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mtgoat666
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The sw usa heat wave is here. Hot enough for you?
I see phoenix will be 117 high, and low of 96.
Sounds horrible
[Edited on 7-15-2023 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
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RFClark
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goat,
Sorry, the lows in Phoenix this morning were in the low 80’s and even a few high 70’s I looked at 6:00.
SD had lows in the low 60’s
Imperial valley in the low 80’s
Don’t believe everything you see on the web!
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | goat,
Sorry, the lows in Phoenix this morning were in the low 80’s and even a few high 70’s I looked at 6:00.
SD had lows in the low 60’s
Imperial valley in the low 80’s
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Clarkie:
Nws forecast discussion today…
The high temperature in Phoenix on Friday topped out at 116 degrees,
tying the record for the date set back in 2003. Going through this
weekend, temperature records will continue to be in jeopardy. The
latest NBM shows today being the hottest day this weekend with a
forecast high of 118 degrees and even a ~20% chance of 120 degrees.
Additionally, low temperatures are forecast to only fall into the
low to mid 90s in Phoenix each morning, providing little relief from
the heat. Phoenix has already seen 5 consecutive days with lows at
or above 90 degrees. The all-time record for Phoenix is 7 days, so
we are likely to break the record Monday. The number of consecutive
days at or above 110 degrees with this heat wave is also likely to
break the record of 18 days set back in 1974 next Tuesday.
Temperatures of this magnitude is not your "typical desert heat" but
rather very dangerous heat that should be treated seriously. Extreme
HeatRisk will increase across the lower deserts today and persist
into next week, posing a risk to everyone for the potential of
seeing heat-related health impacts. The strong ridge of high
pressure will shift further eastward toward the Arizona/New Mexico
border, but this will do little to provide relief from the heat wave
with excessive heat persisting. NBM keeps daytime highs across the
lower deserts near or above 115 degrees for most locations through
the first part of next week. An Excessive Heat Warning remains in
effect for the entire area through the weekend with most areas
remaining under the warning through Wednesday.
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | The sw usa heat wave is here. Hot enough for you?
I see phoenix will be 117 high, and low of 96.
Sounds horrible
[Edited on 7-15-2023 by mtgoat666] |
Where were you when Vegas went a record 291 days without hitting 100?
When we have bizzards in Ohio this winter are you gonna say the glaciers are coming for us?
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It's rather amusing seeing you guys tie yourself in knots with irrelevant stuff, trying to deny what is happening. I really am bamboozled at what you
get out if it.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | It's rather amusing seeing you guys tie yourself in knots with irrelevant stuff, trying to deny what is happening. I really am bamboozled at what you
get out if it. |
Nothing we do is going to impact CC. The only thing that will happen is ppl will give up their freedoms and $'s and other ppl will get rich and fly
around on private jets to their 10 houses.
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S,
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/07/how-fast-are-the-...
Try reading all of this! There are problems with the sea level rise forecasts. They are either too high or too low. Depending on the unknowable.
When the rich private jet flying climate people sell their jets, gas hog SUVs and beach front estates it will give some credibility to what they are
saying.
Note that to date they have not done so!
Exclimation points - 2
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#Climate Hypocrisy
'Teresa Ribera, the Spanish Minister for Ecological Transition, pulled up to a July 10th Valladolid “informal ministerial meeting” climate summit
in the most ecologically friendly way possible: On a bicycle.
Except, her woman-powered mode of transportation was only for the last 100 meters of her journey. The first 180 miles were traveled car.
The entire stunt feels like something out of an episode of Veep.
"They could just Skype," another commenter pointed out. "But then how would the back door deals happen?"'
Some even say she flew a private jet there. Watch the video of the ridiculous woman riding a bike the last 100 meters as multiple gas powered cars
guide her. These are the ridiculous ppl so many are following?
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | It's rather amusing seeing you guys tie yourself in knots with irrelevant stuff, trying to deny what is happening. I really am bamboozled at what you
get out if it. |
Nothing we do is going to impact CC. The only thing that will happen is ppl will give up their freedoms and $'s and other ppl will get rich and fly
around on private jets to their 10 houses.
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Blah blah blah, reoeating yourself endlessly.
That isn't what I was talking about. I was referring you and your fellow deniers posting regional temperatures, as if that is in any way relevant to
the fact that global temperature averages are soaring and unprecedented in recorded history in many places.
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RFClark
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S,
The really great thing about those “global temperatures” is there’s no global thermometer you can view. It’s necessary to take the word of
people who can’t fly commercial air flights, travel in big convoys of SUVs, have multiple homes with utility bills the size of the budgets of 3rd
world countries and can’t find out who left a bag of Coke on a table in the White House!
They of course blame those around them for living too “high on the hog” and causing the problem!
You believe these people because they are the “authorities” LOL!
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surabi
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Say what, RFClark? So you think that the temperatures that are being reported around the world are made up nonsense by people with an agenda? Who are
telling you the recorded temperature in Delhi or Johannesburg today is 20 degrees hotter than it actually is?
Do you not think that all countries have their own meteorologists and recording equipment? How's life down in your rabbit hole?
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RFClark
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S,
But those are just “regional temperatures” as well. Why do they count more then the regional temperatures we post and you dismiss?
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Solar maximum/minimum (Sun Spots)
Right now, we are in a period of Solar Maximum. Increased sunspot activity and solar flares have a slight effect on the surface temperature on Earth.
It is not the cause of global warming but it is a contributing factor.
Ancient astronomers were aware of sunspots, and actually tracked their appearance and duration. An extended period of minimal activity in the late
16th and early 17th century, called "The Maunder Minimum", occurred simultaneously with the "little ice age"
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Right now, we are in a period of Solar Maximum. Increased sunspot activity and solar flares have a slight effect on the surface temperature on Earth.
It is not the cause of global warming but it is a contributing factor.
Ancient astronomers were aware of sunspots, and actually tracked their appearance and duration. An extended period of minimal activity in the late
16th and early 17th century, called "The Maunder Minimum", occurred simultaneously with the "little ice age" |
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RFClark
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S,
I understand it and since the earth is more than 70% water or ice without many weather stations the temperature must be measured from space.
This means that we have only about 30 years of data for most of the world. Further from Space only the surface temperature can be measured so we
don’t in fact have much data on the sub-surface temperature profile for the oceans or areas under ice, snow, or clouds.
Since you dislike explanations (from men) with which you disagree I will list some points you should consider.
1) Do you know how the temperatures taken by the satellites which are the average (pixel size) of a few sq Km are weighted against the land
temperatures which are point measurements.
2) Do you know if the land readings are used as single points or the average of some number of points?
3) Do you know what adjustments if any, are applied to the sea or land readings.
4) Do you know if adjustments are made for areas under snow, ice, or clouds?
5) Do you even look at the actual temperatures for areas forecast to have high temps? Hint: Phoenix was in the low 80s this AM not 96 as stated by the
goat.
Get back to me when you know the answers!
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So, the sun pours its energy out towards the earth. The position of the earth relative to the sun, the tilt of the axis, and its rotation are what
governs the temperature on the planet. A little closer, and the water would all be boiled away, a little farther, and it would be frozen. Imagine if
the earth had a dark side like the moon, with one side frozen solid and one side boiling hot.
And yet somehow the planet is right in the sweet spot, spinning at just the right rate and tilted at just the right angle so that there is ice at the
poles and liquid water in the oceans, a condition that has persisted for 500 million years; long enough for primitive fossilized fish to be found at
elevations of 8,000 feet in Canada due to tectonic uplift of marine sediments. https://theconversation.com/the-oldest-fish-in-the-world-liv...
The prevailing internet-fueled group think is that humans have burned so much coal and oil in the last wo hundred years that it is altering the
temperature of the planet and melting the ice at the poles. It is hard to believe that 200 years of human activity would upset an equilibrium that has
lasted for 500 million years. Imagine the forest fires and asteroid impacts that must have taken place over that time span. And yet all that time
the earth had liquid water at the equator and ice at the poles. Could we really have ruined it in just two centuries?
Perhaps. What if coal and oil were a sort of regulating mechanism that stored the energy of the sun when too much of it was heating up the planet.
Then we dug it up and pumped it out and burned it and threw the whole system out of whack. Or maybe it is all just a bunch of bs, just a new
manifestation of the age-old battle between the jocks who drove Camaros and dated the cheerleaders and the nerds who rode ten speeds and squeezed
pimples.
Either way, the persistence of liquid water in the oceans of earth over such a long period of time is truly a gift, one might say, from God. It
enabled a bunch of random amino acids to combine into self-replicating helical coils that gave rise to life on earth. Imagine how long it took for
that random event to happen, creating self-sustaining life from a stew of chemicals. Perhaps it happened only once in the history of the planet, a
once in three billion years event, which is why all living things have the same DNA structure in every cell, composed of the same four nucleic acids.
And here we are.
OK back to fish tacos.
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"And yet all that time the earth had liquid water at the equator and ice at the poles. Could we really have ruined it in just two centuries?"
Yes.
Destroying things takes a fraction of the time it takes to build them. The amount of time needed to create something is unrelated to the time it takes
to destroy it.
It might take 2 years to build a house that it takes 2 minutes for a hurricane to demolish.
An artist could spend 4 years painting murals on the walls of a building that a couple of graffiti taggers could ruin in a few minutes with a few cans
of spray paint.
A human can live 50 years in great health, contract some incurable disease or infection that doesn't respond to any treatment, and suddenly be dead
within a few days.
A baby can develop for 9 months in the womb, be perfectly formed and healthy, and emerge stillborn because the umbilical cord got wrapped around its
neck in the birth canal during labor.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | "And yet all that time the earth had liquid water at the equator and ice at the poles. Could we really have ruined it in just two centuries?"
Yes.
Destroying things takes a fraction of the time it takes to build them. It might take 2 years to build a house that it takes 2 minutes for a hurricane
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Please explain this.
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If you only watch one video on CC, this is the one you need to watch.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi | "And yet all that time the earth had liquid water at the equator and ice at the poles. Could we really have ruined it in just two centuries?"
Yes.
Destroying things takes a fraction of the time it takes to build them. It might take 2 years to build a house that it takes 2 minutes for a hurricane
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Please explain this.
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Your response does not relate to my post. As usual, you deflect to something else.
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