional" anything to have accurate knowledge about something, Goat.
You don't need to be a professional baker to know that if you set the oven to 500 degrees and put a tray of cookies in there for 15 minutes, they are
going to burn.
You don't need to be a professional road engineer to know that dumping some sand in a pothole isn't going to "fix" the road.
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Not an engineer, but I have been a Troll more than a few times...
Not the kind that hang out here....I was the kind that hang out under bridges installing supports while traffic was driving overhead.
Probably a third of my career involved forming, pouring of modifying concrete structures. My favorite project was the Sea Life Center in Seward
Alaska. It was very challenging and unusual configuration.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Goat,
In the NA court system an “expert” is a person who earns all or part of their income from the field they claim to be “expert” in.
I have built 3 houses in Mexico and done well financially from them. Based on that I qualify as an “expert” on building houses in Mexico.
I even did a lot of the work on the first 2 myself.
Different aspects of the construction process require different skills and skill levels. In the past a lot of the masters learned by starting at the
bottom and working their way up. That’s how Mexico still works. Here you can be expert enough to build a complete one or two story home from
scratch, requiring perhaps only an electrician to complete the process. The “engineering” part of that process hasn’t really changed much in 400
years.
Rebar and concrete block columns have replaced stone and mortar columns but it’s still an X - Y - Z frame carrying the load and the in-between
filled with whatever blocks or in the old days rocks and rubble. Complete either with a coat of whatever including adobe mud and straw topped with
Lime whitewash. Presto! A house!
An NA house is a rather different animal that most NAs take for granted until they come south and try to buy the same thing.
That’s the subject of a different post.
[Edited on 7-7-2023 by RFClark]
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All you “professionals” are very touchy!
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Getting back on topic…
Climate change is turning Hawaii into a giant cesspool—literally
https://fortune.com/2023/07/06/climate-change-is-turning-haw...
I wonder if Hawaiians measure sea level change using palm trees?
How northern Mexico became a climate migration destination
https://www.hcn.org/issues/55.7/south-climate-change-how-nor...
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More about experts:
Leonardo DiCaprio is the most trusted authority on the climate crisis — beating Greta Thunberg, Al Gore, and the Rock
https://www.businessinsider.com/leonardo-dicaprio-most-trust...
Dk, Clarkie and half pint did not make the list…
Woke!
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Jtfc.. this is exactly why so many Millennials and Gen Z are so confused and bamboozled.
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In Texas, Dead Fish and Red-Faced Desperation Are Signs of Things to Come
NYT, 7-8-23 By Jeff Goodell Mr. Goodell is the author of the forthcoming book, “The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched
Planet.”
In 2019, I happened to be visiting Phoenix on a 115-degree day. I had a meeting one afternoon about 10 blocks from the hotel where I was staying
downtown. I gamely thought I’d brave the heat and walk to it. How bad could the heat really be? I grew up in California, not the Arctic. I thought I
knew heat. I was wrong. After walking three blocks, I felt dizzy. After seven blocks, my heart was pounding. After 10 blocks, I thought I was a goner.
That experience led me to spend the next three years researching and reporting a book about the dangers of extreme heat and how rising temperatures
are reshaping our world. I talked to doctors about how when the core temperature of our bodies rises too high, the proteins in our cells begin to
unravel. I sailed to Antarctica to see how changes in ocean temperature accelerate the melting of glaciers, causing seas to rise and flooding coastal
cities around the world. I talked to people in the slums of India and in oven-like apartments in Arizona and in stifling hot garrets in Paris. I
trapped mosquitoes in Houston and learned about how the spread of dengue fever and malaria is altered by hotter temperatures. I talked to engineers
about how heat bends railroad tracks and weakens bridges. In short, I thought I had a pretty good idea about the impacts of extreme heat in our world.
And then, in mid-June, a few weeks before publication of my book, a heat dome settled over the entire Southwest as well as Mexico, breaking
temperature records and turning asphalt to mush. I had recently moved to Austin, Texas. Yes, Texas is a hot place. But this was different. We’re
talking about a heat index — the combination of temperature and humidity — as high as 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
Events disturbingly similar to what I had reported on in other places several years earlier were playing out in real time around me, like hikers dying
of heatstroke and thousands of dead fish washing up on Gulf Coast beaches (hotter water contains less oxygen, making it difficult for fish to
breathe). The red-faced desperation on the faces of homeless people living beneath an overpass near me was spookily evocative of the red-faced
desperation I’d seen on the faces of people in India and Pakistan.
You can argue that Texas has done this to itself. The planet is getting hotter because of the burning of fossil fuels. This is a simple truth, as
clear as the moon in the night sky. No state has profited more from fossil fuels than Texas. Revenues from oil and gas production have long been
central to the Texas economy and are at least partly responsible for the more than $32 billion projected surplus in the state’s 2024-25 budget. And
Texas is also responsible for emitting more than 600 million metric tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere each year, more than twice as much as
any other state.
The heat dome made visible the barbarity of the state’s political leadership. More workers die in Texas from high temperatures than anywhere else in
the country. Nevertheless, on the very day when it was so hot that I didn’t want to walk outside to check the mail until after dark, Gov. Greg
Abbott gave final approval to a law that will eliminate local ordinances requiring water breaks for construction workers. Despite the state’s
massive budget surplus, many Texas prisons remain without air-conditioning, turning cells into torture chambers on hot days.
If you are lucky enough and well-off enough, perhaps there is no sense that a life-threatening force has invaded your world. This past week, records
were set or tied on four consecutive days as the hottest days ever recorded on Earth. On Monday, I happened to be sitting in an air-conditioned cafe
in Austin. Around me, people drank iced coffees and bottled water, seemingly unconcerned as the heat outside beat down mercilessly. In my
neighborhood, where a couple tore down a modest house, cut down big shady trees and erected a McMansion with a black roof that sucks up heat, massive
compressors for the air-conditioning hang off the side of the house like tactical weapons in the climate war.
In some ways, Mr. Abbott’s callousness is not surprising. Many Texans see extreme heat as a feeble foe. At the height of the Texas heat wave, the
official Twitter account for a Texas university football team featured a video of a fully suited player running sprints while dragging a heavy chain.
“Working in that Texas heat,” the tweet boasted, followed by a fire emoji. Like risking your life in the heat makes you a real cowboy.
Not far from my house is a gym called “HEAT Bootcamp” (the gym’s marketing pitch: “Join the heat wave”). Here, enduring heat is a sign of
inner strength (a throwback to medieval times, perhaps, when heat was linked to masculinity through what the philosopher Thomas Aquinas called “the
elemental heat of the semen”).
Fortunately, despite high demand for electricity from everyone cranking their A.C., the Texas grid has held steady, largely because of the enormous
number of solar panels that have come online in Texas in recent years. People have flocked to Austin’s green spaces, especially the spring-fed
Barton Springs pool, proving the value of cool public spaces. At the Blanton Museum of Art in Austin (where my wife is the director) a hot, lifeless
courtyard has been transformed into a shady, welcoming patio by the installation of a dozen elegant 40-foot-high structures in the shape of flower
petals — proof, if such proof is needed, that a cool city can be a beautiful city.
Among climate activists and others concerned about the future of the planet, there is a lot of talk now about the need for inspiring stories and
hopeful solutions. I agree. We are not doomed. In fact, I think the climate crisis is, above all else, an opportunity to change how we think about our
relationship with nature and build a happier, healthier, more just world.
But living under the Texas heat dome has reinforced my view that we have to be cleareyed about the scope and scale of what we are facing. The extreme
heat that is cooking many parts of the world this summer is not a freakish event — it is another step into our burning future. The wildfires in
Canada, the orange Blade Runner skies on the East Coast, the hot ocean, the rapidly melting glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica and the Himalayas,
the high price of food, the spread of vector-borne diseases in unexpected places — it is all connected, and it is all driven by rising heat.
We need to start seeing hot days as more than an invitation to go to the beach or hang out at the lake. Extreme heat is the engine of planetary chaos.
We ignore it at our peril. Because if there is one thing we should understand about the risks of extreme heat, it is this: All living things, from
humans to hummingbirds, share one simple fate. If the temperature they’re used to — what scientists sometimes call their Goldilocks Zone — rises
too far, too fast, they die.
[Edited on 7-8-2023 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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Goat,
She certainly walks the walk better than Kerry, she’s smarter too!
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Why are you sexually objectifying her?
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  | Not the kind that hang out here....I was the kind that hang out under bridges installing supports while traffic was driving overhead.
Probably a third of my career involved forming, pouring of modifying concrete structures. My favorite project was the Sea Life Center in Seward
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And, a job well done. The Seward sea life center is a credit to Alaska.
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[Edited on 7-9-2023 by surabi]
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A Climate Scientist who makes sense on dealing with climate change.
From nuclear power to electric vehicles, battles between activists risk getting in the way of reducing emissions
https://apple.news/Afil_kN4-Sjy4VaRVoGP8hQ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | In Texas, Dead Fish and Red-Faced Desperation Are Signs of Things to Come
NYT, 7-8-23 By Jeff Goodell Mr. Goodell is the author of the forthcoming book, “The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched
Planet.”
In 2019, I happened to be visiting Phoenix on a 115-degree day. I had a meeting one afternoon about 10 blocks from the hotel where I was staying
downtown. I gamely thought I’d brave the heat and walk to it. How bad could the heat really be? I grew up in California, not the Arctic. I thought I
knew heat. I was wrong. After walking three blocks, I felt dizzy. After seven blocks, my heart was pounding. After 10 blocks, I thought I was a goner.
That experience led me to spend the next three years researching and reporting a book about the dangers of extreme heat and how rising temperatures
are reshaping our world. I talked to doctors about how when the core temperature of our bodies rises too high, the proteins in our cells begin to
unravel. I sailed to Antarctica to see how changes in ocean temperature accelerate the melting of glaciers, causing seas to rise and flooding coastal
cities around the world. I talked to people in the slums of India and in oven-like apartments in Arizona and in stifling hot garrets in Paris. I
trapped mosquitoes in Houston and learned about how the spread of dengue fever and malaria is altered by hotter temperatures. I talked to engineers
about how heat bends railroad tracks and weakens bridges. In short, I thought I had a pretty good idea about the impacts of extreme heat in our world.
And then, in mid-June, a few weeks before publication of my book, a heat dome settled over the entire Southwest as well as Mexico, breaking
temperature records and turning asphalt to mush. I had recently moved to Austin, Texas. Yes, Texas is a hot place. But this was different. We’re
talking about a heat index — the combination of temperature and humidity — as high as 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
Events disturbingly similar to what I had reported on in other places several years earlier were playing out in real time around me, like hikers dying
of heatstroke and thousands of dead fish washing up on Gulf Coast beaches (hotter water contains less oxygen, making it difficult for fish to
breathe). The red-faced desperation on the faces of homeless people living beneath an overpass near me was spookily evocative of the red-faced
desperation I’d seen on the faces of people in India and Pakistan.
You can argue that Texas has done this to itself. The planet is getting hotter because of the burning of fossil fuels. This is a simple truth, as
clear as the moon in the night sky. No state has profited more from fossil fuels than Texas. Revenues from oil and gas production have long been
central to the Texas economy and are at least partly responsible for the more than $32 billion projected surplus in the state’s 2024-25 budget. And
Texas is also responsible for emitting more than 600 million metric tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere each year, more than twice as much as
any other state.
The heat dome made visible the barbarity of the state’s political leadership. More workers die in Texas from high temperatures than anywhere else in
the country. Nevertheless, on the very day when it was so hot that I didn’t want to walk outside to check the mail until after dark, Gov. Greg
Abbott gave final approval to a law that will eliminate local ordinances requiring water breaks for construction workers. Despite the state’s
massive budget surplus, many Texas prisons remain without air-conditioning, turning cells into torture chambers on hot days.
If you are lucky enough and well-off enough, perhaps there is no sense that a life-threatening force has invaded your world. This past week, records
were set or tied on four consecutive days as the hottest days ever recorded on Earth. On Monday, I happened to be sitting in an air-conditioned cafe
in Austin. Around me, people drank iced coffees and bottled water, seemingly unconcerned as the heat outside beat down mercilessly. In my
neighborhood, where a couple tore down a modest house, cut down big shady trees and erected a McMansion with a black roof that sucks up heat, massive
compressors for the air-conditioning hang off the side of the house like tactical weapons in the climate war.
In some ways, Mr. Abbott’s callousness is not surprising. Many Texans see extreme heat as a feeble foe. At the height of the Texas heat wave, the
official Twitter account for a Texas university football team featured a video of a fully suited player running sprints while dragging a heavy chain.
“Working in that Texas heat,” the tweet boasted, followed by a fire emoji. Like risking your life in the heat makes you a real cowboy.
Not far from my house is a gym called “HEAT Bootcamp” (the gym’s marketing pitch: “Join the heat wave”). Here, enduring heat is a sign of
inner strength (a throwback to medieval times, perhaps, when heat was linked to masculinity through what the philosopher Thomas Aquinas called “the
elemental heat of the semen”).
Fortunately, despite high demand for electricity from everyone cranking their A.C., the Texas grid has held steady, largely because of the enormous
number of solar panels that have come online in Texas in recent years. People have flocked to Austin’s green spaces, especially the spring-fed
Barton Springs pool, proving the value of cool public spaces. At the Blanton Museum of Art in Austin (where my wife is the director) a hot, lifeless
courtyard has been transformed into a shady, welcoming patio by the installation of a dozen elegant 40-foot-high structures in the shape of flower
petals — proof, if such proof is needed, that a cool city can be a beautiful city.
Among climate activists and others concerned about the future of the planet, there is a lot of talk now about the need for inspiring stories and
hopeful solutions. I agree. We are not doomed. In fact, I think the climate crisis is, above all else, an opportunity to change how we think about our
relationship with nature and build a happier, healthier, more just world.
But living under the Texas heat dome has reinforced my view that we have to be cleareyed about the scope and scale of what we are facing. The extreme
heat that is cooking many parts of the world this summer is not a freakish event — it is another step into our burning future. The wildfires in
Canada, the orange Blade Runner skies on the East Coast, the hot ocean, the rapidly melting glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica and the Himalayas,
the high price of food, the spread of vector-borne diseases in unexpected places — it is all connected, and it is all driven by rising heat.
We need to start seeing hot days as more than an invitation to go to the beach or hang out at the lake. Extreme heat is the engine of planetary chaos.
We ignore it at our peril. Because if there is one thing we should understand about the risks of extreme heat, it is this: All living things, from
humans to hummingbirds, share one simple fate. If the temperature they’re used to — what scientists sometimes call their Goldilocks Zone — rises
too far, too fast, they die.
[Edited on 7-8-2023 by mtgoat666] |
Goatly-----------I and my Family lived in El Centro,CA for 13 years, and then Redding, CA for the past 32 years. We often get, and got, summer temps
well above 110 in Summer in both places for many months each year. Hot, yes, but I never remember hearing that people were dying strictly due to the
heat, and we were often "out in the heat" so maybe a bit of exaggeration in your posting here???
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | In Texas, Dead Fish and Red-Faced Desperation Are Signs of Things to Come
NYT, 7-8-23 By Jeff Goodell Mr. Goodell is the author of the forthcoming book, “The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched
Planet.”
In 2019, I happened to be visiting Phoenix on a 115-degree day. I had a meeting one afternoon about 10 blocks from the hotel where I was staying
downtown. I gamely thought I’d brave the heat and walk to it. How bad could the heat really be? I grew up in California, not the Arctic. I thought I
knew heat. I was wrong. After walking three blocks, I felt dizzy. After seven blocks, my heart was pounding. After 10 blocks, I thought I was a goner.
That experience led me to spend the next three years researching and reporting a book about the dangers of extreme heat and how rising temperatures
are reshaping our world. I talked to doctors about how when the core temperature of our bodies rises too high, the proteins in our cells begin to
unravel. I sailed to Antarctica to see how changes in ocean temperature accelerate the melting of glaciers, causing seas to rise and flooding coastal
cities around the world. I talked to people in the slums of India and in oven-like apartments in Arizona and in stifling hot garrets in Paris. I
trapped mosquitoes in Houston and learned about how the spread of dengue fever and malaria is altered by hotter temperatures. I talked to engineers
about how heat bends railroad tracks and weakens bridges. In short, I thought I had a pretty good idea about the impacts of extreme heat in our world.
And then, in mid-June, a few weeks before publication of my book, a heat dome settled over the entire Southwest as well as Mexico, breaking
temperature records and turning asphalt to mush. I had recently moved to Austin, Texas. Yes, Texas is a hot place. But this was different. We’re
talking about a heat index — the combination of temperature and humidity — as high as 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
Events disturbingly similar to what I had reported on in other places several years earlier were playing out in real time around me, like hikers dying
of heatstroke and thousands of dead fish washing up on Gulf Coast beaches (hotter water contains less oxygen, making it difficult for fish to
breathe). The red-faced desperation on the faces of homeless people living beneath an overpass near me was spookily evocative of the red-faced
desperation I’d seen on the faces of people in India and Pakistan.
You can argue that Texas has done this to itself. The planet is getting hotter because of the burning of fossil fuels. This is a simple truth, as
clear as the moon in the night sky. No state has profited more from fossil fuels than Texas. Revenues from oil and gas production have long been
central to the Texas economy and are at least partly responsible for the more than $32 billion projected surplus in the state’s 2024-25 budget. And
Texas is also responsible for emitting more than 600 million metric tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere each year, more than twice as much as
any other state.
The heat dome made visible the barbarity of the state’s political leadership. More workers die in Texas from high temperatures than anywhere else in
the country. Nevertheless, on the very day when it was so hot that I didn’t want to walk outside to check the mail until after dark, Gov. Greg
Abbott gave final approval to a law that will eliminate local ordinances requiring water breaks for construction workers. Despite the state’s
massive budget surplus, many Texas prisons remain without air-conditioning, turning cells into torture chambers on hot days.
If you are lucky enough and well-off enough, perhaps there is no sense that a life-threatening force has invaded your world. This past week, records
were set or tied on four consecutive days as the hottest days ever recorded on Earth. On Monday, I happened to be sitting in an air-conditioned cafe
in Austin. Around me, people drank iced coffees and bottled water, seemingly unconcerned as the heat outside beat down mercilessly. In my
neighborhood, where a couple tore down a modest house, cut down big shady trees and erected a McMansion with a black roof that sucks up heat, massive
compressors for the air-conditioning hang off the side of the house like tactical weapons in the climate war.
In some ways, Mr. Abbott’s callousness is not surprising. Many Texans see extreme heat as a feeble foe. At the height of the Texas heat wave, the
official Twitter account for a Texas university football team featured a video of a fully suited player running sprints while dragging a heavy chain.
“Working in that Texas heat,” the tweet boasted, followed by a fire emoji. Like risking your life in the heat makes you a real cowboy.
Not far from my house is a gym called “HEAT Bootcamp” (the gym’s marketing pitch: “Join the heat wave”). Here, enduring heat is a sign of
inner strength (a throwback to medieval times, perhaps, when heat was linked to masculinity through what the philosopher Thomas Aquinas called “the
elemental heat of the semen”).
Fortunately, despite high demand for electricity from everyone cranking their A.C., the Texas grid has held steady, largely because of the enormous
number of solar panels that have come online in Texas in recent years. People have flocked to Austin’s green spaces, especially the spring-fed
Barton Springs pool, proving the value of cool public spaces. At the Blanton Museum of Art in Austin (where my wife is the director) a hot, lifeless
courtyard has been transformed into a shady, welcoming patio by the installation of a dozen elegant 40-foot-high structures in the shape of flower
petals — proof, if such proof is needed, that a cool city can be a beautiful city.
Among climate activists and others concerned about the future of the planet, there is a lot of talk now about the need for inspiring stories and
hopeful solutions. I agree. We are not doomed. In fact, I think the climate crisis is, above all else, an opportunity to change how we think about our
relationship with nature and build a happier, healthier, more just world.
But living under the Texas heat dome has reinforced my view that we have to be cleareyed about the scope and scale of what we are facing. The extreme
heat that is cooking many parts of the world this summer is not a freakish event — it is another step into our burning future. The wildfires in
Canada, the orange Blade Runner skies on the East Coast, the hot ocean, the rapidly melting glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica and the Himalayas,
the high price of food, the spread of vector-borne diseases in unexpected places — it is all connected, and it is all driven by rising heat.
We need to start seeing hot days as more than an invitation to go to the beach or hang out at the lake. Extreme heat is the engine of planetary chaos.
We ignore it at our peril. Because if there is one thing we should understand about the risks of extreme heat, it is this: All living things, from
humans to hummingbirds, share one simple fate. If the temperature they’re used to — what scientists sometimes call their Goldilocks Zone — rises
too far, too fast, they die.
[Edited on 7-8-2023 by mtgoat666] |
Goatly-----------I and my Family lived in El Centro,CA for 13 years, and then Redding, CA for the past 32 years. We often get, and got, summer temps
well above 110 in Summer in both places for many months each year. Hot, yes, but I never remember hearing that people were dying strictly due to the
heat, and we were often "out in the heat" so maybe a bit of exaggeration in your posting here???
Barry A.
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I have run crews in mojave in summer, heat exhaustion/heat stroke is real.
120 or 125 kills people that are unhealthy or unprepared
[Edited on 7-13-2023 by mtgoat666]
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90 degree water in Florida right now in the middle of July….could the “perfect Storm” be coming! 😟
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
Goatly-----------I and my Family lived in El Centro,CA for 13 years, and then Redding, CA for the past 32 years. We often get, and got, summer temps
well above 110 in Summer in both places for many months each year. Hot, yes, but I never remember hearing that people were dying strictly due to the
heat, and we were often "out in the heat" so maybe a bit of exaggeration in your posting here???
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Yet another person who thinks their personal anecdotal experience is somehow relevant to climate and medical science.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
Goatly-----------I and my Family lived in El Centro,CA for 13 years, and then Redding, CA for the past 32 years. We often get, and got, summer temps
well above 110 in Summer in both places for many months each year. Hot, yes, but I never remember hearing that people were dying strictly due to the
heat, and we were often "out in the heat" so maybe a bit of exaggeration in your posting here???
Barry A.
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LOL------------Well, personal experience IS my main point of reference, I admit. However, I did have a minor in Meteorology and Climatology from San
Diego State, way back when.
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Goat----------Yes indeed, you are right. "120 to 125" are Death Valley type temps. in the extreme and are very dangerous. As a Ranger I worked
outside most of my adult life and was very careful.
Barry
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