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[*] posted on 7-15-2023 at 07:18 PM


I encourage all you deniers to move to FL, TX and AZ. You and your progeny deserve what you get, you best hope your denials are true, because if they are not then your progeny will be living in chithole states, and CA, OR and WA wont let you come back :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hey, will natural selection favor short people or tall people in the coming inferno chitstorm? White people or black?

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[*] posted on 7-15-2023 at 09:21 PM


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So when are you going to move where you won’t have anything to criticize and complain about?

goat,

No, “natural selection will favor” those who choose to have children and do their best to try and raise them to deal with what life throws at them.

You did notice the slight (30+%) increase in felonies since CA went to the same “0” cash bail system as NY or did you miss that?

Fastest growing state is FL. SFO lost 7.1% of its population in a single year. I guess no one likes poop on the sidewalks.

Speaking of poop on the sidewalks how’s SD doing?

Certainly don't see that in BC or BCS.

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[*] posted on 7-15-2023 at 09:47 PM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
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So when are you going to move where you won’t have anything to criticize and complain about?


Do you hear me complain about living in Mexico? Or constantly criticize things in Mexico? There's challenges, to be sure, and things that could be improved, but I wouldn't live somewhere the positive didn't outweigh the negative, and when it did in the past, I moved on.
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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 08:47 AM


S,

The move reference was related to the choice of places you choose to troll!

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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 09:54 AM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  

Fastest growing state is FL. SFO lost 7.1% of its population in a single year. I guess no one likes poop on the sidewalks.

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Florida pop growth does not mean it is a desirable place to live. Congo has super high pop growth, doesnt make it a place i want to live. I have been to florida, it is very, very low on my list of desirable places to live… so low on the list, it fell off the list and will never be considered.

Spent time in san fran and seattle in past month. Both cities got homeless problems, but otherwise are fantastic cities. These cities need to build more slums (aka affordable housing) to accommodate the poor, drug addicts and mentally ill abandoned by GOP’s dismantling of the social safety net…

P.s. san fran pop drop was mostly due to housing prices, and covid work from home provisions. The housing prices remain higher in san fran than florida, because florida is a miserable place to live and san fran is great :bounce:


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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 11:23 AM


goat,

Poop not pop. As in the Homeless drug users poop on the sidewalks in SFO, LAX, OC, SD and others. Can you say Typhoid, TB, COVID, Hepatitis and much more.

Aside from that Mrs, Lincoln how was the play comes to mind re. SFO & Seatac.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2023 at 04:03 PM


Scientist measure temperatures going back 8,000 years using ice cores.






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[*] posted on 7-17-2023 at 05:47 PM


That was an interesting video. If I followed the procedure correctly, they are measuring a variation of temperature in the ice pack going back ten thousand years!

Even if they are able to date the formation of the layers of ice (carbon dating?) I find it a bit incredible that the existing temperature remains the same as when the ice was formed.

Ice has the ability to absorb infra-red radiation from an object that is warmer than it, while radiating to an object that is colder. The bottom of the ice pack would be absorbing heat from the earths core, while the surface could be radiating it to the blackness of space.

Cloud cover, or lack of it, affects the nature of ice crystals within a snow pack, and probably an ice sheet, but I have never studied the subject further than what might contribute to an avalanche hazard.




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[*] posted on 7-17-2023 at 06:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
That was an interesting video. If I followed the procedure correctly, they are measuring a variation of temperature in the ice pack going back ten thousand years!

Even if they are able to date the formation of the layers of ice (carbon dating?) I find it a bit incredible that the existing temperature remains the same as when the ice was formed.

Ice has the ability to absorb infra-red radiation from an object that is warmer than it, while radiating to an object that is colder. The bottom of the ice pack would be absorbing heat from the earths core, while the surface could be radiating it to the blackness of space.

Cloud cover, or lack of it, affects the nature of ice crystals within a snow pack, and probably an ice sheet, but I have never studied the subject further than what might contribute to an avalanche hazard.


Three important questions - even if you accept that the climate is changing and temperatures are increasing.

1. Increasing compared to what? We have a very small range of actual recorded temp data relative to the history of the Earth. What if we started recording when we were in a low cycle as that video suggests.

2. Is the increase due to man? This is very much unsettled.

3. Can man do anything to reverse C02 expansion? To me this is the most settled of all the questions. This is absolutely not going to happen. The best bet of it happening would be to use nuclear energy. Until I hear a government entity push nuclear technology (or the like), I can't believe they are serious about lowering C02 emissions.

Final conclusion, climate change is used to capture money and power.

Recommendations: focus on improving air quality. Use EV's in dense cities. Don't try to push EV's onto everyone. Let the technology evolve and use it where it makes sense. Use solar for home use. Do not build big wind or solar farms. These are very bad for the environment. Invest in nuclear.

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[*] posted on 7-17-2023 at 07:42 PM


While it's all very interesting to know about what temperatures in times in the far distant past were, it's kind of beside the point. The question now is whether the rapidly changing climate will continue to support life as we know it.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2023 at 08:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

These cities need to build more slums (aka affordable housing) to accommodate the poor, drug addicts and mentally ill


Twenty or thirty years ago or more, I wondered why cities didn't redevelop the slummy areas. Well, they have; it's called gentrification. The old, dilapidated, cheap rent buildings have been torn down and replaced with condos for the upwardly mobile. Landowners, developers, and others in the real estate business have made a bundle. Plus the cities are collecting more in property taxes.

The problem is now poor people don't have any place to live except the street—unintended consequences of redevelopment. Every city needs "the slums", "the other side of the tracks". But those areas are disappearing, or are gone.

It's a tough problem to solve.

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[*] posted on 7-18-2023 at 09:03 AM


AK and SF kind of hit a homer with those responses



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[*] posted on 7-18-2023 at 09:27 AM


During the first half of the 20th century, East Coast cities like New York, Philadelphia, Boston, etc., tore down the 19th-century tenements and built high-rise "projects". The "projects" are bad places to live, noted for high crime rates, but they put a roof over poor people's heads.



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SFandH bringing good comments.





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[*] posted on 7-18-2023 at 10:02 AM


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PB,

Belief in what seems “highly improbable” (at the time) You mean like continents moving or heaver than air things flying or a particle being in two places at the same time?

The established scientific community had “faith” that all of those things were impossible before they changed their minds,


Such a compelling argument. I've just become a theiest.
Fear of one's death make religion an easy sell. Heck fear in general is a great sales tool. Burning in hell for all eternity is very scary.

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[*] posted on 7-18-2023 at 12:27 PM


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Where were you when Vegas went a record 291 days without hitting 100?




"Airline passengers pass out awaiting takeoff in triple-digit temps in Las Vegas"

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[*] posted on 7-20-2023 at 03:52 PM


Long-lost Greenland ice core suggests potential for disastrous sea level rise

(CNN ) A recently discovered ice core taken from beneath Greenland’s ice sheet decades ago has revealed that a large part of the country was ice-free around 400,000 years ago, when temperatures were similar to those the world is approaching now, according to a new report – an alarming finding that could have disastrous implications for sea level rise.

The study overturns previous assumptions that most of Greenland’s ice sheet has been frozen for millions of years, the authors said. Instead, moderate, natural warming led to large-scale melting and sea level rise of more than 1.4 meters (4.6 feet), according to the report published Thursday in the journal Science.

“When you look at what nature did in the past, as geoscientists, that’s our best clue to the future,” said Paul Bierman, a scientist at the University of Vermont and a lead author of the study. Bierman further explained that "looking at vacation snapshots of palm trees to document sea level and paleoclimate is lunacy."

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[*] posted on 7-20-2023 at 04:01 PM


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“When you look at what nature did in the past, as geoscientists, that’s our best clue to the future,” said Paul Bierman, a scientist at the University of Vermont and a lead author of the study. Bierman further explained that "looking at vacation snapshots of palm trees to document sea level and paleoclimate is lunacy."


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[*] posted on 7-20-2023 at 04:35 PM


Addicted to electricity…

Would an occasional blackout help solve climate change?
https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2023-07-20/wo...


Is anywhere truly safe from climate change?
I Thought My State Was Safe From Climate Change
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/07/climate-...

Climate Collapse Could Happen Fast
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/07/climate-...

She’s on a Mission From God: Suing Big Oil for Climate Damages
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/19/climate/climate-lawsuit-p...

Al Gore on Extreme Heat and the Fight Against Fossil Fuels
“Every night on the TV news is like taking a nature hike through the Book of Revelation,” Gore said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/18/climate/al-gore-on-extrem...



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[*] posted on 7-20-2023 at 07:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


“When you look at what nature did in the past, as geoscientists, that’s our best clue to the future,” said Paul Bierman, a scientist at the University of Vermont and a lead author of the study. Bierman further explained that "looking at vacation snapshots of palm trees to document sea level and paleoclimate is lunacy."


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This quote of "Bierman" comments, to me, represents such insensitivity and lack of thought that I really wish I had not seen it. It is so depressing!!! that people really think this way.

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